SAVE TARA myspace Causes campaign achieving high ranking

by ex Tara campaiger Thu Jun 05, 2008 21:48

You are right, AK 47, the campaign to stop the motorway is hopelessly lost and campaign-internal infighting has a lot to do with it. That's why I am an ex Tara campaigner and no longer active.
But wouldn't it be a success for us if UNESCO/ICOMOS would refuse to designate Tara a world heritage site on grounds that the landscape has been destroyed by the construction of that motorway? Looking at the case from that perspective, I think the people who launched this petition and the latest myspace site did the right thing to drive a final farewell nail into the coffin of our corrupt government.

by AK-47 Thu Jun 05, 2008 21:18

Perhaps the people posting here are living on a different planet but what is the point in all this sudden and frenetic activity on behalf of the SaveTara/Tarawatch campaigns?
Have none of them visited Meath or Tara recently? Have they not seen the ruined and destroyed sites, the bridges being built in the Valley? The huge track snaking through the Valley?
What will UNESCO or ICOMOS do now? Designate a motorway a WHS?
Another petition, more cyber-based nonsense.
The Tara battle is over and the Government won - mainly because of the lack of unity in the campaign but that does not really matter now.
The only thing that could stop this now is for Brian Cowen to have a Pauline conversion or for the whole NDP to be abandoned.
This Government will not back down - if only due to their arrogance and pride and their inability to say that they have made a mistake.
The all suffer the Bertie-disease - its all someone else's fault.
Give up guys, you lost, you fought a bad fight and this is the result.

by A.. - anti capatalista!! Thu Jun 05, 2008 16:24

Myspace is owned by Rupurt Murdock,
There are people who work for Mr Murdock to cheak out what is popular and craete markets/ trends/ fasion/ culture around it, so the fat cats can sell us back what we like in a new prepackaged deal.
Now because of Myspace/ face book/ Google. the market researchers don't have to create markets anymore, they only have to streamline what the status quo are posting up on their myspace page or searching for on Google.
I highly recomend boycotting thesee corprate tools, and not using the masters tools to take down the masters house, but stopping these corporations/ governmemts (same thing really) in the real world.

I'll put two questions to the Tara myspace group, if you do get 60,000 "friends" on the myspace page, will this stop those in Power from distroying Tara? and will you wear your save tara t-shirt with pride that you bought for €30 on grafton street?

Tara is being distroyed in the real world, not cyberspace, lets fight in the real world, if we fight in a world that doesn't exist, what do hope to save?

by ec Thu Jun 05, 2008 14:26

“Essentially, with the Internet, capitalism gifts the masses with a false commons where people can work, off the clock, creating information and relationships that the ruling class can enclose, appropriate, commodify, and sell back to us at a later date. It’s a way of letting the process of primitive accumulation work as a perpetual, and because of the stagnation of the economies in the advanced capitalist countries, vital, supplement to the mechanism of exploitation, and one that should be seen alongside the other forms of primitive accumulation that are occurring right now and are, for sure, much more important: the direct seizure of Iraqi resources, the copyrighting and commodifying of the material of our bodies, and most obviously, the accumulation by dispossession that is occurring in Africa, in China, in Latin America, as capitalism pushes to its limits and attempts to expunge from the earth any trace of commonly-held land.”

http://jasperbernes.blogspot.com/2008/05/liberalizing-i....html

by James Byrne - www.CraobhCrua.org Tue Jun 03, 2008 14:30

I like the idea. Well done

Simple and effective

by bob Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51

why not give over the majority of your post to corporate advertising for two well-dodgy networking sites?!! It's not just the ownership of them, or the privacy issues they've been challenged on, but it's also the fact that the government spends a lot of resources trying to map who knows who in the activist scene, who phones or emails who and how much, with key word interception too, to figure out how things are organised and how information flows. If you sign up to facebook, you just hand it to them on a platter, and give them access to all your private details too!

For info on http://www.activistsecurity.org/ go there and have a read

Stop spending your time on the internet, and get out there and take action!