Irish Independent - The Lowest Yet

by Redbhoy Thu Apr 28, 2005 14:41

They're no better than the sh*t that writes in the likes of the 'Irish' Sun or the likes! Profit before people!

by a Thu Apr 28, 2005 16:29

That's pretty low alright. But then, we probably shouldn't be surprised. Hopefully over time, people will start using independent media sources such as this for their "news" to the same extent they do "for-profit" media. Maybe then the motivation for this sort of "reporting" will diminish?

by Whatever Thu Apr 28, 2005 17:00

That's a joke. This so called 'independent media' is so left-wing biased that it makes the Guardian seem like the offical newspaper of the BNP! No space for Conservatives in theis brave new media, eh?

by a Thu Apr 28, 2005 17:31

Right... well you've clearly missed my point. Whether a particular reporter is "conservative", "liberal" or whatever else, if there is no "ching-ching" in sight, there is far less motive to take transport to the midlands to go chasing some poor indivicuals trying to maintain a certain degree of privacy! Do you really think that people would be motivated to do this sort of thing if it weren't for the money? I mean, after all, the story will do little other than satisfy the curiosity of random individuals - I doubt the reporters have an enormous amount of interest in the events themselves, or feel they are furthering any real "cause" here! I'd say it's simply a case of finding a story that will sell. For those interested in the scientific aspects of the events, hospital reports and related material will be of far more relevance.

There's nothing to stop you from starting your own "independent media" site. That's the nature of independent media. I suspect there are plenty of conservative media sites on the net. To be honest, I think you'd get along well with the crowd over in adequacy.org. They don't seem to have many friends though - another thing I suspect you might have in common with them?

by Redbhoy Thu Apr 28, 2005 17:57

Dont stray from the fact that Tony O Reillys lackeys are sniffing around the family involved in this tragedy when they were politely asked to stay away! Dont be turning this into a right Vs left argument! Because its not. Its Right Vs Wrong!

by Midlander Thu Apr 28, 2005 18:32

Unfortunately even if they don't get a story they will probably make that the story and so use it as an excuse to invade the privacy of this poor family. Probably print it in their rag tomorrow and then the others will follow.

by Paul - adrift in Asia Thu Apr 28, 2005 18:50

There's nothing stopping a conservative posting on this board if they want to. In fact, nearly every time I'm on the site, I read something I completely disagree with, written from what I perceive as a conservative perspective. Sure, there's a high chance that such a poster would be roasted, but what's wrong with that? It's called having an opinion...

by liam030 Thu Apr 28, 2005 19:49

Why did you publish this as a new story?

NEWSFLASH: Journalists trying to get a story.

Did it ever occur to you that all the other papers the tabloids the times the trib the examiner etc are all doin the same.
You obviously have something against the irish independent as every leftie has. fair enuff thats ur business. but come on! this is what journalists do. not just indo journalists. do you expect widespread shock.

at least they are working on a story and not just publishing some bullshit non story that comes to mind

eg irish independent - the lowest yet

by Hack Thu Apr 28, 2005 20:39

Can't agree with this "story"
1. It's well known at this stage within the media who the parents are, yet their names haven't been published - which demonstrates some sort of sensitivity.
2. Anyone who suggests that the Irish indo would have the resources to send "several news teams" to "prowl" the midlands obviously don't know how Irish newspapers operate.
In the case of the indo, and the Irish Times, one correspondent is employed to cover a region such as the midlands. And they don't get any extra cash on top of their wages for stories like the twins.
Simply put, indo management have a tradition of not spending money on journalistic man or women power. Talk of "news teams" stalking the streets would make most indo hacks laugh.
3. I think you'll find that the guys who knocked on doors claiming to be from the Indo might turn out to be from a different newspaper (ie.. Ireland on Sunday, who have a particularly bad reputation among other papers here when it comes to situations where everyone else is respecting a family's privacy in certain instances)

by Consumer Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:39

If any town or community is unhappy with the way they have been treated by any newspaper, tv or radio station they have a simple solution in their own hands.
Stop buying that paper, stop advertising on that station.
The people of Liverpool did this to the Sun after Hillsborough.

Most media outlets are commercial operations, if sales start falling they'll soon try to find out why? and change their behaviour accordingly.

by Midlander Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:54

'Hack' is getting very worked up there defending the indefensible. Quite detailed knowledge of the resources of the media and attempt to spin the blame onto a different newspaper as well. A cynic would wonder where Hack's weekly pay packet emerges from?

I'm just letting people know what took place yesterday morning, directly from people who were present, thats all. Since it is related to media activity and topical news it is a suitable news story for an independent media outlet.

by Hack Fri Apr 29, 2005 13:43

Just making a simple few points about your "story" midlander. I'm sure you welcome some reaction, no?
And hardly providing any more detailed knowledge than most people who take an interested in the Irish media would be aware of .
Now, back to writing this week's Irishman's diary....

by Skinner Tue May 03, 2005 14:51 belfast_14 at yahoo dot co dot uk

Of course this action is a case of ignorant invasion of privacy. But for some here to try to pass the buck from O'Reilly's mob to the Daily Mail mob is cheap again.
Ireland on Sunday has certainly garnered a certain reputation for invasive journalism in the past, but its practices are no different than those of the Indo group or the red tops.
The Sunday Indo all but named the poor family involved, and hence the approbrium attached to these activities should in this case be directed towards Indo Towers, not to those other papers which respected the family's legitimate desire to mourn in private.

by Gatzby Thu May 05, 2005 15:37

Skinner, is that you? Reply with some answer only we would know.

By the way - all this menion of 'Indo news teams' is rubbish - the Indo would send one reporter and a snapper at most, as would (and did) the Irish Times, Sunday Times, Tribune and all the others. Such innacuracy belies the unreliability of Indymedia for news facts. Indymedia is a laugh to everyone except the handful of UCD kids (whose education is paid for by daddy's business... oh the irony of it) who have yet to enter the real world of work and responsibility.

Gatz

by Lois Thu May 05, 2005 19:02

Nice to read a reality check into how the indo and others work.
But perhaps the idea of "news teams" sounds so much more romantic in terms of the same UCD-types' vision of the evil mainstream media empire.