Shell to Sea Challenge Sweetheart Deal on Valentine's Day

by Fearbolg - S2S Sun Feb 17, 2008 18:56

By the way, Len, you explained away the job losses at the quarries by telling us the terminal won't be built out of rock. Fair enough, it'll

be built mainly with steel and concrete. The main (and only) supplier of concrete in Erris is Lennon Quarries. Guess what? They're one

of the quarries that laid men off just as building on the site is reaching its peak. Explain that please in terms of the contention that this

project is the best thing for Erris since the sliced loaf. And could you please play with a straight bat and a civil tongue? If you resort to

cheap personalised jibes again and refuse to address the issues, I won't waste any more time with you.

by Fearbolg - S2S Sun Feb 17, 2008 18:18

'There's nothing that will save Erris', you tell us. So you agree, then, that this is a major threat to Erris , and not, as you said earlier, a way

to drag us 'kicking and screaming into the 21st century'. Or is that what you mean, or do you, yourself, know what you mean?

I appreciate that you might be new to this forum, where you're required to present your case with clarity and brevity, but you really need to

get on a quick learning curve, so that when you come on here you can debate meaningfully with those of us who choose to spend time

with you. Here are a few pointers:

1. Know what your position is and stick to it.

2. Stick to the general facts. Personalised attacks on Maura Harrington have been done to death and as far as I know she's never lost a

wink of sleep yet.

3. Be consistent. I've pointed out above the contradictory nature of your arguments. Here's another example: You accuse the people of

Erris of being dolers, yet we're told about all the Erris people allegedly working on the site. Is it possible that you're getting confused

about the many people working security on the site who, because Shell isn't paying them a living wage, are entitled to sign on to

supplement their income?

4. Keep it clean. You're currently coming across as a mean-minded, spiteful sort of person who doesn't appear to have much depth and

takes the easy option of vitriol and personal insult. As LP says, you won't be taken seriously unless you raise your game.

I'd love to be able to retract the 'Gríscín' label I gave you, but you have to grow up first.

by LP Sun Feb 17, 2008 17:57

By the way, great pics! Fair play, Sean and Paula.

by LP Sun Feb 17, 2008 16:05

Ridiculous, again. The idea of people involved with Shell to Sea being "led" anywhere shows an extraordinarily poor grasp of what is an unusually open organisation (especially when compared with the various secretive pro-Shell groups, PEGG etc.). I take it you're not a regular at the Glenamoy meetings, Len? As for prison, the government's violent no-arrest policy ensures that most people, no matter how often they peacably break public order and traffic statutes, don't even see the inside of a squad car, never mind a prison. In fact, given the government's stance, it would be more accurate to speak of people being "led" to hospital. By Fianna Fail and the Greens.

by LP Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:25

"So-called doorstep' What would you call it, Len? By the way, there won't be any gas delivered to Mayo houses outside of the odd town. So it won't cost anything to bring it to my doorstep, nor Maura's, nor many others'. Even if it were, it would be Bord Gais doing the delivering, not the "Corrib Gas Partners". Shell have no responsibility for any of it south of the Belmullet-Ballycastle road.

by Len Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:06

you know your right but can you tell all us idiots how much it cost to find the gas and how much it costs to get it your so called doorstep?

by lulu Sat Feb 16, 2008 14:17

& Victory to the Erris People & Shell to Sea! Brave & worthy people, you show up the hooers who put money above all else. The land & people of Erris are priceless.

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Sat Feb 16, 2008 13:59

Last verse and chorus of NOTAB song (written 2001)

Our oil and our gas rights are ceded for a fraction of what they are worth
While the old lie on hospital trolleys and the poor are forgotten or mocked
The wealth which is ours is extracted, sold back at the full market rate
Are we still a proud sovereign nation or a sordid brown envelope state?

Oh heres to the people of Erris
We''ve clean water, clean air and clean soil
We've known hard times and forced emigration
We'll get by without Enterprise Oil ... and Royal Dutch Shell as well!

(Air - Men o' the West)

by Sean Og Sat Feb 16, 2008 07:10

Ah Shell Oil, Shell Oil and the 'Princess Rile'
Shakin' Bertie's greasy hands
Sure ye'll get far more resistance
Than ye got in bought off lands
Bertie lick their piles and the 'Princess Rile's'
And we'll send up your Gardai
For ta STICK YER GAS RIGHT UP YER ARSE
And blow SHELL OIL TA SEA!

by Seán Ryan Fri Feb 15, 2008 18:53

...

Watching you watching me

'Contain them for God's sake - it might infect others!'

Even the children are fighting

by Seán Ryan Fri Feb 15, 2008 18:48

A besieged people came to Dublin yesterday, more than 200 miles, to face the enemy and give Shell's pet Government a taste of its own medicine. Don't get me wrong; unlike the young and the old of Mayo, no politician was under any threat of physical violence or harm. Nonetheless, for close to five hours, the wretched remained indoors in their bought and paid for palace.

They came to show the world at large and us that they were not for sale and, that they hadn't gone away and neither were they going to. The demo was a striking mixture of humour and defiance. On the bullhorn across the street from the Dáil, Naoise reflected the protester's mood in strong and proud voice, that faltered not once for more than four and a half hours. In the last hour he even sang a song or two - determination is a powerful motivator and balm. Passers-by stood in rapt admiration and were amazed and disgusted that they had contributed to the €20 million that has been spent on ensuring that the Gardaí act as thugs on behalf of Shell, to try to force an abomination on a people without their consent.

It hasn't worked.

It won't work.

That's the message that these people of dignity came to deliver. If only those behind and in the bars of Leinster House had such dignity and backbone.

by Jane Fri Feb 15, 2008 16:04

Well done in Dublin. But did you note that when you were away the surveyors entered your land and in fear of its life Shell had its progress spread in the Independent today. You really keep them on their toes. Shows up their sneakiness.
An African proverb asks if you have ever been in bed with a mosquito? Well Shell giant fears Rossport mosquito.

by Chrissie Thu Feb 14, 2008 19:48

The Gov't still haven't realised that the Erris people won't give up the land to destruction. Why should that dear baby grow up where the air isn't safe for breathing? Well done, all.