Czech ex prime minister admits his nude photo in "El Pais" : leftwing plot

by Get Real Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:13

"If you vote rightwing in the EU election you support these people" What's the political point being made here?

by peep o' day boy Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:48

It's all the equivalent of What the Butler Saw - prurience and scandal among the upper crust is what really sells newspapers.

by old codger - Pensioner Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:52

We can sometimes make mistakes, that looks like Paul Williams at the Garda conference.

by iosaf Sat Jun 06, 2009 13:26

I've been collating and disseminating news reports and analysis on Berlusconi for almost a decade now. I chose the author name "prurience" for this series of 4 articles the first of which outlined the editorial of the Italian Roman Catholic newspaper's reaction to Mrs Berlusconi's open letter lamenting his "cavorting with young women & telling him he was unwell" entitled "Politics & Showbusiness a deadly embrace".

In the opening chapter of Erich Fromm's 1941 book (and first published in English) "Fear of Freedom", the by then former member of the marxist "Frankfurt Institute for Social Research" asked the question of his readership why the peoples of Italy and Germany had chosen to abandon their liberties in favour of fascist regimes. A choice which was to be followed by the peoples of Hungary, Romania and Croatia. It was to be the central theme of that work in which he attempted a psychological analysis of the mechanisms which we may consider as a widespread reaction to Berlusconi's style, politics, regime, power & bunch of friends when reading the comment articles in both European and American media today.

The English Times focuses on a friend of their correspondent in Rome's comment. Lucky Him! and then opines that the Italian public are so conditioned by Berlusconi's TV channels and media that they are; unaware that the real implications of the showman's act, oblivious to the censorship and manipulation of dissent within their state & finally so enamoured with the scandal and sexiness of the media show are thus incapable of using their franchise to exercise proper or correct political choices at the ballot box.

Berlusconi in the last fortnight as I qouted then said on TV (his TV) that Mussolini had a nucleus of blackshirts I have dancing girls, thank god that's a bit better . Not everyone in his nucleus is a dancing girl or sexually attractive TV presenter on one of his channels. Like any host he balances his parties which it appears at tax-payers' expense are organised every weekend in Sardinia with a roughly equal list of invites of males and females. Perhaps one of those guests is his fellow politician, the mayor of Rome, who defeated the leader of the socialists at the last election and was welcomed into office by neonazi groups giving the fascist salute chanting duce! obviously please with his announced intention to expel all gypsies and Romanians from the city forthwith. Perhaps on his guests is the mayor of Naples who for three years has been unable to provide a sanitation service because countering the Camora Mafia is beyond his abilties whereas allowing a pogrom in 2008 of gypsy camps was.

So I hope you see this TV doesn't just rot voting minds - it works in tandem with the loss of Liberty.

I first used the word harem which has now been used over a hundred times by European newspapers to describe Berlusconi's supply of attractive women to whom his fellow politicians & businessmen are invited long ago when describing the parties arranged by another leader of Europe's rightwing, Nicholas Sarkozy. I remember disseminating the reports that Aznar the former right wing cryptofascist premier of Spain was in fact the mystery father of Sarkozy's former justice minister and current top list candidate for the EU parliament Raquel Dati. That defamation "stop this scandal story law suit" never transpired from Aznar's lawyers by the way.

This is not about sex selling newspapers. El Pais doesn't sell copy through sex and the stories were distributed through its free for view website.

This is about power and corruption.

The evidence of corruption is not the hint that a cryptofascist ex premier of the Czech Republic the land where most European porn is made got his dick sucked in a Sardinian garden last Christmas.

The evidence of corruption is not in the open letter written by Mrs Berlusconi.

The evidence of corruption was heard and ruled upon :-

19 May 2009, an Italian court ruled that Berlusconi had bribed a British lawyer, David Mills, by paying him $600,000 to give false testimony on his behalf. Mills was convicted in February, though Berlusconi was protected by parliamentary-immunity legislation passed his your government.

But of course by then the man who would someday be President rather than Prime minister of Italy complete with extended executive powers on the style of the French Presidency, Silvio Berlusconi had passed laws making him immune to corruption charges.

At this very moment the Italian people are voting for the EU parliament, their polling lasts two days and so they will also vote tomorrow on Sunday. That is their own peculiar way , I once wrote there are various ways you can organise a state; one party like China, two party like the USA or UK, dictatorship or simply the worst way - the Italian way. I suppose having two days polling would give them in desperate times a few extra hours to fix the counts. But these are not desperate times. They are content to lose their liberty. & in & out of that lair, mansion, villa or den on the island of Sardinia go & come many politicians & businessmen who would really love to learn and use the formula.

by iosaf Sat Jun 06, 2009 14:58

First off a correction of the last comment, Aznar is believed to be the mystery father of leading French rightwinger and former Sarkozy girlfrield / mistress, Rachida Dati's baby not as I wrote the mystery father of Raquel Dati herself. This of course happened after a Sarko party where they were introduced and Celia demanded (it is said) that Sarko see her rival serviced and off the scene. c/f "Aznar denies getting French Justice minister pregnant (it was ETA)" http://www.indymedia.ie/article/88950
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From "The Guardian" : Silvio Berlusconi fights back over photos of topless guests at villa

• Legal action against El País for publishing pictures
• Guests were bathing in private Jacuzzi, says PM

Silvio Berlusconi and his associates mounted a vigorous damage-limitation exercise yesterday after the publication of photographs by a Spanish newspaper showing naked and semi-naked guests, including a former Czech prime minister, at his villa on Sardinia.

