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SWP's role in Florence

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday November 11, 2002 16:47author by Florence anti-capitalist Report this post to the editors

I was in Florence recently for the ESF. When there I saw a nasty side of the Irish SWP.

The ESF in Florence was a great success. Up to 1 million people marching. And then there were thousands involved in the ESF.

On thing that I didn't like about it was the Irish SWP. The SWP come into a lot of criticism on Indymedia, I hope that this posting is not seen as such. It is news because it gives activists a view of the SWP that I witnesses and it is worrying.

When in a bar in Florence I bumped into a whole load of SWP members from Ireland. I thought this was great, some familiar faces in a foreign city.

But before I could get talking to some of them they started singing. They were sing Nationalist and Republican songs. I find this strange for socialists to be singing these 'rebel' songs glorifying terrorism and nationalism.

And furthermore as an Irish protestent I was put off by their sectarianism. Think about what it would be like to Catholics to hear socialists singing the Sash?

Maybe with a few drinks on them their Northern policy, that is in reality a 'left-republican' position, came out. Sober the SWP are socialists, with drink they are rabid nationalists.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Rebel songs     Justin Moran    Mon Nov 11, 2002 16:58 
   This guy has is own agenda and is a liar     dave lordan    Mon Nov 11, 2002 16:59 
   Cmon Dave     after the revolution    Mon Nov 11, 2002 17:40 
   Sean South etc..     H. Pollitt    Mon Nov 11, 2002 17:53 
   Natural born leaders     Italian social movements    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:00 
   be proud, sing it out loud!     pat c    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:02 
   I was that drunken Irish person     Nora Geraghty    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:34 
   stop the world - another war is possible!     hydra    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:39 
   Come off it!!     Phuq Hedd    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:54 
 10   Slaps on the back     Italian social movements    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:54 
 11   Isn't it interesting?     Charlie Chan    Mon Nov 11, 2002 18:55 
 12   They are back     Bob the trot    Mon Nov 11, 2002 19:07 
 13   Congrats to GR     Justin Moran    Mon Nov 11, 2002 19:24 
 14   disgraced SWP member not in CWU!     Bob the Party Builder    Mon Nov 11, 2002 21:18 
 15   You're a lair, 'Bob the party'     Sussed him    Mon Nov 11, 2002 23:11 
 16   You're also a liar     usssde mih    Mon Nov 11, 2002 23:12 
 17   Dead Russians     Harry Pollitt    Tue Nov 12, 2002 15:18 
 18   do you mean this one Harry?     hydra    Tue Nov 12, 2002 16:13 
 19   More songs     Harry Pollitt    Tue Nov 12, 2002 17:43 
 20   'Rebel' Songs     Harry Pollitt    Tue Nov 12, 2002 17:47 
 21   Republican/Nationalist Songs     doheochai    Tue Nov 12, 2002 19:13 
 22   Harry     Justin Moran    Tue Nov 12, 2002 19:39 
 23   All het up over nothing     TheVoiceOfReason    Tue Nov 12, 2002 19:49 
 24   Answering doheochai     Justin Moran    Tue Nov 12, 2002 19:55 
 25   MARX, ENGELS, LENIN, TROTSKY     DLA    Tue Nov 12, 2002 20:12 
 26   Marx and republicanism     pp    Tue Nov 12, 2002 21:14 
 27   Sinn Fein's international links     doheochai    Wed Nov 13, 2002 00:33 
 28   Hisbola flag     Finghin    Wed Nov 13, 2002 16:36 
 29   It's called Sectarianism     Harry Pollitt    Wed Nov 13, 2002 16:50 
 30   what nutty little '4th international' the Socialist Party is in     sp muppet    Thu Nov 14, 2002 23:14 
 31   finglin while Palestine burns     Nero    Thu Nov 14, 2002 23:24 
 32   SF     Finghin    Fri Nov 15, 2002 21:01 
 33   Whar planet do these clowns live on     sp comedian    Sat Nov 16, 2002 00:27 
 34   NO, the CIA want a social revolution not a political one     Finghin    Sat Nov 16, 2002 20:30 
 35   Transferred comments     Editorial    Tue Nov 19, 2002 21:09 
 36   am I really reading this..     frank from Liverpool    Sun Jan 09, 2005 15:14 


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