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GlobalMobileVision.com Scandal

category dublin | worker & community struggles and protests | feature author Saturday June 18, 2005 11:14author by Running With Bulls Report this post to the editors

Workers Rights Violated, Odd Background of Company That May Not Exist

Background Links & Info
You can read full details of this story on the following websites:

June 10th, 2005: GlobalMobileVision.com: Employee 'detained' and staff 'underpaid' at IT company

June 10th, 2005: Reprinted Village Magazine article about GlobalMobileVision.com: Employee 'detained' and staff 'underpaid' at IT company

June 11th, 2005: Global Mobile Vision: UPDATE Media Coverage & Contact Details for GMV

June 11th, 2005: Global Mobile Vision: Update After Ex- Employee Meeting

June 12th, 2005: Global Mobile Vision: An 'Official' Response from Alex Fitzgerald

June 12th, 2005: Global Mobile Vision: Open letter to Mr. Alex Fitzgerald/GMV management

June 14th, 2005: GlobalMobileVision.com: BBC World Confirms Business Connection with GMV

June 15th, 2005: Global Mobile Vision: Being Investigated by Irish Government

June 16th, 2005: Employees setup blogs to show they’re happy campers


More Investigating Blogging at: RunningWithBulls.com
A Dublin "technology" company with links to Christian religious groups in America has been accused of intimidating staff, of failing to pay salaries, and sexual harrassment. Its work practices are bizarre. Fire escapes are locked. Management deny the allegations.

A number of staff members were fired for various reasons. Some staff went without pay for up to 10 weeks. If the ex-staff members did receive P45s a number were duplicated, with different information. Some of these people suspect they were fired for asking two many questions.

Global Mobile Vision was incorporated in the UK in August 2004 and has had offices in Nangor road business park in Clondalkin since November 2004. The company is run by David Crownborn, his wife, Esther Crownborn, his brother, Matthew Crownborn and the latter’s wife Deborah King.

The company’s main contacts are with American Evangelist groups, staff said. It has recently being involved in contacts in the US with evangelist media organisations about collaborating in business ventures.

Up to last Wednesday, Global Mobile Vision employed between approx. 60 staff at its offices in Clondalkin, north Dublin. GMV supposedly develops software for audio and video streaming technologies for 3G phones. Yet, a search of Vodafone, O2, Hutchinson, and other 2G and 3G mobile operators turn up a big zero for any partnerships. A search for "Global Mobile Vision" and other related search terms shows up nothing. Zero. Nil. No inbound, or outbound links anywhere. Very strange for a "high technology company with valuable intellectual property". Its so "high technology" that no one know what they "do". One would be forgiven for classifying this as "snakeoil". Current and former staff said that they did almost no work at the company, they received few orders, no conrete work (other than "go search the Internet for a while"). One ex-staff member said "after one week, I eventually got a computer but it had no software. I had to use my own software - I told them I would use until I got me some official legal software but it never arrived."

This was commonplace.

John Bates, an employee who is currently suspended from work, was detained last Wednesday 8th June as he tried to leave the office. He was accused by management of stealing IP ('Intellectual Property') from the company. No evidence was given. He was surrounded by a large number of people (including staff from Crimeforce Ireland, a security guard company), and until the Gardaí were called, he was held against his will in the GMV offices. After the Gardaí advised GMV to either a) make an allegation, or b) let Mr. Bates go, Mr. Bates left the offices accompanied by Finian McGrath, TD (Independent) for North Dublin, the Gardaí, and a number of journalists. You can read the full details of Mr. Bates account here and here.

Mr. Bates believes the reason he was singled out was becuase he was organizing staff in getting their due pay, and finding out the problems in GMV.

As stated in The Village article ''The Global Mobile Vision website lists postal contact details in London and Houston (Texas). But there are not telephone numbers listed for those addresses. A printed brochure gives a phone number in Delaware in the US, at which there is an automated message saying the voicemail service is full. Village has been unable to get through to a London telephone number listed in the same brochure. The company has no office at its official Dublin address, at 41 Lower Baggot St, but collects its mail from the building every week.'' The company states on their headed notepaper that they are registered as company number. This number is not registered with the Company Registry Office for any company. Global Mobile Vision does not look like registered as a company. In fact no company is registered with these details at all. It does appear to be registered in the UK, but not in Ireland.

Until last Friday, 11 June, current and former staff were owed approx. €32,000 in pay by the company. The reasons? Problems with the payroll company, problems with the electronic banking, and other such stories. After this matter coming to the public notice (from my blogging, the Village Magazine, and political interest) these people have been paid their due wages. A small victory so far.

Staff members passports were taken, and photocopied, apparently for 'security.' They were under constent observation, both by staff and by security cameras. This was not normal. Another serious matter, the allegations of sexual harrassment were raised. Although GMV denied this and said it has ''a strict anti-harassment policy which is clearly stated in the company handbook and reiterated during staff meetings and at staff induction,'' a number of ex-employees, particularly female, said they had been witness to or had been treated like this. One woman, obviously distressed, spoke about male members of the management ''massaging the backs of women'' and ''having to give you your hug when you arrived in the morning.'' A ''hub of female staff'' was spoken about, which surrounded a male member of staff. No one from GMV has answered any questions regarding this matter. The only definate response that has been made by GMV (by Mr. Alexander Fitzgearld, the PR contact for GMV), has been to respond to a blog posting on my own blog.

At the meeting, Finian McGrath TD, paid tribute to the ex-employees and the current employees who were in pursuit of the truth with regards to the goings-on at Global Mobile Vision. He said he had met with a number of people who were visibly in fear for their situations. He said he had the upmost respect for them, and that he would follow this to the end.

Finian McGrath went to meet a number of representatives of GMV today. We have no word from him as to the outcome of the meeting.

GMV are reported to have received a large amount of taxpayer money from the IDA, for each employee they had. What exactly has happened to this money? No one seems to know. From sources I can confirm that GMV have enough money in their accounts to pay the current and former employees.

I sent an e-mail to BBC World and Euronews yesterday asking what kind of business relationship, if any, existed between BBC World and GMV. This morning I received an e-mail from a BBC World contact:

Hello and thank you for your email.

BBC World has an agreement in which Global Mobile Vision supplies the channel to Mobilkom mobile phone subscribers in Austria. This has been in operation for five months and is one of several such contracts that BBC World has with telecoms companies around the globe. We would not comment on any specific allegations about Global Mobile Vision.

Thank you for taking the trouble to write to us.

With regards

Enquiring about this BBC contract, I found out that it was a YBN contract which GMV inherited when they bought YBN. The only other business contact that can be confirmed is with Paula White a Christian religious group in America.

Finian McGrath has raised a number of Dáil questions with a number of Minister involved in industry in Ireland. The Village magazine will be running a follow up article in this weeks edition.

The story of Global Mobile Vision is not yet over. The government have to answer exactly how much these 'businessmen' received, and exactly what it was they told them to get it. Hopefully now that larger media outlets are taking notice of the story, they will have to stand accountable for what they have done.

Watch for Updates and Info at RunningWithBulls.com

author by .:.publication date Fri Jun 17, 2005 16:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

McGrath alleges abuse of workers
by Michael O'Regan



Finian McGrath (Independent, Dublin North Central) said he had been approached by a group of workers alleging serious ill-treatment.

He said there were "allegations of exploitation, intimidation, breaches of employee rights, dismissals, failure to pay staff, mandatory working, the use of sleepers, threats and allegations of sexual harassment".

Mr McGrath, who was advised by Ceann Comhairle Rory O'Hanlon that he could not name the company under the rules of the House, said he had no alternative but to speak out and demand the truth.

"This is Ireland 2005, not Dublin 1913," Mr McGrath said.

He said he had met other members of the company in question recently. "They denied all the allegations, except the non-payment of staff issue. It is important we get to the bottom of these allegations

author by ·.·publication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

oh, skin and hair will fly now!!!!
someone has used one of my pseudonoms ".:."!
that breaches the rules. its impersonation.
I dont have an IT account. My feelings are very hurt now.

author by runningwithbullspublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 13:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://www.runningwithbulls.com/blog/

(filed Friday)
Today, Murray’s Europcar, blocked exits to Global Mobile Vision offices at Unit D.
After a short time they removed a number of cars that had been on hire by Global Mobile Vision management/staff.

http://www.runningwithbulls.com/blog/2005/06/17/global-mobile-vision-esmonde-car-hire-reclaims-cars-from-gmv-office/

More companies are going to be looking for whats owed to them.

author by benny - ex gmvpublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 14:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i'd like to congratulate runningwithbulls for keeping the pressure on and keeping us posted with the absolute scandalous goings on at this so called company.

non-payment of wages and company car rentals, recruitment agents, (who knows, maybe even the security company), cheques bouncing, intimidation, people being fobbed off and even getting fired for simply asking for what is due to them.. these aren't the actions of professionals.

the word that comes to my mind is simple: CRIMINALS.

keep up the fight.

benny

ps here's something for the google image search

*Doctor* David Crownborn
*Doctor* David Crownborn

author by toneorepublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 19:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

An obvious disgrace. I can't tell from the information, but one wonders if the people who set up this operation and manage it are non-EU citizens and therefore granted work visas by Irish Authorities. Clearly, another example of "a cock and bull" story ((c) Michael McDowell) used to gain entry to the country for economic reasons.

The IDA need to improve their evaluation process when it comes to granting funds. How exactly could they have given this shower money based on what we know about them? They don't have any products or services worth mentioning. Could this be another case of DOTCOMitis?

author by toneorepublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 19:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

FYI: globalmobilevision.com is owned by Alexander Fitzgerald, and the main contact now uses a hotmail.com account...

Organization:
GMV
Alex FitzGerald
175 Baggot Street
Dublin, D2
IE
Phone: 00 353 5042003
Email: alexander_fitzgerald@hotmail.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: GLOBALMOBILEVISION.COM

Created on..............: Thu, Aug 12, 2004
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 12, 2005
Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 31, 2004

Administrative Contact:
GMV
Alex FitzGerald
175 Baggot Street
Dublin, D2
IE
Phone: 00 353 5042003
Email: alexander_fitzgerald@hotmail.com

author by DITpublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 19:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

non-EU citizens?
Yes, Toneore. They seem to be Americans. I thought you liked Americans. Or is that just white Americans?

author by Truepublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 19:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If you look up at the top of this thread you will see that they have some connections with Houston, Texas and/or Delaware.

author by toneorepublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 19:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Still appearing, so someone had a creditcard, though if you cancel the programme it runs until end of month anyway.

