Call for meeting of grassroots education workers

by Mark C - ASTI + CCFE (Pers. Caps.) Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:34

I'm with Andrew. I don't think the notice hints at it being exclusive by any means. Myself and my wife and hopefully going to be there (and another friend -a montessori teacher). Whatever about myself, my wife is certainly not anarchist but still looking forward to it.

Mark.

by Andrew Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:23

The purpose of the meeting is not to exclude anyone but rather to create a space where those of us who agree with the Grassroots Principles (a wider group than anarchists) and work in education can come together to discuss responses. We fully expect to also be involved in both broader meetings (as the one Pat advertises above, in fact one on the people involved in that is also involved in setting up this meeting) and if anything more importantly in the unions that organise in education. Tactical differences might emerge but otherwise consider this as a way of mobilising additional people rather than a 'rival' to whatever else is emerging, I know that's how I'd look at it.

by pat c Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:05

Public Meeting Of Trade Unionists In Public Sector .

Resist The Pension Levy !

ICTU must call a One Day National Stoppage to begin a real campaign!

11.30 to 2.30pm,Saturday, Feb 14,
Davenport Hotel, Merrion Square, Dublin 2

More info at: http://www.indymedia.ie/article/91053

by Peter Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:21

Think bringing together people as education workers is great idea. Dont understand the fact that as I'm not an anarchist that I'm excluded as an educational worker in such an initiative.
It seems crazy to me that there is a set of hoops to jump through before you can get involved
People should get involved in all these initiative and protests.
See you all at the protest at Anglo Irish today.

by JK - - Sun Feb 08, 2009 21:58 teachersunited09 at gmail dot com

Make those who created the crisis pay for the mess!

Protest at the Pay Cut in the Public Service...Make those who created the crisis pay for the mess!

Bail out for banks...pay cuts for workers!

Protest @ 4.30pm, Anglo Irish Bank Offices, Stephen's Green
Monday 9th February 2009

Assembly at Stephen's Green, opp Shelbourne Hotel, before protest at Anglo Irish Bank

All welcome- bring placcards/banners

Organised by Teachers United

by Blacbloc Sat Feb 07, 2009 03:52

Six government ministers refused to state whether they had shares in Anglo Irish. If there is a conflict of interest between them and the bank, this government should be brought down in flames. Ryle Dwyer in today's Irish examiner - this must be the end of the road for Fianna Fail:

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-q...1.asp

by Blacbloc Sat Feb 07, 2009 03:03

Here's the business report which described how Ireland had 30K millionaires:

http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=565&fArtic...32509

My earlier post was unclear. The bulk of the country's wealth is cocentrated in the top 20%

This report from 2007 - pre economic crisis but already warning of huge debt buildups:

http://www.anphoblacht.com/news/detail/20118

Beneficiaries of the bailout? This lot should be rounded up:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/building-on-....html

by 1st of May - WS Editorial committee Fri Feb 06, 2009 13:12

A venue has been obtained for the meeting. It will take place in the Teachers Club which is at 35 Parnell square at 2pm on Saturday 28th February.

by Teachers United - Teachers United Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:45

Protest at the Pay Cut in the Public Service...Make those who created the crisis pay for the mess!

Protest @ 4.30pm, Anglo Irish Bank Offices, Stephen's Green
Monday 9th February 2009

All welcome

Organised by Teachers United

by Mark C - ASTI + CCFE (Pers. Caps.) Thu Feb 05, 2009 16:32

This sounds like a great idea and a very worthwhile project. I wish you the best with it, and hope to get involved myself.

There is a similar project in New York called CORE - Collective of Radical Teachers - http://nycore.org/ (there's probably many more, but I'm not sure of them).

There's also an interesting conference "A National Conference on Education for Liberation" that I was asked to submit a paper for, but time and money doesn't permit in Houstan, Texas this summer being organised by the Education for Liberation group http://www.edliberation.org/

See http://www.freemindsfreepeople.org/ for more details.

