T&G Broad left deliver massive blow to New Labour

by hunter Sat May 31, 2003 17:53

now make the break with labour.

by SOBER BROAD LEFT MEMBER Sat May 31, 2003 17:58

It’s our Union not are

Happy days………………….
Good-bye and good riddance Bill Morris
Black Bastard “N.Ireland Black Bastard not a racists one”

by pat c Sat May 31, 2003 18:11

It is important to explain the term Black Bastard. In an Irish context this refers to a man (yes, exclusively male) who is a member of the Black Preceptory of the Orange Order. This is an elitist section of the Orange Order and its members would be drawn mainly from the Upper Middle Class and the Ruling Class.

So,it is in no way racist. Not even sectarian really, as its a class based insult.

However,to prevent misunderstanding, it would be best if the term Black Orange Bastard were used.

by pat c Sat May 31, 2003 18:14

However, while Bill would have an Upper Middle Class income, there is no evidence to suggest he is or ever was a member of the Black Preceptory. In these circumstances it is hardly correct to refer to him in the way "sober" did.

by hunter Sat May 31, 2003 18:20

my ma often refers to George Hamilton (the footie commentator) as a black bastard. Do we have any evidence of this?

by Ok Sat May 31, 2003 18:47

Great result for T&G.

The black bastard comment is racist.

by james Sat May 31, 2003 19:07

I consider tony blair and bush to be stupid white bastards (with apologies to M. Moore) does that mean Im racist (Im white skinned btw)? I consider Bush's house slave colin powell to be a bastard too but Im not allowed to reference his skin colour but its ok to mention Bush and his poodles. Hmmm tooo PC I think.
Anyway, to hell with racisim.

by ok Sat May 31, 2003 20:33

The black bastard comment is just racist. Stop trying to cover it up with stupid arguments.

by I Sat May 31, 2003 22:10

Don't think so. pat c defines it. James philosophises. enlighthened if you ask me. at least not petantic. btw i'm black.

by wise up Sun Jun 01, 2003 18:09

Use of the term Black bastard when refering to bill morris is clearly racist.
In the northern context the term is used to mean a protestant and is equaly bigoted.
These atttempts to justify its use are silly and are an insult to the excellent work of the left in the T&G who fought so hard in the election.

by uncle tom Tue Jun 03, 2003 13:21

they used to call them 'house niggers' a term the likes of Powell hates.