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category national | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Monday October 22, 2007 11:51author by Tim Hourigan Report this post to the editors

ethical aviation, democracy? Not with FF...

A look at the similarities and differences between two routes out of Shannon.
The Aer Lingus route SNN - LHR and the US military flights to Iraq.

So, people are suprised at the government handling of the Shannon -
Heathrow link?
Well, let's compare and contrast with another route they DO support -
Shannon- Iraq.

Shannon - Heathrow is a very popular route, which carries tourists,
and business people to Heathrow and beyond for fairly peaceful and
lawful purposes agreeable to the Irish people.
Shannon - Iraq flights move troops, weapons, the CIA and possibly the
odd torture victim, for purposes of war, illegal occupation, killing
Iraqis, and maybe a trip to Guantanamo Bay , which most Irish people
oppose.

That's a difference, but what about similarities?
The government played dumb about Aer Lingus' decision to pull out, now
it seems they knew a lot earlier than they said they did.
In defending the US military use of Shannon, the government parrotted
Bush's lies about Saddam and the Blair dossier. It later emerged that
the experts in our Dept of Foreign Affairs told them BEFORE the war,
that the dossier was NOT CREDIBLE. (1)

The government spends NO money subsidising Aer Lingus at Shannon, and
Aer Lingus were belatedly offered reduced landing charges at Shannon.

The government spends millions subsidising the US military at Shannon.
about 4 million euro in Air Traffic Control fees that the US refused
to pay, as well as an even larger figure for the extra security
including the army, Gardai, building a enclosure for the military
flights, and a hi-tech motion detection system to guard the enclosure
(2).
The fees the Pentagon pays do not cover these costs. They pay for fuel
and food and a bit of duty free. Taxpayers like myself pay for the
rest.
In fact the US military, representing 6% of passengers at Shannon,
account for 95% of security costs, and the more they use Shannon the
more it costs us.

The loss of Shannon - Heathrow would be a big blow to the Irish
economy, especially in the Mid-West.

Stopping Shannon - Iraq would reduce the likelihood of anything
blowing up in the Midwest or the Middle East, and despite the
government spin, it would NOT impact significantly on the economy.

In both cases however, the government is resolved to wash its hands,
and ignore the people who pay their salaries.

=====
(1) As reported in the (London) Independent on Sunday, Sep 14, 2003
BLAIR'S WAR: How one man deed logic and intelligence to take us to war.

relevant excerpt. =
That was the headline-grabber, the stark image that stuck in the mind
- that fearful weapons could be unleashed suddenly, without warning,
on any of Iraq's neighbours. It was spotted almost immediately by an
expert in the Irish Republic's Department of Foreign Affairs, when a
British diplomat arrived in Iveagh House with a copy of the dossier,
hoping it would secure Ireland's vital vote on the UN Security
Council. Their specialist instantly dismissed it as utterly
unbelievable, for technical and political reasons.

Politically, it was unthinkable that Saddam would allow the Iraqi
army, which he deeply mistrusted, to hold weapons that they could use
for a sudden strike against a presidential palace, he said. And
technically, it defied belief that they could store these materials
permanently in battle-ready conditions out in the heat of the Iraqi
desert. [end of excerpt]

full article:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_2003091...45089

(2) Garda and Army costs at Shannon are in the region of ten million
euros per year. The weekend of the Bush visit alone cost between ten
and 15 million. Revenue from the military is about 7 million, which
is before deducting the cost of fuelling and servicing.
For a picture of the microwave motion detection system, click here...

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/68357

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Excellent post Tim     Eoin Dubsky    Mon Oct 22, 2007 14:46 
   Free market and imperialism     Dubois    Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:33 
   In the dark     Seán Ryan    Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:04 
   In the Dark     Sage    Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:16 
   Earth calling indymedia, come in please     Shannon worker    Wed Oct 24, 2007 01:56 
   Come up out of the earth and look around     Seán Ryan    Wed Oct 24, 2007 05:09 
   Excellent article     Mary Kelly    Wed Oct 24, 2007 09:50 
   In perspective?     Sceptic    Wed Oct 24, 2007 22:29 
   perspective.     Nonskeptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 00:04 
 10   Shannon     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:33 
 11   Huh?     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:57 
 12   it is still vigilantism     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 20:27 
 13   Qualification?     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 21:22 
 14   Shannon redux     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 21:44 
 15   Empty vessels...     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 22:31 
 16   Shannon rights and wrongs     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 14:23 
 17   More lessons for free     Seán Ryan    Sat Oct 27, 2007 15:18 
 18   Correction     Seán Ryan    Sat Oct 27, 2007 15:45 
 19   the Shannon transit facilitates a UN endorsed operation     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 17:21 
 20   -     Whistleblower    Sat Oct 27, 2007 18:41 
 21   An illegal war?     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 22:22 
 22   Skeptic     Jimbob    Sat Oct 27, 2007 23:42 
 23   Not illegal, not based lies     Sceptic    Sun Oct 28, 2007 00:15 
 24   mantras and mandates.     Jimbob.    Sun Oct 28, 2007 00:54 
 25   anti missile missiles are not classified as WMD!     jinkees    Sun Oct 28, 2007 08:52 


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