(DIT - By the way, I fail to see what race has to do with it (though you can deal with your own baggage in this regard). My question was were they actually *working in* Ireland. As i happens I love black Americans. Condi Rice is my favourite, with Colin Powell a close second)

author by D'boy - nonepublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 21:33author email Detboyear at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

David crownborn is actually Nigerian, same with the other crownborns.

David is London/Nigerian.

author by D'boy - nonpublication date Sat Jun 18, 2005 22:50author address http://xerox003.valuehost.co.uk/gmvlinks.htmauthor phone Report this post to the editors

Think all these links will keep everyone up to speed, if anyone knows anymore..give me a shout!

cheers.

Related Link: http://xerox003.valuehost.co.uk/gmvlinks.htm
author by dr evilpublication date Mon Jun 20, 2005 00:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

heres another image

Related Link: http://img204.echo.cx/my.php?image=davidcrownborn26go.jpg
author by Scandalouspublication date Mon Jun 20, 2005 13:57author email scandal at scandal dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

This story is just amazing .

How long is this to be allowed to continue .

Is this really happening in Ireland ?

I understand that many people are still owed money

author by joepublication date Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Staff turned up for work on Monday (27th) and the offices were closed. Staff have not been notified and are all effectively out of jobs now.
I dont know how this hasnt made the news or the papers??

author by benny - ex gmvpublication date Tue Jul 05, 2005 20:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Here's an exerpt from the company director's registration form for Paracletes Technologes (trading as Global Mobile Vision). Anyone looking for their money might be intersted to note that Esther Crownborn registered an address in Tyrrelstown in Dublin. Could it be that the Crownborns live there?

Registration form from the CRO
Registration form from the CRO

author by helppublication date Wed Jul 06, 2005 15:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Has anyone got any news on what is happening with this company. All the media seems to have died down but there are still people who haven't been paid yet. What is going on???? They just seem to have dissapeared without a trace. Is there anything we can do about getting paid the monies we are owed???

author by DeFraudedpublication date Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I have not been paid by these people .
what is the update now ?

author by Ronan Keegan - Print In Time LTDpublication date Wed Jul 13, 2005 15:59author email ronan at paintbox dot ieauthor address Dartry Mills, Dartry Rd, Dublin 6author phone 00 353 1 4975089Report this post to the editors

We also did work for GMV through a friend of a friend, who worked there.

It gauls me to think a company like this is let operate in this country, and walk away leaving suppliers and staff high and dry.

I would advise anyone who comes into contact with these "people" to run a mile.

Does anyone take responsibility for this when the ordinary people struggle on a daily basis to pay our taxes and contribute to society.

author by callcentre mickpublication date Thu Jul 14, 2005 08:03author email tellietubbie2004 at gmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yes, I would be very interested in know where this story went... did Mary Harney conclude an investigation yet or is it all swept out of view?
Is GV still a "going concern"?

author by David Ardeypublication date Fri Jul 15, 2005 15:43author email ardeyman at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone +353 1 6205100Report this post to the editors

Article in the Times and Indo today regarding Esther and Deborah. Well worth having a look. There is a warrent out for them. About time if you ask me.
Dave

author by GMV watcherpublication date Fri Jul 15, 2005 15:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

name of the articles?

please provide links or info

author by Martinapublication date Fri Jul 15, 2005 17:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

What are the papers saying, what happened??
I still havent got paid!!!!

author by callcentre mickpublication date Sat Jul 16, 2005 07:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It must be in the Times? However, I've not paying giving money to Geraldine Kennedy so I can read it - can someone paste it?

author by GMV watcherpublication date Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I have a IRL Times acct - i looked for it - but i need some key words for the IRL times search engine - help me out here and I will publish it here.

author by anonymouspublication date Sun Jul 17, 2005 13:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://www.runningwithbulls.com/blog/2005/07/17/warrant-issued-to-arrest-ybn-international-ireland-directors/

I have been on holidays and did not get a chance to update much.

Also after being threatened by Mr. Fitzgearld with legal proceedings against me for telling the truth.

To be honest, it kinda gave me a speed wobble, but after consulting with 3 seperate legal counsels, I believe I have to continue telling the truth.

rwb

Related Link: http://www.runningwithbulls.com/blog/2005/07/17/warrant-issued-to-arrest-ybn-international-ireland-directors/
author by Legal Counsel - miffedpublication date Mon Jul 18, 2005 13:23author email miffed at law dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

I imagine that not too many legal representatives can take these guys seriously anymore .

I wonder if their legal reps get paid ?

Who do they think they are ignoring orders of the court .

HRM is not the only one to have had judgements against them already

As far as I can see when it gets to real legal issues GMV dont turn up . Fitzgerald knows this well

author by I am the walrus - mepublication date Tue Jul 19, 2005 16:04author email a at ha dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

has anyone noticed on the paula white site any refernce to GMV has been dropped

http://www.paulawhite.org/

also thr work that was done for paula white has been taken down from GMV

http://paulawhite.gmvstreaming.com/index.jsp

:)

author by ex gmverpublication date Tue Jul 19, 2005 16:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

even tho the offices where closed on the 27th...some staff where asked to work from home till advised otherwise..what a shambles.

author by redjadepublication date Tue Jul 19, 2005 16:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

what was on the paula white website?

whats the connection?

author by one of the wise menpublication date Tue Jul 19, 2005 17:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The connection paula white had with gmv was : she supposedly signed a contract with them this year, it was advertised on her website that she had teamed up with GMV for some kind of Paula White streaming package for mobile phones.

GMV had built a website for her, that was non funtional and didnt really serve any purpose. It was set up through 'world pay' and had no back end function to the website.

At the time of building ,there was supposed to be a database for the website to allow customers sign up for the service...that never happened.

Also I found out that the crownborns are now in the states, and where planning on sending out termination letters to the current employees, then open up a new business and send out new contract, the deal being they would stay in america whilst a small bunch of irish staff worked from here with monthly trips to america..Majority of the staff have resigned in the past month, same story as before..their still awaiting payment of wages and expenses...

author by runningbulupdateditpublication date Sat Jul 23, 2005 04:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

After being on holidays for the past two weeks and also as a lack of publishable content regarding Global Mobile Vision I have not published any

As an update to this story, I noticed this morning in yesterday’s Irish Times Business section the Irish Times have run a side piece regarding YBN International Ireland Ltd, a company which is connected to Global Mobile Vision/GM Interactive.

Transcript of the article follows:
=======
Warrant issued to arrest directors

A warrarant for the arrest of two company directors was issued by Judge Alison Lindsay in the Circuit Civil Court yesterday.
John King, solicitor for HRM Recruitment Group, Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin, told the court that Esther Crownborne, and Deborah King, both of The Boulevard, French Park, Dublin 5, had ignored a court order.
He said the court had directed them as directors of YBN International Ireland Ltd., Nangor Road, Crumlin, Dublin, to attend court yesterday to face cross-examination to ascertain the income of their company, but they had failed to turn up.
Earlier the court heard that judgement for €31,000 and €590 costs had been obtained against YBN International by HRM Recruitment.
Judge Lindsay said she would issue a warrant for the arrest of both women and direct gardaí to bring them to court to show why they should not be committed to prison for contempt of court.
=======

This is quite a turn up for the books in regard YBN International Ireland Ltd. YBN International was a streaming broadcast company that was bought by a group of people. Since then it has changed directors.

The sellers of the YBN company are in legal proceedings against GMV due to alleged non-full payment of due monies, after the sale of YBN.

Both Esther Crownborne, and Deborah King are involved with Global Mobile Vision, the company who was being investigated by the Department of Enterprise from the Irish government, for “allegations of harassment and bullying“.
Esther Crownborn is the domain registrant of GMVINTERACTIVE.COM, another of the Global Mobile Vision domainnames.

This is another case where a recruitment company has sued YBN International or GMV for loss of earnings.
Village Magazine, on the 18th of June, ran a story regarding IT Talent, as one of the many companies now looking for payment from GMV.

And as always, this is published from a reputable news source!

Related Link: http://www.runningwithbulls.com/blog/2005/07/17/warrant-issued-to-arrest-ybn-international-ireland-directors/#comments
author by Interested Party .....publication date Wed Jul 27, 2005 16:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1. Do these companies still exist?
2. Are there people still employed (?)/working for them?
3. Have P45'ed employees been paid?
4. Are there people being paid at the moment?
5 How many people worked for them?
6. Is anybody apart from unpaid companies doing anything?

author by tpbpublication date Thu Jul 28, 2005 14:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1. Do these companies still exist?
probably not although you could check with the CRO

2. Are there people still employed (?)/working for them?
yes but not many.

3. Have P45'ed employees been paid?
not to my knowledge

4. Are there people being paid at the moment?
yes but not many

5 How many people worked for them?
somewhere between 40 and 60 at one point

6. Is anybody apart from unpaid companies doing anything?
doesn't look like it. there was mention about a Dail investigation in the newspapers when this story broke first but all is quiet now. Harney said she'd look into it during a Dail Q & A session afaik. this would probably the best place to start looking for more information...


tp

author by Interested Partypublication date Thu Jul 28, 2005 16:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Great! Some more questions:

1. Where are these companies/people working for them based?
2. Any idea how many companies/people they have defaulted payments on or owe money to?
3. Do they or did they ever have a viable product?
4. Other than Village, has any investigative journalist taken up the running on this story?
5. Three companies appear to have taken action (two in courts) against them, are there more in the public domain?
6. How can they be contacted? Are they contactable?

author by tppublication date Fri Jul 29, 2005 09:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1. Where are these companies/people working for them based?
As far as I know, they are "working from home" and taking trips to america. A lot of employees were asked to start working from home and then were sent letters stating that their services were no longer required.

2. Any idea how many companies/people they have defaulted payments on or owe money to?
Hard to know exactly. I would hazard a guess at 10 to 30 but that could be way off.

3. Do they or did they ever have a viable product?
Not in my estimation. They were about image. They talked the talk only. One or two ideas were good but they never advanced beyond a mock-up level

4. Other than Village, has any investigative journalist taken up the running on this story?
Unfortunately not. All has gone quiet again. Like someone who posted on the runningwithbulls.com mentioned, the best thing to do is to put pressure on the TDs who claimed that an investigation was underway. We need to know what the findings of that investigation are / were, or what its current status is.

5. Three companies appear to have taken action (two in courts) against them, are there more in the public domain?
I couldn't comment on that.

6. How can they be contacted? Are they contactable?
Hah good one. You could try contacting Alex Fitzgerald, his mobile number was once published on the globalmobilevision.com website, but it may not be there anymore. If you want to speak with "Doctor" David Crownborn himself, he used to have the number: 086 8192876 but I'd be very surprised if he still uses that number.

author by redjadepublication date Fri Jul 29, 2005 14:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

4. Other than Village, has any investigative journalist taken up the running on this story?
Unfortunately not. All has gone quiet again. Like someone who posted on the runningwithbulls.com mentioned, the best thing to do is to put pressure on the TDs who claimed that an investigation was underway. We need to know what the findings of that investigation are / were, or what its current status is.

