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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8Todays Irish Times, reports
In late Autumn 2003 an inter-departmental committee of officials began an examination of the implications of EU enlargement on the Irish State, including housing and social welfare costs.
"They have been looking at this for months. They are not looking at the impact on the labour market, but, rather what happens on housing, health, social welfare fronts."
said a government spokesman.
Yesterdays Guardian reports
Ministers from the Foreign Office, the Department for Work and Pensions and the Home Office have been meeting to discuss measures that would withhold benefits from
migrants from the 10 accession countries when they join the EU in May.
Britain is examining tighter benefit controls to prevent increased immigration from mainly eastern European countries joining the EU, the prime minister said yesterday. Responding to pressure from the rightwing press and the Conservative leader, Michael Howard, Mr Blair said the government was looking at the "potential risk" and might close off concessions if necessary.
Downing Street said it wanted to ensure no one from EU countries could immediately claim means-tested benefits. At present access to means-tested benefits such as housing benefit is available under the habitual residence test if someone is deemed resident for at least six months. This may be extended by the government to at least 18 months
[On more immigration?]
[On the overall Irish welfare system ?]
>We asked for a govt. representative to join the discussion but none was made available...
from an RTE Radio 1 feature on May 1st enlargement.
economist "We are exposed to possibilities that could be very serious for the govt. and society, thats absolutely true.
The difficulty is this - that we're in this community , there is a set of rules, which means that we must abide by them, we have a liberal social welfare regime, we are also constitutionally bound in terms of immigration by the Good Friday Agreement and we now find ourselves with people coming in, possibly looking for social welfare, and we will have a choice between either accommodating them or changing the rules for social welfare for everybody.
Now there will be some people and I will be one of those saying maybe we should contemplate that..."
>So are you saying if there's a wave of immigration into the State on May 1st and social welfare rules have to be changed, they'll be changed for everybody ?
economist "They'll have to be, you can't discriminate".
>Everybody ? You can't discriminate ?
economist "You can't discriminate, no. How are you going to discriminate ?"
>So the threat to social welfare is even stronger then ?
economist "Something will have to give. There's no doubt about that."
[The overall Irish Welfare system]
Tom McGurk gets the economists viewpoint on this mornings Sunday Show.
I don't have the facilities to listen on line myself, but I think you'll find the interview around
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/infocenter/audio_weekend.html
Excellent article. Story is also covered in todays Sunday Business Post - in 'The Market' section.
This mentions not only social welfare, but also the minimum wage - and raises the spectre:
'So, through no fault of the immigrants, the minimum wage policy, combined with the immigration policy, will push unemployment up.
'
You want immigration - dismantle the social contract. Reduce social welfare, cut the minimum wage...
Somebody is playing the race card - maybe a log of tabloid and other coverage will be usefull here. Of course the thread will have to be troll monitored - don't feed them, they'll be pruned.
We're about to be swamped by hundreds of thousands of Roma gypsies from Slovenia. They have no culture of working for a living. We have to keep them out.
'They have no culture of working for a living. We have to keep them out.'
much like the irish - no wonder they come here!
May 1st might be even more ironic than we first thought
Yeah, I read the SBP article.
But I think its got a limited viewpoint.
I reckon the Irish govt. know what they're doing.
And that means meeting the demands of multi-national corporations.