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category national | eu | opinion/analysis author Monday August 25, 2008 14:01author by Henk Ruyssenaars - Foreign correspondent - Foreign Press Foundationauthor email fpf at chello dot nl Report this post to the editors

In the European countries 70% want their voice and vote back.

The EU 'presidents' and prime ministers keep betraying the 490 million people in the 27 EU countries. To avoid another defeat, the managers of the EU decided not to hold any referenda at all, but the referendum in Ireland could not be avoided. The Irish European Affairs minister Roche however, said the Irish had to vote in another referendum. Until they vote Yes?



Monday, 25 August 2008 - The Irish republic’s European Affairs Minister, Dick Roche ''raised the prospect of a second Lisbon Treaty referendum last night, saying he believes it is "the appropriate response" to the country’s continuing political crisis. The Minister said: "My personal view is that a referendum is the appropriate response to the position we are in. This is very much a personal view at this stage. If we want to retain our position as a constructive EU member State, we cannot simply sit on our hands, as some would have us do, and keep saying that 'No means No'."

This Roche is not only bad for the Irish people, but also bad for humanity in general, especially in the European Union. 490 million human beings (minus some profiteers) in the other 26 EU countries, pinned their hope on the Irish NO-voters, which - and that was great! - used their brains too. Other European people we like too, but not this 'fine print EU treaty' which nobody could nor can read. And no normal human being wants to sign a blank check. Right?

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AND A SHAME

And, it's expected but still absolutely incredible and a shame, what kind of lies and propaganda this Roche for his managers dares to spout: "We have to recognise, however, that all other member states - 26 sovereign, democratic parliaments - are likely to have ratified the treaty by the end of the year."

This cowardly compliant Roche knows it as well, but he's lying about it, that NONE of the other European countries even was allowed to hold a referendum about the totalitarian EU production unit and their own future. A totalitarian future with low wages and high taxes. One named, not chosen EU president, one (named, not chosen) 'parliament', one kind of money, the Euro, one police, one mail, one of everything, and the owners of those 'ones' decide how and what, and of course all the prices people are going to pay.

VOICES AND VOTES STOLEN

Their voices and votes have been stolen from them by EU creatures like Roche, even if Ireland twice, and the French and Dutch people loudly said NO to this blank Euro check earlier.

'European Affairs' Roche also said: "This will leave Ireland in an isolated position," and that's a lie too. Ireland is not isolated, on the contrary, the EU crooks are up against the wall, and the rest of the EU wants their voices back, like the Irish have them, and vote NO!

As written earlier: Like in Ireland, 70% of the Europeans want a referendum. The majority of people want their voice and vote back: ''Voters in five EU countries want treaty referendum,'' was the result of a poll published by Thomson and the Financial Times in London, a scoop-like item which was also reprinted in the bible of the money makers, Forbes: "A substantial majority of voters in five large European Union countries want a referendum on the bloc's new reform treaty, according to a poll published Thursday."

70% WANT THEIR VOICE AND VOTE BACK

To phrase it nicely, the 'very underreported' result of a poll last november, among people in five EU countries, resulted in an average of seventy percent (70%) saying they want a referendum. They want their voices and votes back, want the "Treason of Lisbon" stopped in it's tracks, and people absolutely do NOT want a totalitarian European Union, as planned. They want their right back to vote NO too! And protested in Lisbon too: https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/10/384109.html

Because what happened in the Portuguese capital, was the EU presidents and PM's betraying the hundreds of millions of people in the 27 countries. As I also wrote: "In Lisbon, and to avoid another defeat, the managers of the EU have decided not to hold any referenda at all. Hundreds of millions of EU people in the 27 countries thus have the right to vote about their own lives and destiny stolen: they have all been betrayed again by their champagne drinking political personnel, and the screwed people pay the bill too.

Whether they want it or not, the Euros are taken from their wallets. To take just one EU example: 61% of the Dutch has sleeping problems because they don't know anymore how to pay the bills in the highest taxed country in the world. And - according to official figures (CPB) - more than one million people must be seen as poor. In one of the richest countries in the world! It proofs again how the usurers write 'EU-rules' which result in rampant poverty for the majority of the people in the EU countries.

THIS IS CROSSING THE RUBICON

As former Czech President Vaclav Klaus, in 'Mlada Fronta Dnes' said concerning the EU plans: "This is crossing the Rubicon, after which there will be no more sovereign states in Europe with fully-fledged governments and parliaments which represent legitimate interests of their citizens, but only one state will remain. Basic things will be decided by a remote 'federal government' in Brussels and, for example, Czech citizens will be only a tiny particle whose voice and influence will be almost zero. We are against a European superstate." [andend] - More information at Url.: http://antwerpen.indymedia.org/news/2007/10/12837.php

According to the writings of the EU crooks themselves, the so called and by them made 'agreement' or 'treaties', like the treacherous Lisbon Treaty, have by the NO votes become 'null and void'. It says so explicitly in the referenda rules. But here again is this traitor Roche doing the bidding of the London 'dark forces', the financial cartel and the warlords in The City.

Quote concerning the European Union too: "As the former British Prime Minister of England during the late 1800s Benjamin D'Israeli wrote: "So you see... the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes" (Coningsby, The Century Co., N.Y., 1907, p. 233)." And for those who don't know yet who decides what the funny money in their wallets is worth: "The Evil Empire Revisited" - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/zqzy8

ANALYSIS OF WHY THE PEOPLE VOTED NO

According to the Belfast Telegraph article today: "The Irish government is especially wary of being seen to be offering a prescription to the people, before it even receives an analysis of why the people voted No. The results of a major survey of public opinion on the referendum will be received next month, and Taoiseach Brian Cowen will then bring his analysis of why the plebiscite was defeated to other EU Heads of Government."

Concerning the expected profit and power for the criminal cartel in London, Roche dared to say: "In the view of the other member states; we will be preventing the EU from equipping itself to deal with the many political and economic challenges facing today’s Europe."

What Roche and his EU mafia in reality mean is: we want to rob all of them, not just a small group of countries. And he, representing the murderous money mafia in London, fakes - like the gangsters - to not understand that NO means NO!

But please, take them down! One way or another and as many as you can. For what they do, better said commit, we have a word in The Netherlands where in dutch it's called 'roofmoord'. Meaning robbery and murder in one. And that's what they further want in the European Union.

We are doing our best in Holland and the rest of the EU too.

Because we better stop them. before they stop us.

HENK RUYSSENAARS

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author by anti imperialistpublication date Mon Aug 25, 2008 20:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It makes a nice change from what the political elites all over the EU are saying. Keep up the solidarity as the media will soon be unleashed on the No campaigns especially libertas as they seem to see them as a major threat.

author by anthony innespublication date Wed Jul 29, 2009 01:39author email antin04 at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Just like the Irish kept the flame of literacy going it the dark ages the NO vote re the EU shows that this great Nation can still think for itself.The Bank for International Settlements cartel is dertroying soveriegn nations with its war mongering fiat money ponzi agenda.Having thrown off the British so recently this great little country is understandably cautious before letting another foriegn bully run their game.
Henk Rysenaars is one of the few commentators who is not a shill for the MSM and the banksters.Real information from Indy media.Heartfelt thanks.

 
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