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I'd suggest that runningwithbulls or someone else write up a story for indymedia.ie on what is known now and what questions have not been answered yet and so on (a good compilation of above plus with some analysis)

The propose it to the Indymedia Editorial group(of which, I am one of) for a feature.

Its time to revisit this GMV issue.

Its also summer so it will be very difficult to get TDs and mainstream media interested due to vacations and so on.

But if you organise a concerted effort at publicity you can get the ball rolling again.

author by Gibsonpublication date Sat Jul 30, 2005 20:37author email gibsonf7 at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Interested Party'
PLEASE GET IN TOUCH
gibsonf7@hotmail.com

author by Chekovpublication date Sun Jul 31, 2005 20:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

At the end of the day, publicity can only get one so far, it doesn't win battles on its own. Think about any big strike campaign - they inevitably generate loads of publicity and so on, but they only win if they put real physical pressure on the company. Sadly, tech workers are often incredibly naive about the reality of how our class society works and imagine that there are generally benevolent forces (media, politicians) out there who will intervene on behalf of workers when they suffer an injustice. Such forces do not exist. Without proactive action which forces the bosses to act, you never get anywhere.

Imagine if the Mayo Shell campaigners had waited for the media and politicans before taking action - nobody would be aware of their existance.

author by Mark P - Socialist Party (personal cap)publication date Sun Jul 31, 2005 20:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

To give another example, imagine if the GAMA workers had decided not to down tools and take strike action. Imagine they had decided to wait on the courts to sort out their problems for them. They would still be waiting.

There was a huge wave of publicity around the statements of Joe Higgins and various other Socialist Party members had done an enormous amount to bring the whole issue to public attention but ultimately that can only bring an issue so far. What changed the situation was the willingness of the workers to take matters into their own hands and take on their employers collectively.

author by trevorpublication date Wed Aug 03, 2005 09:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Here's a question then. For those people who are involved or are about to become involved in some sort of legal action against GMV (under whatever guise); how active can they be in terms of focussing (media) attention? What i'm asking is, how far can you go without jeopradising your case against them?

I'm one of those people. I want the money they owe me so I'm going through the legal channels. I wouldn't want to give them anything to use against me that could harm my case in any way so what sort of action is it safe for me to take? Or not to take?

Can I organise meetings? Can I speak out in public?

I also do not want to drop this. And even if I don't get a red cent I want to make sure that the Crownborns (or Adlers or whatever their current alias is) and others like them don't get a chance to pull this sort of stunt again. Way too many people were burned by these criminals and it can't be allowed to happen again.

author by True Justicepublication date Mon Aug 08, 2005 23:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I've tried to follow the logic of this injustice perhaps somebody could add some balance to this and consider my dilemma

Are we not european's and following maastricht can we not trade across borders?

With all these anonoymous comments is there really any substance, what are people paranoid of?

Did you know that the 3 wisemen are professional aggitators, anarchists! That is why I would not align with them

The warrants issued for the arrest of the directors (Esther Crownborn and Deborah King) were instantly quashed, I know I was at the court that day to hear the outcome, furthermore HRM got their hand slapped for personalising the issue. The judge considered the approach was unnecessary and the case was thrown out of court
this leads me to believe that the issue cannot be personalised and doing so would be a mistake.

What is the logic of just having bums on seats? people being paid or not being paid for doing no work, it really doesn't make sense!

How can a business operate since April 04 and not pay people, money must have been put into the company, and we know no grant were given to them?

I too am hurting not being paid but I need to put these logical questions to you because I believe in true justice and the right of the individual to make personal choice, I will not ceed to your mob mentality and making completely false alegations, i don't want to be sued for being apart of this group and running with bull ,aka running with slanderous comments.com.

author by just want to be paid!publication date Tue Aug 09, 2005 00:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well true justice,
I too haven't wanted to align with any mob scenario, I do want to be paid though and find it very difficult to believe that this is ever going to happen now that over 2 months has gone by and yet still nothing.
Why has there been no decent explaination for this,or at least some sort of payment structure put in place to pay the outstanding salaries???
No contact, no plausable answers, broken promises of pay dates?
This isn't false or malicious its just fact and as you said yourself your hurting over not getting paid too!!
To many people are being hurt by this to just turn a blind eye and let it just be ignored. I personally am very angry and frustrated that I let myself be kidded into believing all the promises.
What do you suggest at this stage as it seems that these people have already tried the leagal route, if you've read the other comments further down.
I didn't leave or get sacked just left to my own devices and then the odd phone call and of course then no money and now no contact and the mobiles are all on an engaged tone!!
False promises has left me feeling like a right chump and I'm sure I'm not the only one by the looks of things.
I for one will remain anonymous at this stage because I'm consulting the legal channels on this at the moment but if you want to chat thats no problem just post again here and I'll reply.

author by irate - not paidpublication date Tue Aug 09, 2005 17:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The warrants issued for the arrest of the directors (Esther Crownborn and Deborah King) were instantly quashed, I know I was at the court that day to hear the outcome, furthermore HRM got their hand slapped for personalising the issue. The judge considered the approach was unnecessary and the case was thrown out of court


?????

surely it was a judge who issued the warrents in the first place

??

another employee won a judegment against them and they did not show up either

still no payment

author by DJ BJpublication date Wed Aug 10, 2005 16:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Can you substantiate your claim that

1. “The warrants issued for the arrest of the directors (Esther Crownborn and Deborah King) were instantly quashed”.
2. “HRM got their hand slapped for personalising the issue. The judge considered the approach was unnecessary and the case was thrown out of court”.

author by Confusedpublication date Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Deborah was arrested and questioned .
she played the frightened fool in court and claimed to have been duped and not to know anything about the crownborns .

Esther sent word that she would not return from the states

The judge appears to have done nothing .

farce .

warrents were not quashed .

author by DJ BJpublication date Thu Aug 11, 2005 15:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Confused' can you substantiate your last claim that Esther was arrest and walked?

author by defraudedepublication date Thu Aug 11, 2005 16:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

it should be in the court records .

HRMs legals can substansiate

Deborah was arrested is what I heards .
Esther has absconded

author by what?????publication date Fri Aug 12, 2005 13:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

How the hell did she manage to get away with saying she knew nothing about the crownborns when she's living with one of them???????

Doesn't make any sense that the judge just let her walk. Surely with so many witnesses to the fact that she was one of the driving forces behind the opperation should have been testimony enough!!

Can we not lodge formal testimony to the fact that she was romanticly involved with Matthew Crownborn and akin to the Crownborns???? We all witnessed the fact that they were together, and the fact that she was the financial controller!!!

Of course she knows what is going on, same way that Faith, Jim, Aisling & Darren all know what's going on and are in for a nice piece of the action by the sounds of it!!

This needs to be brought to a higher media level. We are never going to get anywhere just putting stuff on the blogs, good and all as they are at keeping us all up to date on the goings on.

Justice phone me on 086 4046758

I know the paranoia is running high at the moment but I'm in the same boat and have a few suggestions.

author by trevorpublication date Fri Aug 12, 2005 14:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Perhaps people could get in touch with HRM about this?

I for one would be happy to testify that Deborah certainly knew who the Crornborns are.

That said, she may not technically have been lying because the name Crownborn appears to be one of many aliases! I mean, does anyone know who the Crownborns are?

Also, she could legitimately claim that she didn't know what she was doing when she signed the form. My experience of the woman was that she didn't seem to know what she was doing most of the time anyway.

Joking aside: maybe there is some way to hook up with HRM in their efforts to bring down these crooks. I'm no legal expert, so I don't know if its possible to get case "renewed" with more information. I can think of plenty of people that would quite happily stand up in court and say that is simply false: she worked very closely with the people who claimed to be the crownborns therefore the rest of her statements should also be called into question.

Isn't / Wasn't she pregnant with Matthew Crownborn's child?

Come on!

author by intrestedpartypublication date Fri Aug 19, 2005 15:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Anybody have any updates on this story. Or actually who are the crownborns...... ???? It is stated that they are in the U.S. Does anybody know what they did before they came to Ireland, or any background information on them. It states that they are originally nigerian ??

author by Ripped offpublication date Tue Aug 23, 2005 13:54author email ripped at eircom dot netauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

If you have a claim against them then call their solicitor .
lavelle coleman .

outraged that this can happen .

author by Liquidatorpublication date Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:30author email ripped at ripped dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Y.B.N International , liquidation meeting ,
Buswells Hotel , 10 am , Aug 30th

Liquidator will be appointed .

See you there

author by Recruitment Agentpublication date Wed Aug 31, 2005 14:28author email agent at agency dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Faith Fisher, is now director of YBN International , chaired the meeting , and was un-ashamedly advised by a solicitor , Brian Bailey of Lavelle Coleman.

Fisher is an employee of GMV UK.
Fisher said she is satisfied with YBN International affairs .
Directors statement of estimated affairs was issued to assembled Creditors.

Bailey seemed to be very confused as to how the board had met and where and how had Esther Crownborn delivered her proxy.

YBN International are now locked out of their registerd offices

Creditors listed included many well know companies and recruitment agencies as well as the collector general.

The meeting was opened to questions.
Apparently Deborah King has resigned , and is feeling ill.
Esther Crownborn was not present and location not revealed .

Ms Fisher attempted to answer various questions about YBN and their activities but apparently not to the satisfaction of the meeting.
Fisher did not seem to be capable of answering explicit questions regarding YBN and its association with GMV and Paracletes
Fisher was not able to account for the misgudence given various companies by YBN International employees Alex Fitzgerald and Jim Nelson.
Fisher was not able to account for the activities of David Crownborn

There was some debate as to the validity of Esther Crownborns proxy.
This was overridden by the chairman of the meeting , Fisher , as advised by Bailey.

The chairman, Fisher, refused to allow the creditors time to meet privately on two occasions.