His lawyer announced legal action against El País, which released five of the pictures, and threatened a lawsuit against "whoever republishes the photographs in Italy". One shows two young women topless, one wearing a tanga. Another is of a naked man standing by a swimming pool in what appeared to be a state of sexual arousal.

Mirek Topolanek, the former Czech prime minister who was Berlusconi's guest last year, confirmed in Prague he was the man depicted. But added "It is clearly also the result of a photo-montage."

Berlusconi told a radio interviewer : "These are people who are bathing in a private Jacuzzi in a private room". But his account was hard to square with the images on El País's website, in which all the subjects are clearly outdoors. A Jacuzzi is visible only in one photograph.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/05/silvio-berl...tures

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We soon know who these people are : The complete passenger list of all the flights to Sardinia has been requested as evidence
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Of course the anti-Berlusconi camp have already suggested that the photos of Berlusconi at the 18th birthday party of Noemi, celebrated 5 months after her visit to the villa, were doctored by photoshop as well. c/f "As Mr B defends himself from "media attack" people ask are the photos faked?" sauce for the gander & sauce for the goose http://www.indymedia.ie/article/92206#comment251249 That week the rightwing Spanish press provided the most detailed examination of the photos arguing they were fake. The Italians are a hypocritical people who don't allow topless sunbathing, censor pornography, complicate contraception and morning after pills and fail in most gender politics stakes. Indeed Berlusconi himself in 2008 described Spain as being ruled by a leftwing coalition of feminists, queers & libertines. So the prurience and prudery of these two Mediterranean rivals who share so much common history, eat the same food, enjoy the same climate and speak relatively mutually intelligible languages very often raises questions as to their fundamental social differences. Whereas one bred the mafia culture of corruption and welcomed Europe's first fascist regime the other bred European anarchy, elected the most progressive republic of the early 20th century and then endured Europe's longest fascist dictatorship. "El Pais" the "centre-left" largest circulation newspaper in Spain was founded by one of the country's most influentials businessmen and moguls. It has since its foundation in 1976 built a global reputation and both The International Herald Tribune and New York Times reproduce weekly selected English translations of its issues. From an auspicious start during the trouble fraught "transition to democracy" it championed social liberal values and then played an important role in the exposure of the state sponsored death squads run by the then socialist government "GAL" against ETA despite those revelations leading to the election of the Aznar regime. Thereafter it played a pivotal role in the events of the March 11th bombing and was for a brief period alone amongst the commercial media of the Spanish state in questioning the official version of the then Aznar government in blaming the worst terrorist bombing in recent European history on ETA rather than Al Qaeda on the eve of the 2004 general election.

It has never been sucessfully sued for defamation & its media group count on enough financial resources and social support in the global Spanish speaking world to take on Berlusconi.

So........... Maybe Mr Berlusconi wins in his courts, despite routinely publically describing Italian judges as idiots & insane, for the good reason he has given himself levels of immunity only seen in middle eastern monarchic states (just like harems come to think of it) & also is a dab hand at bribing witnesses - But the question may now be answered :-

¿can he win a case in a Spanish or European court?

You be the jury -

do these pictures and this story building on the open letter and all the past you know about amount to a slur on the character of Silvio Berlusconi?


We can't stop him being prime minister of Italy, obviously.
But it is Europe's responsibility to stop him ever being Italy's president.

by Bazooka Joe Sun Jun 07, 2009 16:54

Thank's for the nudie pic PrurienC but I don't understand, "If you vote rightwing in the EU election you support these people". Which people? Ones with a penis? The ones who take peeping tom photographs or the people who publish images of genetalia?(any children here?)

Since you published this on Friday June 05 at 23.31hrs when the poles(no pun intended) had closed for the latest European Elections I assume when you refer to the future i.e. "if you vote", in reference to European Elections you are referring to the Lisbon rerun referendum?

Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek whose erect penis we are shown, while his face is hidden (!) is a 'Yes' voter, so I will be glad to agree with you: "Down with that sort of thing Ted!!"

by Knight Wed Jun 10, 2009 06:09

I think they are in 21st century, they adopt the policy of "Work Hard" and "Play" the cock "Hard" as well ! Well done !