mayday press release on Nice

by by the way Fri Oct 18, 2002 17:07

if you want to apply pre WW2 analytic tools
to the development of the EU
[which incidently I think works only to a point]
then think of the "bread basket of Europe" also known as "the Ukraine".
I remember pointing out a news anomoly between my friends @ reuters.com [western civilisation news source agency] and corriere del sera in Italy over Ukrania back in July here on "neutral-zone-cyber-ireland".
The development of the EU has held to principles generally called NWO new world order, which for European purposes began 11 years ago with the reunification of the German state, a result of Kohl+Bush(1)+Gorbachov.
This was one the final acts of WW3.
(for those who don´t understand the WW4 geo-political analytic tool, WW3 was understood to be the system conflict between traditional capitalism of western civilisation and central comand style communist of the Moscow led east. WW3 was a conflict between 2 "superpowers" as such was mostly psychological and if military fought by proxy.
The beginning of the EU superstate saw WW3 end with it might be worth pointing out the collapse of traditional leftwing ideology and parties in western civilisation and the development of the multi-national-corporations as geo-political decision makers.
We "in the know" call that WW4.
WW4 has subverted "democracy" which is why the USA has an illegitamate president, and set "western civilisation" on a crash course with "islamic civilisation".
WW2 analogies work for saying "they are bastards" or "they are evil" however it presupposes two clearly defined warring aliances at least.
WW4 is very very different.
WW4 is Mr O´asif and weird friends against the terribly unimpressive array of Fortune 500 multi-national-corporations and their little rascals.
WW1 = military sacrifice
WW2 = holocaust and fight against fascism=capitalism.
WW3 = begining of "hyper-capitalism"
WW4 =
the fight for
HEART AND MIND.

by east-european Fri Oct 18, 2002 18:00

If Irish people really think like this, they should leave the European Union themselves instead of keeping us outside.

Please be fair - dont crush our future.

P.S.: The European Union is NOT Germany of the 30s. Thank you.

by silly does it Fri Oct 18, 2002 20:53

but we must acknowledge the protocol accorded
Poland for territory lost in the Danzig corridor at the end of WW2.
At present the borders in central europe between Germany, Austria, and Italy to the immediate east are frontiers similar to those found in North America.
EU enlargement is primarily geo-political power play to control resources to the east and markets.

The east is a very nice place to visit, lots of people there want to be part of Europe but haven´t realised that they are already a part of Europe.
It was a tactic of NATO to pretend that they were east when they were central and to pretend they weren´t european or in Europe.

Europe is very big and speaks lots of languages, lots of states in EU may like to leave as indeed a few states in the USA have thought to leave No?

by A WOL Fri Oct 18, 2002 21:47

more and more people are beginning to discuss the possibility of leaving the EU especially in the Nordic countries. But how is this done there is no mechanism there for this. The eu is like a life sentence in a maximum security prison, you can get in but you are not allowed to leave. What happens when you try to leave either a prison or a prison house of Nations.

by cell block a inmate Sat Oct 19, 2002 16:03

We never should have Joined, Norway was right, they did not listen to crooked politicans and bought trADE UNIONISTS.