The Boards candiate as liquidator was appointed

The paracletes liquidation meeting was to be held afterwards.

author by Destroyerpublication date Wed Aug 31, 2005 16:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Two 3G mobile content firms go to wall
Una McCaffrey

Two associated technology companies went into liquidation yesterday with estimated collective debts of almost €3.5 million.
Creditors of Paracletes Technologies Limited and YBN International (Ireland) Limited heard at meetings in Dublin that Edward Walsh had been appointed as liquidator to both companies.
The two firms were involved in the development of third-generation technologies for mobile phones. They are understood to have had a particular focus on religious streaming.
The larger of the overall debts relates to YBN International, which has a deficit of €2.2 million, according to a statement of affairs circulated yesterday.
In mid-July, the company was the subject of a claim taken by recruitment firm HRM, which obtained a €31,000 judgment against YBN International.
At that stage, the Circuit Court issued warrants for the arrest of Esther Crownborn and Deborah King, whom the court considered to be directors of the company.
The two women had, HRM said, been told by the court to attend to face cross-examination to ascertain the income of the company. HRM's solicitor said at the time that they had failed to turn up. Companies Office documents show, however, that Ms King had resigned from her role as director and company secretary of YBN at the end of May.
At that stage, she was replaced by business administrator Faith Fisher. Ms Fisher replaced Ms King as director and company secretary at the same time.
Neither Ms Crownborn nor Ms King were present at yesterday's creditors' meetings. Ms Fisher, who was advised by solicitors Lavelle Coleman, represented the directors of the company.
The estimated statement of affairs for YBN International shows that, as of yesterday, the largest unsecured creditor was Ms Crownborn, who is owed almost €2 million.
Recruitment firm IT Talent is listed as being owed €130,286, although this sum is disputed by YBN's directors. HRM is listed as being owed €31,666. Other listed creditors include Brightwater, another recruitment firm, and public relations company Murray Consultants.
The largest unsecured creditors at Paracletes were listed as being Ms Crownborn and David Crownborn, who together are owed more than €800,000 by the company according to the statement of affairs.

author by andrewpublication date Fri Sep 02, 2005 19:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

hilarious stuff...the crownborns are 'owed' around 2.5 million by their own company...boo fucking hoo. have to say i'd like to know exactly what the public relations companies were doing for them. very little sympathy for them. tempted to apply the same logic to the recruitment company but not sure it's a similar case. anyway, all's well that ends well, these jokers are out of business. not that they were ever actually in business to begin with but it's still nice to see

author by screwedpublication date Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:49author email conned at fraud dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Article in Phoenix covering the aquisition and sales of YBN and the background to the YBN international company .
Back page

author by Fat Dayyyyyyy---veeeedpublication date Wed Oct 26, 2005 15:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

www.globalmobilevision.com

http://www.action-streams.com

http://royalcom.com

here they go again ,

liars cheats fraudsters cowards

author by Fat Dayyyyyyy---veeeedpublication date Wed Oct 26, 2005 17:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

www.globalmobilevision.com

http://www.action-streams.com

http://royalcom.com

here they go again ,

liars cheats fraudsters cowards

author by jm#fo - sewrpublication date Sun Nov 06, 2005 00:40author address tttttttthauthor phone Report this post to the editors

does anyone know what has happened to the running with bulls ,gmv comments

author by AintNobigotpublication date Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well Running with Bulls has been served with high court papers .

He has taken down the comments and articles .

The shower of liars and cheats and banrupts can still pay for legal action .

They never bothered to show up in court when someone else was paying for it .

Shame -- Lavelle -coleman bootboys again .

And after what I see on www.glovbalmobilevision.com
I am sickened by this cynical pathethic tactic.
This is typical of the bullyboy tactics

http://royalcom.com

what a bunch of charletons and cheats .

author by bennypublication date Mon Nov 07, 2005 16:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

google cache


I have saved most, if not all of the files that were ordered to be removed. I'm sure they might find their way back onto the internet without too much trouble.


crownborn, king, murphy, fitzgerald (and the rest of you clowns) here's a link you should definitely check out:

www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/



benny

Related Link: http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
author by liquidatorpublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 13:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I have not done anything
and I dont care

author by bennypublication date Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

that is exactly the attitude that those muppets who ran GMV seem to have: *they* are the victims in this. and its almost as if they really believe this.

i couldn't figure out how anyone could be so malignant and cold hearted to others unless they genuinely believed that there was absolutely no other alternative but to behave in the way that they did. and if a few people get caught up in it by losing out on wages well then so be it.

sad.

you people are sick, twisted, selfish uncaring hypocrites and you will get what is coming to you.

sleep tight crownborn and cronies.

author by Gmv v.s Royalcompublication date Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

ROYALCOM Expands Operations with Additions to Executive Team
Tuesday November 1, 3:42 pm ET

LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 1, 2005--Colonel Bill Moore's role as chief strategist has been expanded to the chairmanship of the board of ROYALCOM, a global provider of wireless data content and mobile commerce services. The company has also appointed John Jenner as COO, joining ROYALCOM's experienced executive team.



"As our operations continue to expand, we are pleased to have such experienced leaders as Bill and John driving our rapid momentum," said Sue Bohle, spokesperson, ROYALCOM. "Bill and John's depth of experience and strategic vision, and their passion for innovation through emerging technologies, make them perfect fits within our rich corporate team."

During his more than 27 years of active duty for the U.S. Army, including his position as Deputy Chief of Staff Intelligence, Col. Moore managed the development of new technologies, such as a multi-million dollar Advanced Concepts Technology Demonstration project. Col. Moore's extensive technology background in the Army included designing and fielding multi-million dollar intelligence systems and communications architectures. He was active in developing wide-sweeping communications solutions using emerging technologies. Honored throughout his career, Col. Moore received the Legion of Merit award for his efforts to lead change in the field of intelligence, and the Defense Superior Service Medal for his leadership and business acumen.

A former Microsoft executive, Jenner played a key architectural role developing such Microsoft products as Windows, SQL Server, SNA Server and Exchange. Jenner also contributed to Microsoft's Internet products, including Microsoft's Internet Information Server. Previously, Jenner served as president of Electronic Business Tool (EBT), Inc, a software development and consulting firm focused on e-commerce, enterprise application integration, rich multimedia streaming and e-learning. There, he oversaw the implementation of EBT's e-learning solutions at more than 40 different universities including Harvard, Cal State and the University of Florida. Jenner has been at the head of developing the first fully integrated, easy to use solution for creating and managing streaming multimedia applications.

"ROYALCOM's unique branding services offers the most robust, full-service content wireless branding on the market. With the rapid expansion of our operations and customers, we are quickly bringing more corporate and community brands to the mobile/wireless market," said Bill Moore, chairman of the board and chief strategist, ROYALCOM. "I am thrilled to continue to contribute to ROYALCOM's success."

In addition to its U.S. headquarters, the company also operates offices in Asia and Europe.

ROYALCOM's five divisions -- Actionstream, Actvantage, Brand2mobile, Professional consulting and R&D services -- work with mobile device manufacturers, wireless carriers, established corporate brands and content owners to deliver rich, mobile content and intelligent m-commerce applications to mobile consumers and businesses. The company's mobile commerce platform allows providers to monetize the delivery of rich multimedia content including live television and video downloads, realtones, ringtones, games and wallpapers using ROYALCOM's branding service.

About ROYALCOM:

ROYALCOM acts as a global provider of wireless data content and mobile commerce services to organizations seeking to bring their product and services to a wider audience through the mobile marketplace. This is done by designing services tailored to the specific needs of different affinity groups.

Because mobile connectivity is no longer limited by boundaries, companies and organizations can reach millions of national and global customers through ROYALCOM's mobile platform.

More information can be found at www.royalcom.com



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Contact:

The Bohle Company
Derek Asato/Katy Lim, 310-785 0515 Ext. 201/219
derek@bohle.com / katy@bohle.com

author by "Whats goin on....oh whats goin on"publication date Wed Nov 16, 2005 13:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

How come david crownborn never associates his own name with his company. why are the bohle clowns getting involved when they must know whats going on here.do these new people recruited in royalcom know they'll end up looking for royal-compensation pretty soon

author by Tubby Crownborn - Fraud Incpublication date Wed Nov 16, 2005 20:18author email Tubby at fraud dot incauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

iF nobody tell them who they are getting involved with then they may never know .

Nobody told me and it cost me .
then it turned out I was not alone and only met the others at a liquidation meeting .

I suspect that this Bill Moore is a fake anyway .

Jenner appears to have been a system engineers in MS

send them an email .

Royal --con

author by Royalcompublication date Wed Nov 16, 2005 20:37author email query at globalmobilevision dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Is this Royalcom company GMV ?

Do I work for them too ?

author by bennypublication date Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Do you have pointless round-table discussions with a big black dude who calls himself a "doctor" and whose vocabulary is mostly made up from buzzwords like "synergy", "mutualizing"? The meetings last for hours and have no direction. The big black dude might get up and walk across the board room table with an insane laugh while others around it titter nervously (thinking: what the hell am I doing sitting here with this fucking lunatic?) You may have been promised a very bright future because you have skills that bring a lot to the company. You might have been promised a car, maybe you already have one (but be careful, it could be a rental that they haven't paid for yet and might not ever). You might be at the end of your day and decide to go home when you are intercepted for a meeting with the aforementioned lunatic. This again will last for hours and will go nowhere. If you are feeling constantly controlled and uncomfortable and are starting to question your judgement about joining this company the chances are that yes: you are working for GMV.

My advice: leave after your first payday, if you get one.


benny

author by www.Royalcom.compublication date Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I really miss being kept in work for hours for no reason and no overtime.

author by Every Action - Reactionpublication date Sat Nov 19, 2005 00:03author email me at u dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Today I recieved my judgment from the LRC (labour relations commission.)

I was rewarded 750e compensation on the 'terms of employment act' it was deemed (after some confusion as to who my actual employer was, GMV or Paracletes) praracletes technologies was my employer. So I'm now owed 750e on top of the other 1270e I was owed in wages.

Reading through the report from the commissioner, it was hilarious the amount of times GMV cocked things up. Making me sign a *paracletes* contract and then giving me a letter of employment stating my position with *GMV* was one big one.

surely they (gmv/paracletes/royal con cant put that down to bad administration due to outside pressures, as this was before all the fuss and things went off..so I wonder what their excuse for this is..

author by Defraudedpublication date Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:41author email rippedoff at work dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

How will they pay you ?

why should they pay because of an LRC judgement now when they have fled

Other companies and individuals have district court judgements against em already and for along time .

Perhaps Sue Bohle would like to comment ?
What doec Royalcom think of this publicity ?
Would Col. Bill Moore like to comment ?

author by Faithpublication date Mon Nov 21, 2005 20:38author email faith at estersbeckoncall dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

What a pair of deluded cunts the Clownborns are proving to be!
These filthy rich twits have now instructed and are bonded to pay ‘Labium and Colon Solicitors’ to take High Court proceedings against suppliers, workers and blog geeks in an attempt to stop them from voicing concerns about the dodgy pairs proven shifty business practises’.
 
