Shell to Sea - letter in response to Shell Propaganda

by John Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:20

Its you that's guilty of spin and lies. You keep repeating that 73 per cent of the gas is going to Britain and Europe. No matter how many times you're corrected on that, you keep repeating it. Its poppycock. Its lies. Ireland receives the great bulk of its gas from Britain and Europe. All that the Corrib field will do is to allow us to cut our imports of gas from those places by about half. We'll still be importing half our gas from Britain and Europe even when the Corrib field is at full production, not exporting to them. Presumably your leftist counterparts in those countries are writing similar letters to their local papers complaining about their gas being piped to Ireland. The Corrib field will not provide a surplus for export. Its far too small. What part of that simple fact do you find difficulty in understanding? Britain and Europe can produce a thousand times the amount of gas from their own gas fields that Ireland will be able to produce from the Corrib field. All of the gas from Corrib will be going into the Irish national gas grid. They said the same thing when the Kinsale field was being developed, that all the gas would go abroad. None of it ever did, not one cubic foot. Why should Europe want to import the minuscule amounts of gas that Corrib can provide (for which a pipeline would have to be built to N. Ireland, then Scotland, then down through England and eventually to France) when gas fields sitting off their coast in the North Sea and the Mediterraenean Sea can produce a thousand times that amount of gas. It would be an economic nonsense.

by Limerick Lady Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:51

John, even if you are right and all the gas stays in Ireland (sold at full market value by a forign multinational to Bird Gais mind you) does that make you think the devolopment should go ahead? The litany of problems associated with the project on social, environmental, safety, economic and class grounds doesn't leave much on the table for any of the stakeholders bar the multinationals. Couldn't it have been so much better for all of us citizens of this island?

by S2S Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:52

Do you really believe there are 'minuscule amounts' of gas in the Corrib field?

by IF Mon Sep 19, 2005 08:52

I agree with John. To continue to state that Ireland will export gas is just complete garbage and only undermines any credibility you have as it belies any understanding of economics. Ireland's energy (electricuty in particular) deman is such that we will remain a net importer of gas for many years. Given the lack of success offshore Ireland, this in fact is likely to be forever. Corrib is a very small, marginal discovery and to state otherwise and talk of piping gas to other coutris is laughable and actially just stupid.

by Northsider Mon Sep 19, 2005 19:03

John and In Favour will use any argument possible to undermine those who object to the SEPIL pipeline being installed in Rossport in its current design. Before you accuse people of lying or misinformation, please produce some documentary evidence that the gas will or will not be exported, or evidence to back up any of your other arguments. If you are so convinced of your argument, why won't you tell us why? And furthermore, please explain how selling gas abroad or not justifies the pipeline design being used to bring the gas from the Corrib well to shore? They are entirely separate issues.

by local individual Wed Sep 21, 2005 21:01

I dont know much about the corrib gas project but i do know that the gas out there in our bay is not going to be used for our benefit, we will have no benefits as such from it and John yes we all need gas and oil to survive but at what cost? this pipeline is far from safe as what Shell will have you believe, if only the distance from some houses to the proposed laying of the pipeline its ridiculous. Is there anyone out there with an neutral insight into this project please please reply and explain all this gas and shell!!!!

by Erris person Thu Sep 22, 2005 14:47

IF (aka In Favour) can't decide whether it's important that the Corrib gas be brought ashore in Ireland or not, exported or not, as he's just said that the Corrib is such a miniscule find. If it's miniscule, why argue every corner possible to justify its being brought ashore?

by IF Thu Sep 22, 2005 15:19

Corrib Technical Advisory Group To Accept Written Submissions And Hold Two Day Public Hearing In Mayo



Dublin, Thursday 22nd September 2005


The Corrib Technical Advisory Group (TAG) is putting in place a consultation process to allow written submissions to be made to Advantica, the company appointed to carry out the safety review of the Corrib Upstream Onshore Pipeline. A two-day public hearing will also be held locally late in October.

The Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Noel Dempsey T.D., is conscious that people who have views relating to the safety of the pipeline should have the opportunity to have those views considered by the consultants undertaking the safety review. Views are now being invited from local residents, communities and any interested party during the period of the review. In order for the consultants to be able to take full account of views expressed, early written submissions are encouraged.

All written submissions to this public consultation will be published on the Department’s website.

Written submissions already received by the Minister’s Technical Advisory Group since it was established on 10th August are being considered by the consultants, therefore re-submission is not necessary.

Submissions can be sent by post, by fax or by e-mail, or hand delivered to:

Corrib Technical Advisory Group
Office of the Chief Technical Advisor
Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources
29 - 31 Adelaide Road
Dublin 2

fax: 01 678 2659
e-mail: Corrib.TAG@dcmnr.gov.ie

Closing date for written submissions is 5.30p.m. Friday, 28th October 2005.

Advantica are visiting the Corrib Site today as part of their work.

The Technical Advisory Group and its consultants will also hold a two day public hearing in locally late in October. The public hearings will be chaired by John Gallagher SC.

Following consideration of the consultants’ Interim Report and the written and oral submissions received, a final report will be prepared for the Minister.