Medical officials: Gaza runs out of medicine

by Conor. M - S.E.E.D Mon Dec 29, 2008 15:03

Israel wont allow medical supplies into Palestine when it runs out but, it will supply the Greek authorities with pepper spray and tear gas when they run out.

It is a shame and a travesty of justice. How long will the international community stand by and watch?

by Moshe Mon Dec 29, 2008 15:46

Where is your outrage at the murderous attacks by Hamas Qassam rocket teams who are bombarding nearly a quarter of a million innocent Israeli men women and children on a daily basis?
Is it because they are Jews?

Why have the Irish left allied themselves with the Islamist fundamentalist fascists of Hamas who have sworn to destroy Israel and liquidate the Jewish race?

The Palestinians can have peace if they recognise the State of Israel, stop attacking Israeli civilians, disarm the 20,000 strong Hamas terrorist army and dismantles the infrastructure of terror.

Israel withdrew from Gaza, removed the Jewish settlements and gave the Palestinians democratic elections.

What did the Palestinians do? They elected Hamas who make no secret of their desire to destroy Israelis and kill all Jews.

The Palestinians are reaping the whirlwind.

The storm will stop when they stop attacking Israel.

It is cannot be more simpler.

by Sean Og Mon Dec 29, 2008 15:46

SKY NEWS and BBC 24 news showed yesterday and today lorry loads of medical and other supplies going across border into Gaza area .

International agencies are involved in this traffic as well as private Arab Palestinian merchants
so they said

by Moshe Mon Dec 29, 2008 16:52

Don't even think about trying to label concerned Irish people as anti-semantic. We are aligning ourselves with the Palestinian people because we can see through the black propaganda, we can relate to their suffering and because we have morals.

by francis hughes Mon Dec 29, 2008 19:37

Can anyone tell me, Do Hamas say they want to kill all Jews? Im All in favour for a secular Free Palastine , can anyone tell me is this true. Its not gonna stop me protesting aganst the horrible atrocities carried out by tthe Israeli state but theres a few guys namely moshe claiming that they do. Or is it the case that Hamas supporters may say Jews Out, as in Jewish colonial planters on their land ; as people here often cried 'Brits Out',not in a hatred towards ordinary British people but the British soldiers and their imperialist cronies resident here.

by Mike Novack Mon Dec 29, 2008 21:15

"as in Jewish colonial planters on their land"

"Colonial planters" from WHERE? What planet?

Your example is actually pretty useful. Those "British settlers" in your country have been there for some hundreds of years. So you think that makes them "original inhabitants" now? And if you Irish want to move back from wherever in the world you have been dispersed to and reoccupy your country that makes you "colonial planters"?

(though actually the "Scots" who were planted upon you were originally Irish if you go back far enough).

The proper argument against "Zionism" would be "too bad, you lost control of your land long ago, no taking it back now". Or are you denying the historical/archeological evidence? The Jews aren't a "European people" and you Europeans keep reminding them of that fairly often.

by Young John Mon Dec 29, 2008 22:04

"Our message to the Israelis is this: we do not fight you because you belong to a certain faith or culture. Jews have lived in the Muslim world for 13 centuries in peace and harmony; they are in our religion "the people of the book" who have a covenant from God and His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be respected and protected. Our conflict with you is not religious but political. We have no problem with Jews who have not attacked us - our problem is with those who came to our land, imposed themselves on us by force, destroyed our society and banished our people."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jan/31/comment.isr...nians

by Sean Og Tue Dec 30, 2008 16:23

It may not be the KORAN but its the Hamas statement of intent

Hamas Charter/Covenant (via Yale University Avalon Project)

Here’s the URL for the whole thing: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp.

The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). (Article Seven)

Hamas arrogate to themselves the last word about how Palestine should be disposed of:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement. (Article Eleven)

Hamas will block any peace talks etc.

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?

This self-appointed minority reserve the right to know what the Palestinian people know, and reject peace for them.
"But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120).
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. (Article Thirteen)

The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.

It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Moslem generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis. (Article 14)

Secularism completely contradicts religious ideology. Attitudes, conduct and decisions stem from ideologies.

That is why, with all our appreciation for The Palestinian Liberation Organization - and what it can develop into - and without belittling its role in the Arab-Israeli conflict, we are unable to exchange the present or future Islamic Palestine with the secular idea. The Islamic nature of Palestine is part of our religion and whoever takes his religion lightly is a loser. (Article 27)

In the end, Hamas are absurd. Their paranoia prevents Palestinians from working for peace.

The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion. (Article 28)