‘Labium and Colon’ have agreed with the Clownborns that they have a ‘case’, meanwhile they are pissing themselves all the way to the bank as they did in the recently times with some other fools money; ‘The Victims of Residential Institutions Redress Board’.

author by achtungpublication date Tue Nov 22, 2005 23:21author email ha at ha dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well I recieved myecond judgment today on my payment of wages, I was awarded my pay of e1,230 along with last weeks judgment where i was awarded e750 im now owed e1,980

I dont expect to ever see this money, (even though if they dont pay up I will get a percentage given to me *eventually*)

But Its proves my actions had weight, and I wasnt rebel rousing or trying to sabotage and take down a company...as its seems they'ed like people to believe and have accused a select few of trying to do so, even at my lrc hearing they tried that, calling me a pest, a deviant and I was constantly disrupting them...I WASNT GETTING PAID YOU IDIOTS!!!!...luckily the LRC commissioner was smart enough to see through their numbskull of a plan.

I suspect the majority of the decisions from the LRC will be of the same outcome...

author by redjadepublication date Sat Nov 26, 2005 14:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Everything you blog is false

TOM RAFTERY has recorded an excellent interview with TJ McIntyre from Digital Rights Ireland that spotlights how easy it is to squelch bloggers. Although McIntyre's focus is on the legal tools that established brands can use to protect the integrity of their marketplace position, you don't need to use a legal instruments to shut down comments from bloggers.

During the course of one million page views on my blogs, I have received three official-looking documents that forced me to consider what I wrote, what others had commented and who had tracked back to my domains. I normally revised copy, comments or links based on those letters. However, I also probed the veracity of the official-looking letters and discovered they were not as threatening as they appeared on first glance.

• Above from Irish Eyes Blog
read more text and links at
http://irish.typepad.com/irisheyes/2005/11/everything_you_.html

author by "abuse of process."publication date Tue Nov 29, 2005 18:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A SLAPP suit is typically a lawsuit by a company (David and Esther Crownborn) to silence individuals or small groups that protest actions by a company(Running with Bulls, suppliers and employees). Their main strategy is to intimidate the opposition by spending lots of money on teams of lawyers (Lavelle Coleman). Here is some David and Esther Crownborns claims brought in their recent High Court SLAPP processings:

Defamation. Broadly defined, this is an alleged intentional false communication, which is either published in a written form (libel) or publicly spoken (slander), that injures one's reputation. There is nothing false about the allegations, these thieves did a runner and didn't pay their bills 40 suppliers and 60+ employees out of pocket. They continue to set up in the USA as Royalcom.com and take cases against anybody back in Ireland who has voiced their concerns about their dodgy business practises. More Smoke!

Malicious Prosecution or Abuse of Process. A "malicious prosecution" is a criminal or civil lawsuit which is begun with knowledge that the case lacks merit, and which is brought for a reason (e.g., to harass or annoy) other than to seek a judicial determination of the claim. The use of the legal process to intimidate or to punish the person against whom the suit is brought is generally referred to as "abuse of process."
Check their website for examples of their abusive and bully behaviour and the general calibre of their fruitcake agrument which lacks more that a little merit… www.globalmobilevision.com

Conspiracy. A conspiracy is an alleged agreement between two or more persons to commit an illegal, unlawful, or wrongful act.

A conspiracy is not 40 suppliers and 60+ employees who have not been PAID UP! More Mirrors!

author by Derekpublication date Tue Nov 29, 2005 18:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Is it true that Running With Bulls got SLAPPED? I thought there was some technical problem with the missing GMV pages. I might be more apt to rename it Running With Lambs?

author by Tysonpublication date Tue Nov 29, 2005 20:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'''S'''ounds '''L'''ike '''A''' '''P'''ersonal '''P'''roblem to me

author by liquidatorpublication date Tue Nov 29, 2005 22:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Maybe these Nigerians learnt something from Ireland, if you are done an injustice sue.

author by anon e mousepublication date Wed Nov 30, 2005 13:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

hi derek,

lambs or bulls..good question. after speaking with rwb, rwb said it is not an easyt thing to do (ie taking down that information), but otherwise he would be looking down the barrel of a potential €20K lawsuit.

now since rwb's decision to remove the posts, it has come to light, through the TJ MacIntyre interview that the defamation laws are stacked against the small man, and that the one with the bigger legal eagles will win.

with those odds stacked against rwb, i can understand why rwb removed them.

author by Derekpublication date Thu Dec 01, 2005 17:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I would understand backing off if RWB had in fact defamed the principals? However, RWB did not defame or slander anybody !

RWB's posted newspaper articles which included 'comments' from private individuals who's opinions were their own and not RWBs! This is clearly a case of being "SLAPPED" (see above). Their case is a sick joke and in time will be thrown out, it doesn't have a basis in reality its just further evidence of their aberrate & dysfunctional crookedness; supported by the 'paid'(?) friends over on Fitzwilliam Square.

RWB Sweet Lamb of Jaysus
we implore you, publish and be damned, let them blow it out their arses!!

author by AintNoBigot - amnasty@shame.compublication date Tue Dec 06, 2005 13:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is the truth .
GMV/YBN/Paracletes are and were in breach of the law

This is not racism

There are lots of judgements against them .

They are a bunch of cowards and liars

They have hurt and caused expense to many people

They have absconded leaving a trail of chaos and bitterness behind them .

David and Esther Crownborn, Deborah King , Alex Fitzgerald .... goodbye, good riddence

Royalcom is just another fiasco .
Look at their form

author by Goldhawkpublication date Thu Dec 08, 2005 19:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

IN THE latest twist in the collapse of controversial Dublin-based software firm Global Mobile Vision Ltd (GMV), the company has set up a rather odd website (www.globalmobilevision.com). This not only contains stern words from GMV’s legal eagles, Lavelle Coleman, but also an entertaining open letter to Minister for Enterprise Micheál Martin. It will be recalled (see The Phoenix 21/10/05) that GMV – which ceased operating in Treland in May eas at the centre of a string of allegations by former employess, including bullying, sexual harassment and non-payment of wages. Two other software firms run by GMV directors Esther Crownborn and Deborah King subsequently collapsed into liquidation leaving whopping debts of €3.5m.

Fortunately, the new GMV website throws some light on the matter. Apparently, the problem was that Minster Martin “let ‘commies’ infiltrate government bodies to destroy the entrepreneurial spirit of Irish people”. This letter also slams labour affairs minister Tony Killeen for “encouraging a racial witch hunt” by stating that the GMV principals – both of whom are black –“may no longer be within the jurisdiction of the State”.

Oddly, the letter to Martin is unsigned and althought the website claims that the GMV principals are still in the country, no contact details are provided, Nor is there any mention made of the collapse of the Crownborn and King’s other firms.

The Lavelle Coleman letter posted on the site makes it clear, however, why an arrest warrant was issued for Crownborn and King after they failed to comply with a court order. According to the high profile solicitors, their clients failed to show up in court because their summonses were posted to the wrong address.

taken from THE PHOENIX November 4, 2005 page 46

author by Follow Uppublication date Thu Dec 08, 2005 22:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Am I reading this correct, there is no warrant out for their arrest, there was just a demand to turn up to court?

If this is true I am annoyed that I have been misinformed by certain individuals to depict these "crownborns' " as criminals. I never saw them as criminals, definitely naive but not criminals.

Goldhawk holds Lavelle and Coleman in high regard from my reading of things. So maybe those who got slapped should really worry, cause from what I' m seeing it doesn't look good for them.

author by eeekkkkkpublication date Thu Dec 08, 2005 23:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

strange sudden response

author by Sir Realpublication date Fri Dec 09, 2005 00:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I made a PDF format file of the GMV reply and archived it here:

http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/gmvreply.pdf

really f**king hilarious - and desperate too.

I totally sympathise with those who got SLAPPED - but there's always places to put things on the internet to keep the record straight.

Blaming racism and communism is seriously wacko!

author by Communismpublication date Fri Dec 09, 2005 01:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Communism strikes tomorrow, even when the well oiled industrial relations machinery of the state has been exhaustively used. Bets are Joe and Finian will lead the march!!!!!

Looks like Joe used you to further his own cause attacking the industrial relations machinery of the state in his question to the Taoiseach about GMV, Finian's Press Statement remarking "This is 2005 not 1913" . You boys may have been used by no finer people than those you expected to stand up for you and further your cause not theirs.

This has got to be racist for the bitterness and spite raging through these blogs.

I too am owed money, but I have got on with my life and it deplores me to think that you are twisted a bitter enough not to let go some 181 days.




Something that did not happen in the GMV case. You should be ashamed of yourselves destroying the crownborns who have put on record to have lost €2.8 million because of your heavy handed and illegal actions

author by The 6th beatle - mepublication date Sat Dec 10, 2005 02:18author email Undefeated_since_79 at u dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

obviously you havnt got a clue what the word 'racist' means.

bitterness and spite? its funny you accuse 'these blogs' of that, but what about gmv's offical website? putting peoples PPS numbers online? what the hell is that about? is that not bitter and twisted? also making false claims that theyve taken high court action against certain people....

181 days on...Ive got a new job, and im doing just fine, but why should I just 'move on'? should I just let people walk all over me?.

NO CHANCE...IM GOING TO FIGHT THIS ALL THE WAY.

author by Badmanpublication date Sat Dec 10, 2005 03:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It's hard to SLAP a network that lives nowhere and everywhere. It's also a brave man who SLAPS a fellow with 200 arms.

Indymedia - strength in numbers.

author by Anti-Racistpublication date Sat Dec 10, 2005 15:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I have decided I have had enough of your one sided comments, bigotry and unfair abuse and I have decided to tell what really happened here. I have no interest with the crownborns I have moved on got a great job and am looking forward to Christmas.

But can you justify these racist actions:

What a picture of David Crownborn is doing on this weblog if it isn't racist? Why would somebody take a picture? A Picture tells a thousand words!!!! And a picture of a black man with dollar signs behind him is hardly inspiring when you are trying to defend that this is not racist.

One of you ( name withheld) rang Europecar saying black people were trying to sell a BMW on the long mile road before they left Ireland.

Where is the truth in these people being Nigerian? I saw the UK passports when they went abroad and the names on the tickets as Crownborn.

I have check through the Globalmobilevision.com website and there is no PPS No. What are you talking about? Is it true that John Bates has been on the scratcher for the last six years, I thought he was a lecturer in TCD or is that a lie?

Why was your organised campaign fought through the Politicans and the Press before going through the Industrial Relations Machinery of the State?

Why were suppliers and the BBC and others contacted if all you wanted was payment. With all these being contacted it would be harder to get paid. Defies logic to me if all you wanted was your money? Unless you wanted to destroy GMV and the creditability of the crownborns.

If you only wanted to get paid you could have taken your case directly to the LRC. I have taken mine there it wasn't contested and I await the result from the LRC?

I never intended destroying the crownborn lives by getting on the back of this racist campaign to destroy GMV and the crownborns.

I'm sure Indymedia will support you in this blatant racist campaign?

