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Two more convicted of public order offences from Mayday 2004; STILL no anarchist support

category dublin | eu | opinion/analysis author Monday January 10, 2005 12:52author by R Report this post to the editors

Mayday 2004 fallout.

The fallout from Mayday 2004 continues - not that you would know from reading this site, or from the Dublin Grassroots Network site either (which hasnt been updated in six months), the group responsible for organising the protests for their "No Borders Weekend". Two more people were convicted last week in the Dublin Circuit Court of public order offences on the Navan Road on May 1st, and were fined 500 euro each by the judge. Nobody from the Dublin anarchist community was present in court to offer these two people financial or just simple support.

The Gardai have been given free reign to re-interpret what happened on the Navan Road. Their testimonies in court, containing over-exaggerations, and their telling of the story with many mainstream media hype references, go unchallenged on the stand. Nobody from the anarchist groups have come forward to volunteer as witnesses for defence solicitors to counter the garda statements.

Talking casually to members of the anarchist community about these convictions, you get a similar attitude to when asked about the 2 Wombles arrested (a continuing source of antipathy between the UK and Irish anarchists). "It was their own fault", "They should have left the squat when they were told", "They were far too headstrong, if they'd listened to the Dublin people then they wouldnt be in prison" - these comments about Joe and Polly are the same as the ones offered up now about the "dumb students" arrested on the Navan Road. "What the fuck were they sitting down on the road for", "If they'd stood up and linked arms with the black bloc then they wouldnt have been arrested", "They can only blame themselves".

It is hypocritcal of the anarchists in Dublin to say that it was up to people to make their own individual choice on the Navan Road whether they wanted to confront the police line or not, and then not bother to support them when they get arrested and harassed by the state. These arrests and court cases are of no concern to the anarchists now however. Rather than get involved in a difficult legal support campaign, they have now switched their time (and money) to the far easier and fashionable "autonomous centre" campaign.

There have been a couple of similar projects to this in Dublin before in the past which closed down after lack of support and interest. How do the anarchists expect this one to succeed when they dont even bother to organise legal support for the people arrested at their demos? Rather than help people they dont know, they prefer to stay within their own self-satisfied clique, burying their heads in the sand when it comes to doing hard slog work. This scenario is an exact replica of the situation arising following the Mayday 2002 "Reclaim The Streets" riot, where people were left in court with no support from RTS (which is now defunct, having dissolved mostly into DGN).

Meanwhile, longer articles have started to appear in left-wing journals and publications, looking at the Mayday 2004 weekend and the issues arising from the various internecine conflicts. The WSM have a feature in their "Red and Black Revolution" about the buildup, where "What Next?" has an article from a Marxist viewpoint critical of the Wombles (taking the ESF and their attitude in Dublin as discussion points).

DGN site: http://struggle.ws/dgn/index.php
Red & Black Revolution articles: http://www.struggle.ws/wsm/rbr/rbr8/media.html
http://www.struggle.ws/wsm/rbr/rbr8/mediagame.html
What Next? article: http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/Pages/Latest/Wombles.html
The Wombles: http://www.wombles.org.uk/

