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Jet-Fighters over Irish Airspace.

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Friday May 31, 2002 19:44author by Kef Report this post to the editors

Jet-Fighters Over Ireland?

Are thier foreign Jet Fighters over Irish Airspace?MAbye someone else has heard them.

Last Tuesday night at around 9:30pm,Westmeath.
Mabye someone else here heard it as well or on a different occasion. A loud rumbling noise started off in the distance and grew louder over the next minute or 30 seconds or so. It continued to to reach a very high noise level with the area around almost vibrating before peaking with a very clear "whoosh" sound as the plane passed over head. I've heard Fighter Planes before and it was the same noise . There was several other people there with me at the time and we all agreed it was not a helicopter/civil aircraft. I dont know of any flyable planes the AirCore has that would produce the same affect.
Since 9/11 I heard some other people mention hearing other strang aircraft. I didnt really pay much attention though.
Is thier meant to be foreign military aircraft flaying over Irish airspace?I knew there was some transport planes and stuff but this was very fast and different.SOmeone else here probly knows more.

author by Bigglespublication date Sat Jun 01, 2002 00:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You should record the exact time, and take recordings of sound or video.
How far are you from Baldonnel / Shannon / Knock Airports?

RAF jets (Tornadoes) flew patrols over us in September /October, finished (when?)

Keep an eye out.

Contact those dudes in Shannon if you see anything clearly identifiable.

author by Tim Houriganpublication date Sat Jun 01, 2002 00:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I was out at Shannon today watching the USAF pracise high speed touch and go landings and low level sweeps over Shannon town. Very freaky to watch a pair of C-130s make tight turns 500ft above a civilian town.

I'd like to know where abouts you are and what exactly you have observed.
Get a notebook and some recording gear if you can.
Call your local radio and talk about it, ask if anyone else has seen/heard anything.

If you have any more details send them to me at:
tim_hourigan@hotmail.com


author by Dave Fluffpublication date Sat Jun 01, 2002 03:21author email davefluff at dol dot ieauthor address Kildareauthor phone Report this post to the editors

I was aged 7 or 8 when the gulf war broke out, I remember watching a desert pink royal airforce jet fly ultra low level over my house in dublin...

About 5 years ago, I have the exact time, date and another witness, i saw a USAF A-10 aircraft flying over where i currently live... the a-10... the one that fires those depleted uranium shells...

Theres nothing new with this stuff, I just wonder are the jets landing here.. the C-130's are enough but are fighters and bombers landing here?

if you heard the jet so plainly, and loud... the only other possibility is a concorde, i somehow doubt it... it must've been fairly low, possibly landing...and if so where are they landing. baldonnel? too obvious? what about knock? its very distrubing that this is all going on right now, and i'm quite sure it has been going on right throughout the cold war, and again, if this is what we are hearing... imagine what we arent. imagine the crap that overflies "neutral" ireland everyday. and the public dont have a clue..

on a related note, i was told during the cold war the russians had one nuke pointed at ireland.. at shannon precisely... obviously they knew what was going on as well.

author by Tim Houriganpublication date Sat Jun 01, 2002 12:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Not sure if it was 5 years ago. But I clearly saw an A-10 thunderbolt over Loch Derg one weekend while out rowing a small boat.
A-10s are very hard to mistake for anything else. They have a distinctive shape.

As for nukes at Shannon, it wouldn't surprise me at all. (worry me, yes,... surprise me, no)
It is a strategic airport, over 2 miles long and at the western edge of Europe. If the UK fell to the USSR, Shannon would have been the primary airport for the US to launch counter attacks.
A source from the airport told me that the tunnels under the runway were primed with explosives and manned by US military staff, with the orders to blow the runway if the USSR ever looked like taking Shannon.
Both the staff and the explosives went back home in the 80s at the end of the cold war. The tunnels are still there though.


author by Komsomolpublication date Sun Jun 02, 2002 14:55author email komsomol at swirve dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

i was down at baldonnel aerodrome for a week as work experience, the things we learned there is The Irish Air Corps does NOT have any air worthy Jet Fighters... they have about 3 rusting beside the main hanger where berties over 20 million personal jet is parked. While talking to the Radar controller i noticed a squadron of British Jets flying over the Irish sea, i asked him about that and he said they do that all the time, some even fly over irish soil, he said they always get permission and are never refused, why would they?, he also said USAF jets fly over irish soil on a very regualr basis. We all know that though, but i was suprised that RAF jets fly over irish soil..... , the point im making is the jets you heard over westmeath definatly were not Irish

author by xandaupublication date Tue Jun 04, 2002 00:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

theres an airstrip in anglsea wales called raf valley,they have some small jet trainers and occasionally tornados do training around the island,this base is only 5 mins from where the holyhead boat stops.
as someone who deplores death and violence - weather from jet fighters or not,i think it must be mentioned with fairness to the raf that seaking helicopers (2 in valley i think) have saved more irish sailors than the underfunded aircorps who get no money for adequate search and rescue-i even heard of a man who fell off a cliff in howth being picked up by a helicopter that came all the way from wales
all this at a time when bertie plans to spend €50million more on a new jet
it would be a joke to think our air is free from deathcraft-just look at shannon so im sure that was an raf jet.

author by Steve - nonepublication date Sat Jun 08, 2002 01:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I saw a Tupelov TU-22M Backfire fly out of Shannon Airport

author by biggles - aviatorpublication date Wed May 26, 2004 12:01author email aviator at aviator dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Late comment but;

No you didn't...go to Specsavers and buy some new ones...

author by bigglespublication date Wed May 26, 2004 12:13author email aviator at aviator dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

You lot wouldn't know a Hawk from a DC3 from an Airbus. let alone tell type from sound.

There are 2 privately owned ex RAF trainers (JP's) that regularly fly into Shannon...doubtless fully armed with nuclear bombs and on spy missions from the UK...

Get a life or a planespotters book from Easons...better still lets have some firm evidence of overflights, or does reality upset the pinko, neutrality loving, treehugging, gay rights lobby?

Ireland has been sheltering under the Nato air defence umbrella for 50 years..fact. So get a life, a job and contribute something useful to society instead of taking tea with tellytubbies.

author by pat cpublication date Wed May 26, 2004 12:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Jet fighters will be no match for them as the yogis irradiate the pilots with beams of love and peace.

author by Ray McInerneypublication date Wed May 26, 2004 12:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I fully agree with you......

author by bigglespublication date Thu May 27, 2004 18:20author email aviator at aviator dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Shannon was and probably still is the eastern end of the 'Reforger Airlift' This was (is)?a plan for the US to use hundreds (yes) of cargo aircraft in a massive resupply operation for NATO in the event of war.

Shannon was was the only major European airport out of range of Soviet missiles parked in eastern Europe.

Irish neutrality would be irrelevent in the circumstances given the Soviet intent (stated) to bomb the place. Irish Government wishes would also be irrelevent as US Marines were tasked to seize the airfield in the event of hostilities to ensure its use for NATO.

This is publically available info..there were also less public ones to seize and hold the refinery at Whitegates, Cork and use Cork harbour. Again because the facilities were outside the Soviets immediate range.

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