I have no dealing with the crownborns, the truth is I feel sorry for them, but I am outraged that you have gotten away with this. Is this the future of an Integrated Ireland?

author by the 6th beatlepublication date Sun Dec 11, 2005 00:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

would you like to br provided with the original copy of the website that was online??? with the PPS number?

about 1 month ago levell and coleman was ordered to take it down by data protection, im sure john bates could fill you in more about this.

as for the employee letters in the site, i have a copy of all those emails, ALL SENT ON THE 15th OF JUNE (not a coincidence?)....and since then I think 5 out of that group of people who (wink wink) 'willingly sent those emails of their own acorde' have either lodged claims into the lrc or have asked for those letters to be taken down...

since you seem hell bent on bluring the truth here and trying to turn this into some kind of racist witchhunt, i dont think anything i say will change your mind.

I think the purpose of having pictures online of david crownborn is to make people fully aware of who he is and what their dealing with..no racist attack..plain and simple...im not sure who put the dollor signs in, but it adds a certain irony I think.

first i heard of the Europecar story, and to be honest i dont care, all I know is, at one point they owed money to Europecar, who confiscated their cars when they didnt get paid, just like the landlord throwing them out beacuse he didnt get paid, and a certain taxi branch showing up on their door step beacuse they didnt get paid...again the truth...i suppose their racists aswell....or should they have gone to the lrc?

Related Link: http://www.racist_my_arse.com
author by Christmas Againpublication date Fri Dec 16, 2005 13:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ah yes i remember this time last year 365 days ago when I was ripped off , lied to , cheated , nice treatment at the hands of those fools .

it wrecked my christmas

author by Ho Ho Ho - nonepublication date Fri Dec 23, 2005 17:00author email yo at ho dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well im sure John bates must be in a festive mood,,,he was awarded a whopping e10,000 from the LRC...unfairly dismissed in trying to set up a trade union...and also won his payment of wages.

Lets see these idiots try take him to the high court now.

author by bennypublication date Tue Jan 03, 2006 09:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well done to John Bates. I hope you get to enjoy your winnings. Shame it had to come to this at all.

author by Estherpublication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 23:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Congrats To Mr Bates


lets see if anyone gets paid .
Whree are those millionaires ?

Vindication .

author by dan c - former gmvpublication date Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

After a lengthy process involving a claim to the liquidator and a hearing at the LRC (at which nobody from Paracletes showed up), I finally got the money I was owed. I received a cheque from the liquidator last week and it cleared over the weekend.

So, to anyone whose hopes are fading regarding getting paid / compensated, I can confirm that it has happened for me, so if you are still waiting, it may soon come to you.

What an absolutely horrible experience that was. Best of luck to all (apart from the obvious),

Dan

author by YBN international - defraudedpublication date Mon Jan 09, 2006 16:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

what is the situation if one is owed money by YBM international ??

C

author by dan c - former gmvpublication date Mon Jan 09, 2006 16:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I am assuming that the same liquidator was appointed for YBN as for Paracletes. According to the story posted above (Irish Times Business Section today by Destroyer Wednesday, Aug 31 2005, 3:06pm) this the case.

So, if you're owed money by YBN, I'd suggest you contact Edward Walsh on 01-2016245 / 087-2639335.

Best of luck,
dan

author by fatboy - grifter orgpublication date Thu Jan 19, 2006 22:49author address umknown , cant remember , not foundauthor phone Report this post to the editors

Is it free of tax and VAT to take a dump in America ,

it is in Ireland ?

Royalcom , douche Urs here for free

flush flush flush

author by Holmespublication date Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

GLOBAL MOBILE VISION LTD
(Courtesy of Companies House UK 2006)

DIRECTORS

ALEX FITZGERALD,
12 KENILWORTH ROAD
RATHGAR
DUBLIN 6

BRIAN O'ROURKE,
166 ST JAMES ROAD
CROYDON
SURREY
CR0 2UZ

SHAREHOLDERS

DAVID CROWNBORN
15 KILININNY COURT
FIRHOUSE
DUBLIN 22

ESTHER CROWNBORN
15 KILININNY COURT
FIRHOUSE
DUBLIN 22

BRENDAN HADE
MILVERTON HOUSE
MONTGOMERY STREET
CARLOW

SHELIA HADE
MILVERTON HOUSE
MONTGOMERY STREET
CARLOW

GERRY BYRNE
MILVERTON HOUSE
MONTGOMERY STREET
CARLOW

The Victory Christian Fellowship is one of the biggest providers of accommodation to
asylum seekers in the State. The group runs three centres, Kilmacud House,
Kilmarnock House in Killiney, and MILVERTON HOUSE, MONTGOMERY STREET, CARLOW !

Victory Christian Fellowship Church, which received about €2.5 million in State funding last year
to house more than 240 people seeking refugee status.

Related Link: http://home.eircom.net/content/irelandcom/topstories/6082775?view=Eircomnet
author by THIEVES LIKE USpublication date Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

THREE ASYLUM seekers, who pleaded to stealing five bottles of wine
had a case against them adjourned pending a probation officers report,
at the December 6 sitting of Carlow District Court.

Tudor Rotard, Emanuel Gamann and Silvio Gheorghe, whose address was
given as GLOBAL MOBILE VISION C/O MILVERTON HOUSE, MONTGOMERY STREET, CARLOW
pleaded to the theft of the wine, the property of Jim Doyle at Tullow Street, on November 23.

Judge Mary Martin adjourned the case to the March 7 sitting pending a probation officer’s report.

Related Link: http://www.carlow-nationalist.ie/community/story.asp?j=11675
author by redjadepublication date Sun Feb 12, 2006 13:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

the link you posted does not mention: 'GLOBAL MOBILE VISION C/O'

stick to the facts, please.

author by Oh Pious 1publication date Sun Feb 12, 2006 18:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Brendan, Shelia and Gerry rooming with Tudor, Emanuel and Silvio surely not?
I would have thought businesspersons of their standing would have been accustomed
to more plush surroundings.

But who can figure them at this point, as you maybe aware they are still associated with some very ‘shady’ businesspersons. They appear to relish it, have a fondness for it?

Clearly, clemency is good for business!

author by Thieves Like Uspublication date Sun Feb 12, 2006 18:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Redjade please please delete the inaccuracy in my previous post,

'GLOBAL MOBILE VISION C/O'

as it was meant as a humorous poke, which is no longer allowed in the times that we live in??
I promise to stick to the facts in future Webmaster.

not true
by redjade Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:00
the link you posted does not mention: 'GLOBAL MOBILE VISION C/O'

stick to the facts, please.

author by Outragedpublication date Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Can shareholders can be held to account by the courts for non payment of wages? As shareholders the victory christian fellowship should surely put its money where its mouth is? has there ever been an official reaction from them, are the also represented by Lavelle coleman?

author by bennypublication date Tue Feb 14, 2006 17:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

just think of it!

you could be neighbours with the Crownborns:

http://www.sherryfitz.ie/sf2003.exe?pageref=res_propert...sales

benny

author by ROYALSHITSpublication date Thu Feb 16, 2006 13:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Global Mobile Vision or GMV Interactive as its also known has re-named itself ROYALCOM and re-located to Los Angeles. This company is now recruiting staff for its "international headquarters" and is being marketed by The Bohle Corporation. The main duo of this company David & Esther Crownborn nee Adler are bringing cases against ex-employees in Ireland claiming that they tried to bring about the ruination of the company in a rasist hate campaign and are thus trying desperately to get all mention of them on the internet taken down. They have had quite a few days in court with employees and suppliers who are owed vast sums of money and as yet have not been paid a red cent.Their own website www.globalmobilevision.com has letters from former employees that were written under the watchful eyes of the directors which gives them the look of being targeted by a hate campaign. But, and its a big but, they were never targeted by any hate campaign at all!!! Is it not your right to be paid by your employer if you are employed by them?? Is it not your right as a supplier to be paid for goods and services you have supplied to a company??

More smoke-screens from these people has put the ex-employees and more importantly the Irish people in a very bad light. If we were paid what we were owed in the first place none of the comments would have been made and all of the comments made were justified by the fact that many people were left majorly out of pocket by these people.

As yet even though many of us have won our court cases against this pair none of us has recieved any money in compensation. A ew bounced cheques, more heartache and still un-healthy bank balances.

Please, please, please don't be taken in by this crowd of non-payers. They will promise you the sun, moon and stars and make you feel a million $$$'s but will never come through for you and eventually leave you with a pretty big hole in your bank account.

Don't let another fake company ruin your life as it has to so many people in Ireland.

author by royalcom/global mobile visionpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Has anyone any info on the GMV liquidation

author by bennypublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 14:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

?

author by Alex and Brianpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 15:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

YBN & PARACLETES TECHNOLOGIES LTD
are currently liquidating, its the slowest liquidation in the history of the state, hee hee hee!

However,GMV have not liquidated as we are still very much alive YOU SUCKERS!! Its business as usual for us!

Check here for updates

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/04121b937d30a2397af75...esult

XX

Alex and Brian

author by chekovpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 15:40author email chekov at indymedia dot ieauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

That company was incorporated in the UK on the 25/08/04 - after this article was posted. Presumably that means that it is not the same company.

Taken with a curious posting of the details of the PR person acting for GMV and an almost immediate threat to sue, this is all getting curiouser and curiouser.

author by bennypublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 15:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

the above story broke in june 2005, not '04. stil a curious post though!

author by chekovpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 16:02author email chekov at indymedia dot ieauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'm getting old - one year is the same as the next....

Still, the UK listing claims that the GMV listed does not have any overseas affiliates - so I'm still not convinced it is the same thing.

Why would somebody try to provoke the people who were burned and basically robbed of their labour by GMV by referring to them as suckers though? It smells like some sort of provocation.

author by bennypublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 16:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

its the same company alright. however the post might not necessarily have been made by someone who still works there. although i wouldn't be altogether surprised if it was, that'd be their style alright.

author by ?? - ??publication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 16:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Benny, GMV have appointed a liquidator i have heard
who is it and then i'll ask
somebody may be in the know, why else are we blogging?

author by bennypublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 16:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

wtf?

author by Marked Manpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 17:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'm still up to my neck in debt after working (been rolled) by those GRIFTERS.

I need my outstanding PAY, I’m still struggling with a loan from last summer, I wasn’t paid for 3 months, lost my home and then I went to the Labour Court and was awarded the money, but the company still has not honoured a single cent owed.

You have no idea, what grief these people have caused!!

