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Electronic voting for Ireland? ermmmm

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday September 17, 2002 15:17author by Ruairi Report this post to the editors

Follow Florida's example!!!

As Ireland rushes to embrace the amazing U.S. model of sham democracy, Florida is discovering that accidents don't just happen - they are often orchestrated! check this out! http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm

author by Raypublication date Tue Sep 17, 2002 15:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

...the courts have ruled that the people selling the voting machines don't have to reveal how they work, because that's a business secret. Which means nobody can find out if they have any bugs or security holes.

author by diarmuidpublication date Tue Sep 17, 2002 22:59author email info at instantkarma dot orgauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

with e-voting, fraud will be much easier - fewer people to bribe.

it's a dutch company called nedap who will make the irish machines. they also make cattle tagging systems.

mooo

author by Terrypublication date Wed Sep 18, 2002 13:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A further problem with electronic voting, there is no 'paper' trail and
at any stage bogus data can be entered or votes dropped out. The software
engineer has full control to do whatever they look, including put in 'trap-doors'
to turn on all sorts of non-standard behaviour. Rather like in the manner that
'cheats' are used in most games. 'Cheats' are used because they are very handy to
have when the games are being written and the programmer wants to quickly jump to
a particular scenario in a game to test something.

At a minimum e-voting software should be at least Open Source code and mechanisms
should be in place to show it has not been tampered with.

For those not in the know, most of the 'free' software on the Internet, such
as Netscape browser, Linux operating system and many computer programming languages
are Open Source, which means anyone can download the code and look at it.

This way everyone gets to see exactly what is there. However that alone would not be sufficient,
and as stated above, much more stringent checks and balances would need to be in place, with
everything open to inspection but anyone else. None of this secrecy shit!

author by Terrypublication date Wed Sep 18, 2002 13:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Last sentence should have read:

This way everyone gets to see exactly what is there. However that alone would not be sufficient,
and as stated above, much more stringent checks and balances would need to be in place, with
everything open to inspection BY anyone else. None of this secrecy shit!

author by Ruairipublication date Wed Sep 18, 2002 14:11author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ray, you say the courts have ruled... is that the Irish courts? Do you know a good source of more info...
thanks,

author by Raypublication date Wed Sep 18, 2002 15:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

No, that was the Florida courts mentioned in the opening article. I'm afraid I don't have the link, its something I was reading about last week. I'm sure if you read up on all the problems there were with the latest elections in Florida you'll find some references to the court judgement.

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