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Labour Youth says no to Rabbitte's election strategy

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday November 22, 2004 20:47author by Allen Report this post to the editors

Labour Youth has overwhelmingly rejected the party leader's electoral strategy.

At its annual conference in the Mansion House, Dublin, at the weekend, the majority of delegates backed a motion opposing any "rigid pre-electoral pact or voting arrangement" which would compromise the party's core values.

The vote is another indication of divergence on the preferred option of party leader Mr Pat Rabbitte of seeking a pre-election pact with Fine Gael.

Mr Rabbitte, who was in Waterford while the issue was debated but who addressed the conference on Saturday evening, said: "I'd have been very disappointed if the delegates didn't take a radical view. I accept that there can be two views and always have been about electoral strategy. It has been a perennial problem for Labour."

Before he addressed 100 Labour Youth members, Mr Rabbitte said there were at least 18 months to go to the election and "in the meantime I will lead as I have indicated".

He told the conference it was his objective to remove "this most unsocialist of governments" from office.

"To do that, I am convinced that we must present the Irish people with an alternative at the next general election and to have that Government returned to office. If we have two years left to that battle being joined, I hope in that time to persuade you of the merits of this strategy."

In the 1970s coalition may have been an issue, but "there really isn't any market for that" now and the party should not "take an each-way bet".

He also said he had had no meetings with Fine Gael since the Mullingar agreement and suggested it was better to go into election with a policy "finessed", rather than to wait until afterwards when there would be little time and too much pressure.

A Fine Gael spokesman said yesterday the vote was a matter for Labour Youth. "Pat Rabbitte has stated his strategy and he is the leader of the Labour Party."

The conference motion stated that Labour's progressive policies represented a "direct challenge to the neo-liberal policies of Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil and the Progressive Democrats" and it called on the party to play a leading role in opposing parties of the right at every level of Government.

The vote on an amendment from Mr Rabbitte's Dublin South West constituency was closer. It called for the party to rule out coalition with Fianna Fáil and the PDs and added that "while Labour Youth remains open to a Labour/FG vote-transfer pact, it is totally opposed to a Labour/FG pre-election policy pact".

It would fight the general election on an independent policy platform "in direct opposition to Fine Gael's policy agenda, where necessary".

The amendment's proposer said the party had three options - to seek coalition with Fianna Fáil, to seek coalition with Fine Gael or to tell them both to "get stuffed".

One speaker said Labour should fight the election as an independent party and then "we would see what we could get from those blueshirts, they are so bloodthirsty for power". Another said: "Unfortunately a huge majority are voting for right-wing parties" and "at some stage we will have to go in with them".

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http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=67556

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Lets make this very clear.     Clarity    Mon Nov 22, 2004 22:11 
   labour youth     anon    Mon Nov 22, 2004 23:05 
   Labour Youth and Coalition     Colm Breathnach    Mon Nov 22, 2004 23:29 
   There are none left     LPwatch    Tue Nov 23, 2004 17:15 
   Socialists in Labour     Colm Breathnach    Tue Nov 23, 2004 18:06 
   leftists in labour youth     hs    Tue Nov 23, 2004 23:45 
   SP didn't 'leave' LY     Max    Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:02 
   Where are they now?     Rosa    Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:40 
   Impressive LP record     Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:43 
 10   Where Are The Millies Now?     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:47 
 11   To Real Cynic     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:30 
 12   My guess (A bit clearer)     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:34 
 13   How Will The SP Vote On the Estimates?     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:36 
 14   Have'nt gone away...     Rosa    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:51 
 15   Once again     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:51 
 16   Libby     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:53 
 17   Rosa     Curious    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:58 
 18   A warped world - (Run away coward)     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 13:58 
 19   Stop deflecting attention from the issue     Labour watch    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:02 
 20   Curious     Curiouser    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:04 
 21   Why     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:06 
 22   IRONIC!     Labour watch    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:08 
 23   Rosa     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:09 
 24   Real Cynic     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:10 
 25   Less Lies Please!     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:12 
 26   Pull The Other One     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:14 
 27   Whatever     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:23 
 28   Libby     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:26 
 29   Methinks     Libby    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:41 
 30   OK     Real Cynic    Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:44 
 31   Read my lips     Rosa    Wed Nov 24, 2004 19:16 
 32   Labour Youth has really developed since the Millitant controlled it     Former LY member    Wed Nov 24, 2004 19:28 
 33   Attendance     Trotwatch    Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:12 
 34   "the Labour Party will get on with delivering real change for real people."     incredulous    Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:31 
 35   70s & 80s     Watcher    Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:34 
 36   Expulsions were Great!     Max    Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:50 
 37   Max     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:03 
 38   Rosa     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:05 
 39   Isnt it clear?     Rosa    Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:23 
 40   Real Cynic     Max    Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:27 
 41   Rosa     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:41 
 42   RC??????     Max    Thu Nov 25, 2004 13:00 
 43   Max     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 13:04 
 44   Bin Tax     Max    Thu Nov 25, 2004 13:22 
 45   Max     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 13:48 
 46   A message to the SP     Libby    Thu Nov 25, 2004 13:52 
 47   Moving on     Rosa    Thu Nov 25, 2004 15:12 
 48   Rosa     Real Cynic    Thu Nov 25, 2004 15:33 
 49   Spoken like a true stalinist     Rosa    Thu Nov 25, 2004 21:43 
 50   down boys     john    Thu Nov 25, 2004 23:07 
 51   Rosa     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:14 
 52   Real Critic     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:32 
 53   Libby     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:38 
 54   Hello Rosa     Max    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:52 
 55   Pot - Kettle - Black     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:55 
 56   Spot the obvious mistake     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:56 
 57   Infacta     Me    Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:04 
 58   Libby     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:10 
 59   To be clear     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:19 
 60   Libby     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:47 
 61   Ok RC     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:23 
 62   Labour not involved in campaign     Non payer    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:33 
 63   Libby     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:42 
 64   Enough     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:44 
 65   Answer these questions     non payer    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:48 
 66   'Give me back my ball'     Libby    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:52 
 67   "non" payer     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:52 
 68   Real face of Labour     non payer    Fri Nov 26, 2004 14:06 
 69   "non" payer, FF activisT? DCC Employee?     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 14:09 
 70   2 simple questions     non payer    Fri Nov 26, 2004 15:55 
 71   "non" payer     Real Cynic    Fri Nov 26, 2004 16:22 
 72   SP Troll     Trotwatch    Fri Nov 26, 2004 16:47 
 73   Straight back     Troll    Fri Nov 26, 2004 16:59 
 74   Higgins     Trotwatch    Fri Nov 26, 2004 17:08 
 75   Bin tax activists: the Facts     Fred    Fri Nov 26, 2004 19:16 
 76   Arogance     Interested    Sat Nov 27, 2004 19:04 
 77   Read again     Fred    Sat Nov 27, 2004 21:13 
 78   Labour     Pat C    Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:32 
 79   Pat C     clarify    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:33 
 80   to "clarify"     pat c    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:30 
 81   Hey Pat     Dial a Cliche    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:49 
 82   Troll Get Lost     pat c    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:52 
 83   Facts     ABTC    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:13 
 84   ...     anonymous    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:20 
 85   ABTC     pat c    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:21 


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