Please Please Please tell me who is the GMV Liquidator?

author by Goldhawkpublication date Fri Feb 24, 2006 17:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

CHECK OUT

Today's Phoenix page 54

'Onward Christian Soldiers'

This has got to be the craziest story ever told?

author by Anthonypublication date Wed Mar 01, 2006 00:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Onward Christian Soldiers

IN 2004, the State paid fringe Christian church the Victory Christian Fellowship (VCF) 2.5m to house 240 asylum seekers. VCF is run by pastors Sheila and Brendan Hade, the listed shareholders of Global Mobile Vision Ltd (GMV). This is the Dublin-based mobile technology firm at the centre of a string of allegations by former employees of bullying, sexual harassment and non- payment of wages.

It will be recalled (see The Phoenix 21/10/05) that the allegations against the British- registered GMV were made last September in the Dáil by junior enterprise minister Tony Killeen. After the collapse of two related companies, GMV set up a rather bizarre website claiming that the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Micheál Martin, "let `commies' infiltrate government bodies to destroy the entrepreneurial spirit of the Irish people".

According to documents lodged in the British Companies House at the end of last year, Brendan Hade holds a 16% stake in GMV, while Sheila Hade holds an 11% stake. David and Esther Crownborn, who gave an address in Firhouse in Dublin and Gerry Byrne, with an address in Co Carlow, hold the remaining shares. The listed directors here include Rathgar resident Alex Fitzgerald, who is described as the vice president of business development at the firm.

The latest unaudited accounts for GMV reveal that the company had accumulated losses of almost £1m stg at the end of August last year. These accounts also contain remarkable claims about the most recent trading year, which are contained in the directors' report.

According to the report, GMV "has been the victim of a most vicious campaign, initiated by some disgruntled employees" and "these individuals illegally initiated a `credit run' for the destruction of GMV". The report also claims that GMV "was subjected to corporate espionage, fraudulent misrepresentation and interference with contractual regulations".

Meanwhile, the Hades' Victory Christian Fellowship has lost two of its lucrative government contracts to run accommodation centres in Kilmacud House in Stillorgan in Dublin and in Milverton House in Carlow town. The church does still run its centre in Kilmarnock House in Killiney in Co Dublin, which has a capacity for 125 people.

author by redjadepublication date Sun Mar 05, 2006 13:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

GMV faces €1.2m judgment day
by Mark Paul

GLOBAL MOBILE VISION (GMV), the Dublin-based technology company that ceased trading last year after a string of allegations concerning harassment and bullying of its employees, is to go into liquidation with debts of almost €1.2m and will hold a meeting of its creditors in Dublin this week.

The company, which lists two Irish directors and is 43%-owned by members of an Irish-based church group, the Victory Christian Fellowship, was run by an English couple, David and Esther Crownborn who have an address in Firhouse, Dublin.

The company owes the Revenue about €150,000 and €138,000 is owed to employees. Murrays Rent-a-Car, which provided company vehicles, is owed €32,000, while Crimeforce, a security firm, is owed €13,000.

Two Irish-registered sister firms of GMV that provided mobile phone content for American evangelist television networks, Paracletes Technologies and YBN International, both collapsed last year with combined debts of €3.4m.

reead more at
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-528-206....html

author by MELISSApublication date Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

GMV Creditors meeting is been held tomorrow 7th March at 10:30 am
in The Harcourt Hotel, 60 Harcourt Street, Dublin 2.

author by bennypublication date Thu Mar 09, 2006 18:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

so how did it go? anyone?

author by Colm Keena / Irish Times 8th March 2006publication date Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Global Mobile Vision, a technology company that went into voluntary liquidation last year amid a string of allegations from its staff, left a deficiency of €1.46 million, creditors were told yesterday.

A statement of affairs produced for the meeting showed the company had tangible assets of €8,785. The Irish Times was not allowed to attend the meeting.

The main shareholders, UK nationals David and Esther Crownborn, were not present at yesterday's meeting. Efforts to contact them were unsuccessful.

Global Mobile Vision is a UK registered business that had a trading address at Nangor Road Business Park, Dublin 12. It was incorporated in August 2004 and began trading immediately. It ceased trading in June 2005.

The company's stated principal trading activity was the marketing and provision of data services to mobile phones.

The company's Irish directors told liquidators Kroll, of Manchester, England, according to the report to creditors, that the principal reasons for the company's failure were "damaging allegations made by former employees" and the insolvency of a debtor company. The debtor company, which owed £326,488, was Paracletes Technologies, also of Dublin.

Two related companies, Paracletes Technologies and YBN International Ireland, went into liquidation in August 2005, leaving debts estimated at €3.5 million.

Employees are owed more than €160,000 in wage arrears and other payments, according to the statement of affairs. The Revenue is owed €150,633. Trade creditors total €115,179, while directors loans are €1 million.

The statement of affairs showed the company had laptop computers worth an estimated €8,785 and no other assets.

The trade creditors include: Crimeforce Ireland Property Protection (€8,468); Heneghan PR (€21,780); Murrays Rent-a-Car (€32,000); NTL Communications (€10,663); and O2 (€13,947).

Director Gerry Byrne, of Milverton House, Carlow, is owed €35,000, according to the statement of affairs. He could not be contacted yesterday. David and Esther Crownborn, of Kilininy Court, Firhouse, Dublin, are owed €680,928.

Shareholder directors are the Crownborns, Mr Byrne, Brendan Hale and Sheila Hade. The last three directors are associated with the Victory Christian Fellowship, of Westland Row, Dublin.

Last year, independent TD Finian McGrath told the Dáil that employees at the company had approached him with allegations of exploitation, intimidation, breach of rights, dismissals, failure to pay staff, mandatory working, threats and sexual harassment. He said he had been told of incidents where members of staff, especially female employees, were asked to give managers "hugs".

Global Mobile Vision has a website but does not state on it where it is located. A document on the site indicates it may have a business in Delaware. On the website, the company says the Crownborns invested more than €5 million in its Dublin operation. It said some employees did not prove suitable and were let go during their training period. It also says the company experienced some early cash-flow problems.

"Since these trainee and disgruntled former employees did not have any legal or legitimate claims to make against Global Mobile Vision and against David and Esther, some of them decided to take their alleged claims to the alternative tabloid press and to some rather fringe or extremist politicians," the website states.

© The Irish Times

author by Una McCaffrey / Irish Times 10.03.06publication date Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A former employee of Global Mobile Vision Limited (GMV), the technology company that went into voluntary liquidation last year amid a number of allegations from staff, went to court yesterday to enforce an unfair dismissal award.

John Bates asked the county registrar to enforce the €9,000 award made in his favour in December by the Labour Relations Commission (LRC).

Mr Bates was also seeking costs in yesterday's case.
The €9,000 award had not been appealed by GMV and the company was not represented at yesterday's proceedings.

Mr Bates, who represented himself, was suspended from GMV in June last year. The company, which specialised in mobile streaming technology, ceased trading the same month.

Creditors of GMV heard earlier this week that it had left a deficiency of €1.46 million, including more than €160,000 owed to employees. The employees learned after the creditors' meeting that their claims should be paid by the Redundancy and Employers' Insolvency Fund.

Some 22 individuals from GMV won compensation awards at the LRC last year, although Mr Bates was the only employee to seek recourse for unfair dismissal due to trade union activity.

The county registrar, Susan Ryan, yesterday questioned Mr Bates's application because it referred to "Global Mobile Vision", as opposed to the company's official name, "Global Mobile Vision Limited". She said the word "Limited" needed to be added to the Rights Commissioner's determination for her to be able to enforce the award.

The registrar suggested the enforcement might be "academic" anyway, since GMV is in liquidation. This could mean there would be no financial incentive for the employees to come to court to enforce their claims.

It is thought, however, that Mr Bates is keen to enforce the award because it would then be officially registered against the company.

The matter was adjourned until March 23rd. The registrar said this should give Mr Bates time to have the determination amended by the LRC.

The Rights Commissioner at the LRC found in December that Mr Bates had been justified in seeking the support of a trade union (Siptu) after experiencing "serious difficulties" in being paid by GMV last year.

He also concluded that these union activities had been the main reason for his dismissal.

© The Irish Times

author by The Goon Showpublication date Mon Mar 13, 2006 19:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'IMPORTANT STATEMENT'

The awarding winning "Comedy Website of the Year"

http://globalmobilevision.com/ has just been SHUTDOWN.

But where does that leave the acclaimed comedy duo's nonsensical routine ??

Perhaps, they could go back to howling at the moon.

HooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooo !!!

author by PHARAOHpublication date Mon Mar 20, 2006 18:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Pyramid schemes may be disguised as games, chain letters, buying clubs, motivational companies, mail order operations, mobile phone content providers or investment organizations.

Some pyramid schemes call themselves multi-level marketing operations. The sale of legitimate products is what distinguishes multi-level operations from pyramids.

When the emphasis is on recruiting new members rather than selling something of value the organization is probably an illegal pyramid.

author by Eagleeyepublication date Tue May 02, 2006 01:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

813-777-6083 David
813-777-6086 Esther

They are now connected to KC the CEO at www.livingfuel.com

and Col Moore who works for the AirForce Base Intel dept of U.S Goverment

They have started a church off of Dale Mabry Hwy and Bearres Ave.

author by Barry Lenz - U.S. Department of Laborpublication date Fri May 05, 2006 18:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Eagleeye,

Are you a stateside 'mark' ?
If your employed by the Griftborns here in Tampa; you may well need my contact details?

U.S. Department of Labor
Employment Standards Administration Wage and Hour Division

Tampa District Office
US Dept. Of Labor
ESA Wage & Hour Division
Austin Laurel Building
4905 W. Laurel Avenue, Suite 300
Tampa, FL 33607-3838

Phone:
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

author by the Honey Grove Kidpublication date Fri May 05, 2006 19:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Oohh Brother Eagleeye,

Who's started the 'Big Store' off Dale Mabry Hwy and Bearres Ave,
David, Esther, K.C Craichy or Col. Moore?

What's the name of their place of worship?

“The Four Altars of Optimal Con.”
Roll up, Roll up, Services ever hour on the hour!!

author by Barney Fifepublication date Tue May 09, 2006 16:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Somebody needs to NIP IT , that right just NIP IT, NIP IT IN THE BUD!!!

author by The Riddlerpublication date Tue May 09, 2006 16:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Knock Knock,

Who's there?

Whoever said Eagleeye was a man?

Ever stop to consider maybe female?

Never put all your eggs in one basket

When you least expect it, the bell will ring

author by Forest Gumppublication date Wed May 10, 2006 02:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Just like Ma Ma said,

Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get.

Hang out with the Crownborns in Tampa and you never know what you will get

And that's all I got to say about that

author by bennypublication date Wed May 10, 2006 12:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors

hey Barney...

explain to me why this issue should be left to die.
what is it to you?

why do you think this thread is so long? i'm guessing that there are still a lot of people out there who wish to see the
scumborns pay for their actions. thats why i keep coming back, i check here to keep updated. it makes me smile to know that
people are still watching them, some day they might actually be made to pay for their actions, either at the hands of the authorities or otherwise, i don't care which, i know i'll be smiling either way.

benny

author by Buzzy McGrathpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 19:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Who ever is maintaining this string, could you please explain the rules of engagement.

