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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11Will eirigi work with Bree against the treaty in Sligo?
If we want to stave off a return to the Eighties, to wholesale poverty, desperation, even mass hunger, we will have to vote Yes, much as I hate to.
I voted No in a very different country last time out -
wish I had that luxury now !
How will voting yes stave off all of that erasmus?
Dear Erasmus,
Your eloquent but conceptually discordant message deserves a few questions - you can hopefully reflect and provide us all with some responses.
(1) What and who changed this country of (y)ours ?
(2) What has been the specific political and economic effect of the actions of Commissioner McCreevy who consistently fought in the Commission against proper regulation of the financial institutions?
(3) Apart from greed and corruption, consistent traits of the capitalist system, can you name some of those responsible for the crash? Are they still in place for example?
(4) Lisbon says competition is the key to progress and prosperity....comment please
(5) Lisbon in its 475 plus pp of drivel has exactly 6 lines on climate change.....have you read them? Comment please.
(6) Cowen, in one of his dizzy moments, is quoted as having said that the No to Lisbon 54% plus is responsile for the crisis....comment please. And please add a footnote on Gilmore's statement, immediately after June 12th, that Lisbon is dead!!
(7) Finally we would need a bit more clarity on how a (desired by you) YES next time round would help our people defend themselves against job losses, loss of income and confidence to the political system.....
Looking forward to your responses
"Lisbon says competition is the key to progress and prosperity....comment please."
Competition is the proven best way of improving almost anything.
WITHOUT competition the people of East Germany had to put up with the Trabant car.....One of the most laughed-at and derided pieces of engineering ever devised.
Capitalist West Germany was producing Mercs, Audis, VWs, BMWs at the same time...
Those cars were Bye Words for quality and reliability.
Skoda cars from Communist Checkoslovakia were the butt of jokes as well.
Why?
Lack of competition meant that the manufacturers were monopolists ..throwing any kind of rubbish at the unfortunate motorists.
One does not improve one's performance in a race ,OR IN ANYTHING ELSE, unless someone else is hot on one's heels.
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Helen, is Bree going to campaign against this referendum do you know? Has he made any comment on it?
http://www.people.ie/english1.html
I read Patricia McKennas statement on the peoples movement website and thought it sounded familiar. Just checked the Sligo Champion and seen that Bree has a statement about Lisbon. Four paragraphs. Three of which are word for word for what McKenna said.
Talk about blatant plagarism. Can he not think for himself?
Its not online yet. Will post it up when it comes online
Have just read both articles Mary. You are right. Declans statement is amost the exact same as Patricias. Is that deliberate?
I voted No the last time and intend to vote No again this time! In my opinion there has not been any great advantage to Ireland from being a member of the EU! Perhaps if we had retained our fisheries thing might be different now; at least we would have had something to fall back on!
If you look at the figures from our Department of Trade we don't really gain any monetary value from membership; despite what the IBEC website would like people to believe by quoting incorrect figures! When Imports are offset against Exports on advantage of about €10 billion seems like a pittance after more than thirty years of membership!
Anyway if we lose our hard won Democracy we lose everything!
Lisbon 2 – Democracy EU-Style
30/06/09
The vision of a unified Europe first articulated in the Schuman Declaration of May 9th 1950, to the effect that “the pooling of coal and steel production should immediately provide for the setting up of common foundations for economic development as a first step in the federation of Europe”, is the vision that has guided the European project since its inception. We must be under no illusion that it is the consolidation of political power in a centralized, ‘free market’ based, neo-liberal Europe that the Eurocrat establishment has as its primary objective. All European treaties throughout the last 60 years have been directed at progressing towards the achievement of this objective. Essentially this is what Lisbon 1 was about. It is what Nice 1 and 2 were about. The particulars of the ‘assurances’ or ‘guarantees’ agreed at the EU summit of June 19th notwithstanding, this is what the coming Lisbon 2 is about also.
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