OscailtSimon Bolivar exhumed - Time to raise O'Connell / Wolfe Tone from the grave?Today the Venezuelan state continued its riveting bicentinial celebrations of its war for independence from the Spanish empire led by the "liberator" Simon Bolivar by exhuming his remains in what has been officially termed a respectful and patriotic operation supervised by Venezuelan flags, Venezuelan military and no less than 50 Venezuelan scientific experts in forensic anthropology, archaeological preservation & such like if not so.
Even though dental records did not exist a little less than 200 years ago, there has been little doubt that the reliquary opened, so that it may be "preserved for posterity" in the words of state minister for Justice, Tarek El Aissami, did indeed hold the remains of Bolivar.
Breaking news: Italian MP, Sgarbi denounces the Statistical Fraud on COVID-19. The speech of the Member of Parliament Vittorio Sgarbi in the session of the Italian Camera, Meeting no. 331 of Friday 24, April, 2020. Vittorio Sgarbi, denounces the closure of 60% of the businesses for 25,000 COVID-19 Deaths, of which the National Institute of Health says 96.3% died NOT of COVID-19 but of other pathologies. That means only 925 have died of the virus. 24,075 have died of other things.2010-07-17T12:14:45+00:00Indymedia Irelandimc-ireland@lists.indymedia.iehttp://www.indymedia.ie/atomfullposts?story_id=97222http://www.indymedia.ie/graphics/feedlogo.gifA creepy business!http://www.indymedia.ie/article/97222#comment2714302010-07-17T12:14:45+00:00A FreemanIt's a very catholic thing to do isn't it? The RC Church are fond of exhuming re...It's a very catholic thing to do isn't it? The RC Church are fond of exhuming remains and then parading them about the place, wasn't some 19th century priest from from France on a 'national tour' recently? I suppose the Bolshevik practice of embalming the their deceased dictators like Lenin is something similar. Chavez is something of a catholic marxist combining the two strands I suppose!<br />
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Personally, I find the whole business creepy and macabre but then as an ex-catholic, liberal and rationalist I suppose I would!Nothing wrong with having decent inspirational figureshttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/97222#comment2714462010-07-18T03:58:28+00:00CitizenThere's nothing creepy or macarbre about honouring dead heroes like Bolivar and ...There's nothing creepy or macarbre about honouring dead heroes like Bolivar and attempting to inspire the current generation by highlighting their bravery in standing up for their people. Certainly beats the crappy role models offered up by capitalist tv reality shows. "A Freeman", Would you prefer if we forgot about people like Bolivar and just held up idiots like the current contestants of big brother for the youth of today both here and in poverty stricken areas like south america as sources of inspiration?<br />
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Bah! Personally I'd much prefer if my kids admired Bolivar. Capitalists hate it when people are inspired and band together. They want us all to be just a bunch of pliable atomised zombie consumers and slaves.<br />
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raising the deadhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/97222#comment2714502010-07-18T12:40:55+00:00opus diablosSome's gotta do the dirty jobs.And better to raise Bolivar, Tone and O'Connell t...Some's gotta do the dirty jobs.And better to raise Bolivar, Tone and O'Connell than to elevate the micro-clones of Lord Haw-Hee that dominate Irish public life at the minute.No doubt many would rather elevate the Conquisdors than those who stood up against them in their pillaging barbarity.Bolivar represents the a search for necessary political unity in the Americas that is central if the hegemony of the US predations are to be contained and their flag worshiping warriors reminded that there are human consequences to blinkered nationalistic agrandisement at the expense of the non-gringo.Try 'The Open Veins of Latin America' by Eduardo Galeano for condensed summation.Rest in Peace.http://www.indymedia.ie/article/97222#comment2714572010-07-18T16:22:11+00:00Stil Living.He is long dead.<br />
Leave him in peace where he is now.He is long dead.<br />
Leave him in peace where he is now.long dead?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/97222#comment2714612010-07-18T19:38:12+00:00opus diablosThats just the corpse of the temporal vehicle.The ideas he pursued persist.
I w...Thats just the corpse of the temporal vehicle.The ideas he pursued persist. <br />
I would imagine his peace would be enhanced (certainly more than it might conceivably be troubled) by the remembrance of his ideas in the cultures of the Americas.His successes and failures have lessons that have not lost their usefulness.<br />
If it makes us remember the plurality of the Americas, that seems enoughy reason to remind us of his long battle against the entrenched brutality of the European destroyers of the civilisations that were exterminated for gold, 'souls', and slaves.Washington has defined America in an unhealthy and imbalanced fashion that distorts, through its encorporated media, the general public perception of global realities. Bolivar's place in world history, as with many who will be remembered if we ever do humanise ourselves to our potential, will be of more interest to future generations than the simian antics of the current dominant crop of clowns. but thats enough metaphysics, check out Eduardo Galeano.