Too many comments are been withdrawn over the last week that its becoming a disincentive to comment or perhaps your been hacked by the Tampa Mafia?? If you don't want me to whine & rant about 'Freedom of Speech Abuses at Indymedia', Please mail me for non public explaination at greyslate@yahoo.com

Appreciated,

Buzzy

author by Anonpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 19:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

See the editorial guidelines:
http://www.indymedia.ie/editorial

author by Victimpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 19:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

all I can say is that the mafia must be mad

author by Concernedpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 19:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

why would you remove all the recent posting and not all of them since last june?

author by Col. Moorepublication date Thu May 11, 2006 19:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Call me at Mac Dill Airforce base and I will tell you where the Crownborns are

author by KC - Living Fuelpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 20:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You can contact me at kc@livingfuel.org and I will tell you where the Crownborns are

author by Frankie Cpublication date Thu May 11, 2006 21:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Alex, Nobody Ever Calls You So Stop your neediness and keep your piffle comments to yourself !
GET OVER IT, CENTRE YOURSELF, MOVE ON!

author by Aunt Beepublication date Thu May 11, 2006 21:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Andy just told me that Braney and Otis caught the dynamite eating goat, and Goober and Floyd just got back with Opie from Fisihing.
Now Andy can begin working hard and fast on the Crownborn Capper to NIP IT IN THE BUD.
FBI ,SECRET SERVICE AND INTERPOL are eager always to help ol Andy.
The names on the list of potential x-spects
seem to be growing
Tommy Combs
K.C. at living fuel.com
Col. Moore
Randy White

author by lil D - top gunpublication date Mon May 15, 2006 10:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They are in Tampa, FL and they are living in an area of town called Carrollwood

author by Mrs. Wiley'spublication date Mon May 15, 2006 21:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Aunt Bee,

Are you a member of the Christian Activities Mayberry Forum? as you maybe confusing this GMV blog with it ? or perhaps there a connection with The Andy Griffith Show? is it yet another pretend contract that the Crownborns are claiming to streaming, is that it?? another bogus claim?

lil D,

How do you know they are in Carrollwood? If you have been burnt, and know their exact whereabouts 'blow da whistle' Call Stephen Hogue!

Related Link: http://www.tampagov.net/dept_Police/
author by The Larkinite Spypublication date Fri Aug 04, 2006 18:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It’s been a long and arduous road for the dozens of GMV employees who were never paid by the Crownborns. Instead they just received their long outstanding pay through LRC awards (payment of wages, terms of employment and unfair dismissals) and the Insolvency Fund from the Department of Trade, Enterprise and Employment.

As for the liquidations… they are still on going with one liquidator claiming David and Esther are no longer taking their calls…

So much for Ms.Mary Harney pending investigation and robust labour laws C**T!!!!

Time for a pint!

author by Bernpublication date Tue Sep 12, 2006 22:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Episode II: The BrownHorns Strike Back

Looks like they've finally crawled out of their holes and are now trying to push the scandal down from the top of the list of google search results.

http://crownbornirishbusinesstruth.com
http://www.crownbornfoundations.com
http://davidcrownbornbusinessreports.com
http://crownborntechnologyreports.com

And there are probably plenty more besides.. That gobshite *still* doesn't make any sense.

B.

author by Markpublication date Fri Sep 22, 2006 15:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Jesus their back!

Checking any of the above links you can't help but wonder what planet are David and Esther on?? It's certainly not of this Universe. What a mangling of the scriptures? Christian giving?? what da? Who are they fooling now?

God bless em!

Related Link: http://www.crownbornfoundations.com/
author by redjadepublication date Sun Jan 28, 2007 13:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Three directors of an Irish technology company with links to Christian evangelists in the US have been restricted from serving as directors for five years.

David and Esther Crownborn and their business associate Deborah King were restricted by Ms Justice Mary Finlay Geoghegan in the High Court last week for their role in the collapse of the Yard Broadcast Network, a Dublin software firm.

The three directors are also involved with a number other related companies that have gone out of business with multi-million debts in recent years.

David and Esther Crownborn were not in court last week and are believed to have relocated to the US. They are involved in a new business venture with a prominent US preacher, Paula White.'

more at
http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=IRELA...1.asp

.. .. ..

Paula White Ministries
http://www.paulawhite.org

yet, crownbornfoundations.com still operates
yet, crownbornfoundations.com still operates

Paula White - the new scam (or the newly scammed?)
Paula White - the new scam (or the newly scammed?)

author by Law Abiding Citizenpublication date Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

ALEX Fitz & Co now add Ms Justice Geoghegan to your list as well as...

Minister Martin, Joe Higgins and Finian McGrath T.D's,
75 ex-Employees, the LRC, SIPTU, National Newspapers, Bloggers, Creditors and
Revenue surely they weren't all conspiring against poor Davy, Eshter and Deborah.

Company distroyers, thieves, commies, racists, anarchists? I DONT THINK SO!!

Just decent law abiding citizens.

author by Lolapublication date Fri Feb 02, 2007 16:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ladies and Gents,

In response to the flood of rubbish being published by the Crownborns I have decided to hit back at the lovely comments they have made about the Irish, Ireland & workers etc.

Please check out our new blog and feel free to add your truths to the list!!!

http://crownbornrealtruth.blog.com/

author by Phoenix June 1, 2007 Page 43publication date Wed Aug 15, 2007 17:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

THE SENSITIVE world of private security proved to have more problems than expected for Terence Kinsella, who has just been disqualified as a director following the liquidation of one of his companies. Terry left a trail of creditors in his wake but, luckily, he seems to have found work elsewhere.

Kinsella is a director in Crime Force Security Services Ireland Ltd (CFS), which collapsed in December 2005 with Paul McCann appointed liquidator. In total, Kinsella and his son and co-director Jonathan Kinsella, racked up debts of €690,000 and, unsurprisingly, perhaps, the Revenue has been hit the hardest with a whopping bill outstanding of €590,000, despite CFS only trading for less than two years. The Kinsellaa owe a further €53,000 to their employees with NewsTalk, CocaCola and Golden Pages have also been left out of pocket.

According to the report to the creditors prepared by Kinsella Snr, the company’s demise the result of new regulations which were brought into the private security sector after he set up CFS. He wasn’t helped by a bad debtor of his own, however, namely Global Mobile Vision Ltd (GMV) which, he claims, owed close to €30,000. Fans of Goldhawk will remember GMV from allegations made in the Dáil by Tony Killeen of bullying, sexual harassment and unpaid wages (see The Phoneix 21/10/2005). Unfortunately for the Kinsellas, GMV collapsed last year owing almost €1.2m to unsecured creditors including CFS.

Thanks to the lack of any paper trail and some awkward questions about the whereabouts of the company’s assets, Paul Appleby in the ODCE decided to stick the boot into Kinsella on the foot of Paul McCann’s liquidation report. Judge Finlay Geoghegan duly banned him from serving as a director for seven years, two more than the norm.
Happily, Goldhawk is reliably informed that Kinsella is involved with another security company, Response 24/7 Assets Protection Ltd, which has a registered address in Kildare Town and where the listed directors are Nicola Brandon and Chris Braiden.

Kinsella “does some consultancy work” for Response, said a spokesman for the company.

terence_kinsella.jpg

Related Link: http://www.davidcrownborn.com/
author by tc - ex gmvpublication date Fri Jul 04, 2008 14:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors


The Rev. Crownborn and his Wife are up to new tricks over in Tampa.

Full story at:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/article510953.ece

author by Goldhawkpublication date Sat Aug 23, 2008 02:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Phoenix
Vol. 26, No.17
August 22-September 4, 2008
Page 45-46

HAVING LEFT these shores under less than pleasant circumstances, what a shame that Goldhawk's old preacher pals David and Esther Crownborn are back in hot water in their latest location: Ybor City, Florida.

The Crownborns have taken their religious crusade to sunnier climes following a less-than-successful period in Ireland, which saw them both restricted as directors last year following various colourful business collapses. Their latest sect is something called the Breakthrough City Church, which surfaced in Ybor City just a few months ago but the Crownborns have already attracted a flock of over 800 members, according to the St Petersburg Times.

Attempts by Breakthrough members to win further recruits have seen them targeting a local college. A spokesman confirmed to Goldhawk that the college has called the cops three times so far to get rid of overly-enthusiastic members, including one who followed a student into a classroom. Happily for the Crownborns, no one appears to have been charged with any offence.

Ybor's thriving gay district has also attracted the somewhat militant attention of Breakthrough members although Reverend David told the St Petersburg Times that his motto is "to be gentle and kind". Former employees of the Crownborn's in their collapsed Global Mobile Vision Ltd (GMV) may disagree, considering allegations against them mentioned in the Dáil included "bullying, sexual harassment, changes in terms and conditions of employment, unfair and constructive dismissal, non-provision of payslips, late payment of wages and issues concerning P35 and P60 documents" (see The Phoenix, 21/10/2005).

David Crownborn memorably accused then-Enterprise Minister Micheál Martin of letting "commies infiltrate government bodies to destroy the entrepreneurial spirit of Irish people and their investments in Irish employees".

The St Petersburg Times also mentions the Crownborns' unfortunate business record, which will be well-known to fans of Goldhawk. Along with the collapse of the British-registered GMV, the couple also ran Paracletes Technologies Ltd and YBN International Ltd, which both went into liquidation in 2005 with combined debts of €3.5m. This shortly followed the collapse of Yard Broadcast Network Ltd (YBN), which the couple had bought from Irish shareholders including Denis Desmond (see The Phoenix, 7/10/2005).

The Circuit Court even issued a bench warrant for Esther Crownborn (David was never registered as a director) when she failed to show up for civil proceedings while the Garda Fraud Squad also made some inquiries of the couple.

Maybe Ybor City will prove less stressful.

Related Link: http://www.thephoenix.ie/phoenix/welcome.do
author by snappy - professionalpublication date Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Disgaceful that these snake oild merchants can abuse our system and walk away scott free leaving the taxpayer with the bills.

Demonstartes the weakness in our business administartaion and government systems

Crownborn is a lying fraudster

author by Yenra leepublication date Tue Aug 05, 2014 20:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I moved to Tampa, FL in '09. That's where I met the Crownborns. They seemed nice at first and always had nice words. I got to know them better. They made promises they couldn't keep and always seemed so secretive. I decided to be a nice person and help them out with their "business". I'm still paying for it and I never got anything for it but regret.

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