New Yahoo Group created - for discussion about upcoming Anti WEF actions

by Daithi Wed Jun 04, 2003 14:51

Who are "we"?

And of all the email services on the entire Internet, did you have to choose one of the most obnoxious ad-ridden privacy-ignorant for-profit services?

Good luck otherwise, though ;-)

by anti WEF Wed Jun 04, 2003 14:58

Can you suggest another place where people can discuss openly on the internet in group/thread/email form that's free from ads, and is easy to set up? Our knowledge and access to computers is limited.

Genuine query, not meant as abuse, it would just be nice if you said something was bad, then to suggest something better instead for our benefit (and for others in future!)

by Daithi Wed Jun 04, 2003 15:35

Well if you don't want the hassle of setting up your own list, the Topica service (www.topica.com) is probably good - the emails contain just a plug for Topica itself in text-only form, you don't need to join or login (except the list owner). Downside is that it goes down from time to time. The L-soft (listserv) service is a for-profit company, but the slimmed down version for non-profit lists doesn't carry any advertising. I'm guessing that you (like me) don't have the knowledge or computer access to manage your own list or write scripts etc. so that might do in the meantime. If you have time, there are other services, some for-profit and some not-for-profit, even some that are open source or free software (code, not price)...there are lists at

http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/List_Management/ (DIY - a bit more work required)

and

http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Mailing_Lists/Hosting_Companies/ (packages, most of which have a freebie option).

And I should add that ny snide remark was for all the groups that have to pick Yahoo...I'm realistic enough to know that you can't cut yourself off from the world (where do the computers come from anyway?) but most people just use Yahoo because of its brand presence - even if an ad-supported service has to be used, and often it does, there are other options that are as easy and still no cost.

Sort of like picking a non-union company or accommodation because it's well known, over a unionised one that offers the same service and price. Ideally of course there wouldn't be any profit-making corporation providing the service, but it's good to choose the bad over the worse.

(end of rant, thank you for reading)

by thanks Wed Jun 04, 2003 15:44

Topica lists were an option but the group works out better for people who dont want emails all the time, they can just read the messages at the site.

Is there any other option (group wise) where you can do this?

Dont know how to write scripts or anything like that.

by anti WEF Wed Jun 04, 2003 15:47

Site up:

http://www.geocities.com/dublinantiwef/

Yes, Geocities are scum. Anyone want to host the site for us?

by hobo Wed Jun 04, 2003 16:12

Steal the name gwan get it first don't even attempt to describe the makeup of the groop

by ??? Wed Jun 04, 2003 16:15

Although its encouraging to see some Irish being used please try to make sure that it is spelt correctly especially if its in such a large font and takes such a prominant place on your website.

deireadh fomahir is spelt Deireadh Fómhair

A couple of free Irish dictionaries are easily available on the web.

http://www.acmhainn.ie
http://www.crannog.ie

For computer terminology in Irish
http://www.dcu.ie/fiontar/further/btfbeag/BTFbeag.html

by mike D Thu Jun 05, 2003 04:22

Irish activists beware! it's common for either fascist elements or State agents to try and take control of a movement. Here you have a website with no names of people or groups, everything on free untraceable services, no attempt to explain where the so-called protest group has come from.

Keep sniffing, you'll smell the fish pretty quick. Get in touch with activists in the US who will educate you how to be alert to this sort of tactic.

by USA AOK Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:12

cops here dont know shit about computers, they dont even know how to work their own central system for information.

did you think 'the good bus' was a fake thing just because they had a yahoo address and a geocities site?

and if the cops wanted to find out about plans for the WEF protests all they will have to do is go to ANY of the PUBLIC meetings that are ADVERTISED all over the internet and posters across the city.

just because you're paranoid does mean that you'll see conspiracies when they arent even there...

by Acidburn Sat Jun 07, 2003 23:51

cops know their shit when it comes to computers and the net. You'd be suprised.