Their aims are:
· Connecting local community efforts to national education for liberation activities.

· Expanding our network of education liberators by building relationships that cross barriers of geography, race, age, class, gender, sexual orientation, profession and other identities.

· Showcasing a broad spectrum of strategies, including arts, popular education, organizing, dialogue and scholarship, and their related impacts.

· Acting as a catalyst for the continued development of a social movement around education for liberation.

by Worker Thu Feb 05, 2009 15:48

I appreciate the grassroots principles, and very familiar with them. However, from my experience these 'principles' are too often used to invite people into a programme that is implicitly anarchist even if it does not say it on the tin.

Like yourself, I am interested in getting involved in this network/ campaign if it genuinely is open to a) diversity of ideas and b) diversity of mechanisms for organisation. If it is simply anarchism dressed up in the grassroots charter then I would not be particularly interested. It is being organised by an anarchist group so I think my concerns are well founded.

Despite this, I think it is a great idea, and if a genuinely open-tolerant approach to ideas/strategies that go against the grain of WSM- Anarchism but remain within the broader principles of left-libertarianism then, as an education worker, I think it could be a success.

by Darren C Thu Feb 05, 2009 15:45 offensieftegenracisme at yahoo dot co dot uk

"The intention as is stated above is to open this up to anyone who works in education and who agrees with the Grassroots principles. This is an organising basis that has been used for the dozen Grassroots Gathering as well as Grassroots Against the War and Dublin Grassroots Network of Mayday 2004 fame. This is broader then those who might self-describe as anarchists but narrower than 'democratic', a label which after all Bat O'Keefe and Tony O Reilly would happily claim."

Well that rules me out as I'm neither an anarchist or a libertarian. I would prefer if radical workers in the education sector could unite on a sound political basis - like sharing a perspective of building rank-and-file networks in the unions against the bureaucracy and education cuts - rather than on an agreement of an organisational model. Neverthless, I wish you well and hope something bigger can come out of it.

by Another worker Thu Feb 05, 2009 14:56

The intention as is stated above is to open this up to anyone who works in education and who agrees with the Grassroots principles. This is an organising basis that has been used for the dozen Grassroots Gathering as well as Grassroots Against the War and Dublin Grassroots Network of Mayday 2004 fame. This is broader then those who might self-describe as anarchists but narrower than 'democratic', a label which after all Bat O'Keefe and Tony O Reilly would happily claim.

In the sense of an open door broad organisation for eduction workers we'd suggest also joining one of the unions that organise education workers (if your not already a member). I'd also say if someone takes the initiative of calling a meeting for everyone in education I'd be interested in turning up, I'm just not convinced its the best use of effort right now and in any case couldn't afford the cost of booking Croke Park.

Grassroots Gathering principles

The Grassroots Gathering aims towards a network which would:

- Be based on the principle that people should control their own lives and work together as equals, as part of how we work as well as what we are working towards.

- Within the network this means rejecting top-down and state-centred forms of organisation (hierarchical, authoritarian, expert-based, Leninist etc.) We need a network that’s open, decentralised, and really democratic.

- Call for solutions that involve ordinary people controlling their own lives and having the resources to do so: the abolition, not reform, of global bodies like the World Bank and WTO, and a challenge to underlying structures of power and inequality.

- Organise for the control of the workplace by those who work there.

- Call for the control of communities by the people who live there.

- Argue for a sustainable environmental, economic and social system, agreed by the people of the planet.

- Working together in ways which are accessible to ordinary people, particularly women and working-class people, rather than reproducing feelings of disempowerment and alienation within our own network.

by Worker Thu Feb 05, 2009 14:27

This is a really good idea, and very interested in getting involved. However, and I dont mean this to be too bi-partisan, but is the intention to make it explicitly 'anarchist'?

I dont think this would be a good idea. Perhaps a meeting could be arranged that is explicitly democratic and allow those who are serious about building a campaign amongst education workers to determine how it should be organised.