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by dunk Thu Sep 27, 2007 22:59 fuspey at yahoo dot co dot uk

seems like momentum is building in dublin, glad thats happening. Seems theres differing views as to how effective this is, how political its directed, what form(s) being "political"...etc. Anyway, its healthy that this discussion / forum is happening, weldone to organisers and i hope it grows further. On the "reclaiming power" thread i made the point that i hope that maybe people might record and later upload material, to firstly archive for later use, and also so that if there are clashes that those who missed whatever, still get to listen later... i feel this is still a hugely underutelised area that if explored more by social movements might further widen and deepen things.

the opening of seomra spraoi has sparked a fair bit of discussion which ties into what i think is being partly explored by the forum, worth a deco there to see the arguments but also positive contributions...

my own angle, is that although there is still a bit of discussion there is, and has been, a serious lack of dreaming / imagination or critical discussion as to the exploration of "best case scenario" and how we get there, in all its angles. i posted about this before with little response, so wont again. but things are moving, so well done to those that are making it happen

Reclaiming Power - people's resistance to the WTO, World Bank and IMF
http://indymedia.ie/article/84303#comment207974

Seomra Spraoi: We got us some space!
http://indymedia.ie/article/84294&comment_limit=0&conde...08105

Grassroots Gathering,follow up meeting
http://indymedia.ie/article/84093

by Fintan Lane Thu Sep 27, 2007 15:07

This does happen too often. For our own part, though, the ISN national meeting is an internal event (decided ages ago) and was never going to be advertised on indymedia, or anywhere else, and we didn't know about the other very interesting conferences and seminars when we scheduled it. Such clashes, unfortunately, are pretty difficult to avoid. It happens. I'm sure other political groups are also having internal meetings on the 13th.

Dear oh dear.

by D_D Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:57

These clashes are unfortunate, and a real problem. We'll have to live with them, I suppose.

They are not entirely unavoidable. The left, in it's broadest span and diversity, may be a long way from co-ordination, and even longer from unity, but one thing we could try for is preventing CLASHES which take away from all similar events happening at the same time.

Some checking and asking around before setting dates would help, and meanwhile Indymedia is probably the nearest thing we have at present to a kind of clearing house to avoid these mis-timings.

by Fintan Lane Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:35

It's just one of these unfortunate clashes. There is also an anti-war conference on 13th October and a national meeting of the ISN. Four events and counting.

by disappointed Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:15

What a pity this event happens on the same day as the "Reclaiming Power - people's resistance to the WTO, World Bank and IMF" conference, which I received an email about in mid September ... tough choices to be made :) I'm sure there's plenty of people in the same boat as both events read like they promise to be really excellent and valuable to social justice activists......