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Trinity College Dublin Authorities Censorship of Student Magazine Found Wanting of Motive
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Saturday March 18, 2006 12:31 by Le Sybarite
Mainstream Media Sunday Times misses key points and confuses debate about censorship and licence with less lofty motives. Trinity College Dublin has ordered the seizure and destruction of a student magazine called Piranha! because it used what the College authorities say is “offensive language” in an article about Muslim reaction to the cartoons depicting "the Prophet Muhammad". Trinity College Dublin has ordered the seizure and destruction of a student magazine called Piranha! because it used what the College authorities say is “offensive language” in an article about Muslim reaction to the cartoons depicting "the Prophet Muhammad". |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14According to libel law in Ireland, you can sue either the editor/writer, the publisher, or the printer. In practice, you would go for the person with the deepest pockets, which woould be the college itself.
However, I am not sure what legislation would allow a prosecution of the magazine - maybe, anti-hate legislation.
I notice that in your very long post you don't mention who the current "off books" student is who is the editor. Why not? Who are the other editorial staff?
Piranha Editor = Robbie Gunning
"Stinking sand niggers outraged by Danish slight on their towel-headed religion”.
Just how is this supposed to be satire? There are 2 racist insults in that sentence alone. Religion is not race but equally race is not religion, mocking someones religion is one thing, abusing them because of their race is totally different. you can change your religion, you cant change your race.
"I notice that in your very long post you don't mention who the current "off books" student is who is the editor. Why not? Who are the other editorial staff? "
"very long post" - I disagree - it's shorter than many others that have been made on this site.
SO what if Le Sybartite doesn't mention the editor or staff by name - it's a bit rich coming from a secret society of editors like Indymedia to find such a fault...
GREAT ARTICLE!!!!!!!
That links is almost 5 years old. Robbie was editor along time ago and is well gone...Check the time stamp on the page if you like... The editor at the time of that issue that got in so much(relatively little) trouble is no longer a trinity student. Next year's editors have been selected already.
Piranha is no stranger to to being banned or fined...
its nothing more than right wing racist filth . No studenty excuses for this hateful garbage . Its unacceptable and a prosecution under hatred laws is the least of what should hapen . Disgraceful .
What is so puerile about this stuff is that it is so *obviously* offensive. So why do it? If this is what passes for intellectual stimulation or undergraduate debate in Trinity College these days, then there's something seriously wrong. One wonders why what old JOhn Kelly of Fine Gael once referred to as "subsidised brats" need to go to College at all, when there's tons of less well off people trying to get onto Trinity's Access Programme (founded by Ivana Backik) and get an education.
But then coming from a college that has maintained a plaque commemorating the killing of 2 1916 volunteers by its Officer Training Corps (now the DU Rifle Club) at the front gate of the college, perhaps being offensive is par for the course.
By the way, the financial aspect of the magazine is not quite accurate. College magazine funding in trinity is supposed to be a combination of the publications committee grant, sales, and advertising money. It would seem the best response to make to this kind of crap is to boycott the advertisers in College magazines in Trinity. Or someone takes a legal action. Hitting people financially brings the best results - always.
Btw, I also notice that the WikiPedia entry for TCD that refers to the Publications section has been recently edited, so washing the hands of the college and the publications committee - why is that?
"In February 2006, the College seized almost all copies of Piranha. The controversy was caused by a satirical piece, deemed to be racist. Neither the College nor the DU Publications Committee agreed with the content and offensive language contained in the article."
Anyone know the names of the editor and staff for real? Or did they put their names to it?
The infamous Slate 'Blacks in the Jacks' edition was very offensive but alsoamazingly inciteful in highlighting the sort of jobs left to immigrants to do.
Southpark has some really offensive and stupid stuff but is is mixed in with strong criticism of the subject.
I presume you mean insightful and not inciteful..:)
I was not aware that Slate carried such an article. Is there a URL? Or is this a different Slate?
Niall Morris
The piece was actually the only article in the whole rag that can be described as satire, and is actually very though provoking once you get past the incredibly ill-judged and indefensible language. That, and it's patently in defense of muslims.
And it was a piece of moronic racist of the highest order. It was neither funny nor insightful, but a deliberate attempt to "stir the brown stuff". Kevin Myers would have been proud.
Have any of you people who find this so offensive actually read an issue of piranha? There are no sacred cows for the publication and no taboo too important to break. The reason this is possible is that they slag off everyone equally and do not print article after article on muslims.
When did people start getting so bloody offended? A huge majority of trinity students (the target audience and pretty much the only people who can obtain the magazine) would be able to understand the context and realise that by saying "stinking sand niggers" doesn't mean you hate muslims at all.
I found that edition funny as fuck for poking fun at people just like you who sit and worry about what others are doing or saying, rather than your own bad works. There will be no terrorist attack in Ireland, what'll they bomb? the spire? Get a grip. And to be honest, after the ridiculousness of that cartoon debacle the muslim religion needed a bit of a kick in the balls.