USA: illegal immigrants can be 'detained indefinitely'
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Friday April 25, 2003 17:16
by america, once free
US Atty Gen Ashcroft has set out to start the process of more camps for illegal immigrants to be 'detained indefinitely' - is it fascism yet? (i don't throw this word around lightly)
More Illegal Immigrants Can Be Held
Ashcroft's Ruling Cites National Security Issues
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 25, 2003; Page A06
Broad categories of foreigners who arrive in this country illegally can be detained indefinitely without consideration of their individual circumstances if immigration officials say their release would endanger national security, according to a ruling by Attorney General John D. Ashcroft.
Ashcroft released the far-reaching decision yesterday in denying bond to an 18-year-old Haitian, David Joseph, who scrambled ashore at Key Biscayne, Fla., on Oct. 29 with more than 200 other refugees. Immigration judges had approved the release of about 100 of them.
The order means that groups of asylum seekers and other aliens -- in this instance Haitians -- can be locked up without hearings and without recourse to release on bond. Ashcroft rejected claims that denying them bail on broad national security grounds would violate their due process rights. He said it was not clear they had any such rights.
Until now, the government has jailed individuals or groups seeking asylum for long periods, but has not asserted the right to indefinitely detain whole classes of illegal immigrants as security risks.
oh, it just gets worse.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A34890-2003Apr24?language=printer
Comments (11 of 11)
Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11I feel your pain, NOT!
Relax. I know change is scary and people don't like it but these people know what they're doing. Just relax, stop worrying, you'll ruin your health.
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Please, don't just use indymedia.ie in this way. If it's interesting enough then write a summary and provide the link. If you can't be bothered to do that then don't force the original and irish-specific material down the newswire.
R Isible's comments are unoriginal.
this is good info - there were comments written above, so go back to being the arm-chair censor that wish to be
People here speak as if the GOP had just sprung from nowhere in the last few years and taken over the country. Abe Lincoln was a Republican. The GOP has a fine democratic tradition. The constant use of therms like fascism is an attmept to make mud stick. A brainwashing technique.
YAWN!! the USA has been running a proper immigration control system since the last 150 years.So they have tightend up abit more.Pity they wouldnt go back to the old system where these catogories of people were automatically deported. Anarchists,drug users,communists,prostitutes,and carriers of infectious diseases.[Do check out Ellis island somtime].If the USA had IRELANDS system in place where anyone can show up ,claim persecution in their own land,[of what?],and get free handouts of food,[and bitch&moan about that,as happened in the Knocklisheen camp in Limerick]accomadation,and clothing.Stroll about the place with no paperwork and apply for a job,a car,and insurance[YOU DO require apermenant address for those things].IT would have ceased to exist about a hundred years ago.
Dont mistrue this post as racist[no doubt some will].But this is a FACT of Irish life these days.
HOW are supposed poor[IE no money] documentless[IE no passport,drivers lic,Soc sec,etc] refugees living on Irish state handouts[poor that they are] buying,taxing&insureing cars??Even clapped out 90 regs? This is somthing that does not happen in the US if you wash up on its beaches.And proper order too! Get your paperwork in order and you can live and work over there no problem.And dont blather on about the illegal Irish over there.They have already got a nickname with the US Immigration."Narrowback"The US was smart enough to set up the checkpoint in Shannon to prevent the embarrasment of Irish people being dumped of the planes in orange jumpsuits and manacles.
The Reason Why
by George McGovern
http://mail.dublin.ie/modules/refer.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2Fdoc.mhtml%3Fi%3D20030421%26s%3Dmcgovern
Thanks to the most crudely partisan decision in the history of the Supreme Court, the nation has been given a President of painfully limited wisdom and compassion and lacking any sense of the nation's true greatness. Appearing to enjoy his role as Commander in Chief of the armed forces above all other functions of his office, and unchecked by a seemingly timid Congress, a compliant Supreme Court, a largely subservient press and a corrupt corporate plutocracy, George
W. Bush has set the nation on a course for one-man rule.
Rememeber-they are here illegally
and therefore have no rights?
That is correct-they are not US citizens. If one entered Ireland illegally, would they get all kinds of public assistance from the government?
The Government of the Republic of Ireland is responsible for the well-being of every human being on its territory, whether they enter legally or illegally. We have signed up to international human rights treaties, you know.
You have a nasty upcoming racisim problem.because it looks like you are more concerned with any chancer and other floatsam that washes up here,rather than with the domestic underprivilidged.
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