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Accuracy     Joe    Mon Jan 10, 2005 13:55 
   depends on case     krossie    Mon Jan 10, 2005 15:14 
   No relation to "R"     R. Isible    Mon Jan 10, 2005 16:27 
   information     pc    Mon Jan 10, 2005 17:34 
   wombling and rambling     Terry    Mon Jan 10, 2005 17:48 
   Solidarity & Resistance     Ciaron    Mon Jan 10, 2005 19:19 
   Poster has a point     J    Mon Jan 10, 2005 20:34 
   more info     a womble    Tue Jan 11, 2005 02:13 
   Ongoing work etc     Joe    Tue Jan 11, 2005 13:24 
 10   nother womblish person innocent / c/p coz indo requires registration     orinoco    Tue Jan 11, 2005 14:11 
 11   Solidarity Opportunity - Mother Redcaps Feb 3rd.     Ploughshares Defence    Tue Jan 11, 2005 19:49 
 12   it WAS there own fault!     two score    Tue Jan 11, 2005 22:38 
 13   Response to previous post     r    Wed Jan 12, 2005 03:57 
 14   walking not talking but...     pc    Wed Jan 12, 2005 05:09 
 15   More shit-stirring, stirs the shit.     Devil's Avocado    Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:34 
 16   re: Devil's Avocado     Barry    Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:59 
 17   IDENTITY     Barry (the real one)    Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:56 
 18   Whoops, avocado, not dog     Barry    Wed Jan 12, 2005 13:33 
 19   Going forward?     Joe    Wed Jan 12, 2005 13:35 
 20   some thoughts     soundwave    Wed Jan 12, 2005 15:12 
 21   High horse     Joe    Wed Jan 12, 2005 15:37 
 22   As I'm mentioned...     Terry    Wed Jan 12, 2005 16:51 
 23   Here's a tip...     Oh people please...    Wed Jan 12, 2005 17:01 
 24   Ahem     Chekov    Wed Jan 12, 2005 17:36 
 25   ahem... do we know each other?     soundwave    Wed Jan 12, 2005 19:14 
 26   weighing in     No 6    Wed Jan 12, 2005 21:22 
 27   Meh     Phuq Hedd    Wed Jan 12, 2005 21:50 
 28   Phuq     No 6    Wed Jan 12, 2005 23:22 
 29   Quit the decadent banter, people, we've got work to do!     Michael    Thu Jan 13, 2005 00:31 
 30   social centre project not taken out of our arse     pc    Thu Jan 13, 2005 00:34 
 31   Oh please     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 00:45 
 32   aps to be driven by insults...!     pc    Thu Jan 13, 2005 01:31 
 33   Your legalise blinds me     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 02:46 
 34   Sub juice?     Phuq Hedd    Thu Jan 13, 2005 03:06 
 35   i'll avoid puns on your name     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 03:54 
 36   To No 6 and anyone still going through the courts     Michael    Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:04 
 37   Accuracy     Joe    Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:26 
 38   Bits and pieces     Joe    Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:54 
 39   lets take these one at a time     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 13:55 
 40   no time now for a proper reply     jack white    Thu Jan 13, 2005 15:25 
 41   we haven't gone away you know     Fergal    Thu Jan 13, 2005 17:42 
 42   Response to No 6     Chekov    Thu Jan 13, 2005 17:58 
 43   For     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 20:40 
 44   Oh     No 6    Thu Jan 13, 2005 20:50 
 45   Open invitation to No.6's trial     Phuq Hedd    Thu Jan 13, 2005 22:17 
 46   No 6 a troll?     Michael    Thu Jan 13, 2005 23:31 
 47   Phu     No 6    Fri Jan 14, 2005 01:00 
 48   re: no6     Joe    Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:59 
 49   Must have been your turn     Alexander Rush    Fri Jan 14, 2005 13:37 
 50   Some recent 'defendant support' from No 6 to Mary Kelly     Puzzle Palace    Fri Jan 14, 2005 14:27 
 51   url for No. 6 comment     notanumber    Fri Jan 14, 2005 14:43 
 52   Request for short term soldiarity for PIt Stop Ploughshares     Ploughshares Defence    Fri Jan 14, 2005 14:55 
 53   re: notanumber     Joe    Fri Jan 14, 2005 15:33 
 54   Ploughshares     Davy Carlin    Fri Jan 14, 2005 16:28 
 55   Who else supported you     mike    Fri Jan 14, 2005 19:01 
 56   Did you ask for support from DGN?`     R. Isible    Fri Jan 14, 2005 23:19 
 57   lawyers against the war but only a bit...     pc    Mon Jan 17, 2005 18:11 


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