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Wearing of the poppy

category international | miscellaneous | feature author Tuesday November 24, 2009 17:25author by N.G.A. - National Graves Associationauthor email admin at nga dot ieauthor phone 087 2282033 Report this post to the editors

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The view of the National Graves Association on the wearing of the poppy.


A Chara

The debate about whether or not to wear a British poppy in Ireland has once again engaged the general public.

The same arguments for and against are once again presented. The most cited argument in favour seems to be “Remember those Irishmen who perished in WW1”. The most cited against seems to be a belief that wearing a poppy in Ireland is an attack on those who support the concept of the Irish Nation State and an insult to those who died fighting for it. Many of these and other, controversial points can be laid to rest simply by reading some of the ample information on the wearing of the poppy provided by the Royal British Legion. They and they alone produce and distribute the poppy.

On the legions official website they state that virtually all of the survivors of WW1 are now deceased. They then go on to state that the poppy should be worn to support all the British Military Service Personal who served in all conflicts since 1945. The wearing of the Poppy is to honour ALL current and former British Soldiers, Sailors and Air Men in all conflicts. This is stressed again and again by the British Legion and repeated by British Politicians and commentators. To further emphasize this point the Legion dedicates the wearing of the poppy each year to serving soldiers. This year it is dedicated to those in Afghanistan and last year it was dedicated to “our heroes in Basra” . This means that wearing the Poppy in Ireland honours all the British Soldiers who committed all the atrocities in Ireland. You can not conveniently isolate the wearing of the Poppy in Ireland to WW1 and WW2. You can not simply ignore the fact that you are honouring the Black and Tans, the Murders of Bloody Sunday (both), the executioners of 1916 and so forth

Every year some media commentators tell us yet again that we should wear a poppy to remember the Irish soldiers who died in WW1. Indeed we should remember. We should remember that no Irish soldiers died in WW1. Unfortunately tens of thousands of British soldiers, recruited in Ireland did loose their young lives in that terrible conflict. We should also remember the many Irish soldiers who did die at the time of WW1. They died in Ireland, most died fighting the British army, some were executed, while some were simply murdered.

There was much publicity recently when the Grangemockler G.A.A. club in Tipperary held commemorative events dedicated to “our greatest son” Michael Hogan. The Hogan stand in Croke Park is named in honour of him. Michael Hogan was but one of the 14 civilians shot dead in Croke Park by British soldiers on November 21st 1920, an event that quickly became known as Bloody Sunday.

This year the G.A.A. celebrates its 125th anniversary a truly great achievement. The association has had to adapt and compete with the many codes of sports now so readily available to our youth. This weekend will see the Republic of Ireland team play France in Croke Park a week before the anniversary of Bloody Sunday. I am sure some people will pause on the night to remember. I hope they choose to remember the victims’ of Bloody Sunday especially the children, rather than the uniformed thugs who murdered them. “Lest we forget”

Is Mise

Sean Whelan (Chairperson)
National Graves Association
Box 7105
74 Dame Street
Dublin 2

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   The English Co-operative women's guild first distributed white poppies for peace in 1933     -    Sat Nov 21, 2009 00:41 
   Grow Up.     Pete.    Sat Nov 21, 2009 01:00 
   Just a "mere flower" ?     Alec    Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:31 
   Remember Fallujah     Ashling Gere    Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:20 
   Poppy Pete missing the pint     Pat    Sat Nov 21, 2009 14:26 
   I was with you untill....     AR    Sun Nov 22, 2009 01:08 
   Who were the terrorists?     Ashling Gere    Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:38 
   Wearing a poppy     Fred Johnston    Sun Nov 22, 2009 15:18 
   Read the article     raeder    Sun Nov 22, 2009 20:00 
 10   Fred, I think the very last guy from WWI died recently...     PoppyLove    Sun Nov 22, 2009 21:25 
 11   poppy     Rogue    Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:06 
 12   Lest we Forget     Fred Johnston    Mon Nov 23, 2009 14:03 
 13   More than a Flower     D O D    Mon Nov 23, 2009 17:44 
 14   war     pablo    Mon Nov 23, 2009 21:58 
 15   put up or shut up     norfolk enchants    Tue Nov 24, 2009 03:35 
 16   Red Poppies Can Be Worn To End All Wars Too.     John    Tue Nov 24, 2009 06:46 
 17   Maybe the Irish ought to wear the green shamrock.     john    Tue Nov 24, 2009 08:32 
 18   What?     skippys friend    Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:57 
 19   History lesson     Fred Johnston    Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:17 
 20   Ok Fred , you've nothing to worry about     tomeile    Tue Nov 24, 2009 13:33 
 21   bizarre     man without pointed hat    Tue Nov 24, 2009 14:54 
 22   The above seems a reasonable question     Derek J. O'Connor    Tue Nov 24, 2009 15:56 
 23   Pin all your dead down on your lapel or broochspace, why not?     gurgling jayzhus    Tue Nov 24, 2009 16:55 
 24   picture     puzzled    Tue Nov 24, 2009 19:10 
 25   Can someone explain?     An Puca    Tue Nov 24, 2009 19:29 
 26   Extremely Unpatriotic for Irish People to Wear the Poppy - a symbol of Ireland’s Greatest Enemy     Jacqueline Fallon    Tue Nov 24, 2009 19:59 
 27   @puzzled     ImageAnalyst    Tue Nov 24, 2009 22:05 
 28   wear a purple opium poppy for peaceful smack production in Afghanistan!     -    Wed Nov 25, 2009 09:24 
 29   Ribbons and bows.     paul o toole    Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:59 
 30   remembrance     tomeile    Wed Nov 25, 2009 15:55 
 31   What's in a name?     Fred Johnston    Wed Nov 25, 2009 19:30 
 32   straight question     JF    Wed Nov 25, 2009 20:15 
 33   No time for anyone celebrating the British Imperialist Army     Jacqueline Fallon    Wed Nov 25, 2009 22:26 
 34   Revisionism alive and operating in Ireland     Tom Cooper    Wed Nov 25, 2009 22:37 
 35   contradictions     The Sense Police    Thu Nov 26, 2009 00:04 
 36   Not mutually exclusive     Fred Johnston    Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:06 
 37   So where's your patriotism?     Patriot    Fri Nov 27, 2009 19:37 
 38   No blood poppies in Ireland     Marta    Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:18 
 39   LINK - MILITARY ADBUSTING IN ENGLAND - Bring'em Home!     Ciaron    Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:17 
 40   Dont put it on     Sean O'Cathasaigh    Sat Dec 19, 2009 20:44 
 41   "The rationale at large"?     Serial Mailer    Sun Dec 20, 2009 09:52 
 42   well said "serial mailer"     Feudal castrato    Sun Dec 20, 2009 22:56 
 43   White Poppy     pat c    Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:46 
 44   Poppy     Daithi O    Wed Dec 23, 2009 14:11 
 45   Not for me     Justin Morahan    Mon Nov 11, 2013 17:09 
 46   No poppy, but an Easter lily?     Dub    Mon Nov 11, 2013 20:41 
 47   fool me once     Sassoon    Tue Nov 12, 2013 00:12 
 48   None     Dave    Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:21 
 49   what awful cynical rot!     poetry critic    Fri Nov 13, 2015 13:52 
 50   The Wearing of the Poppy but the Irish     Poppygirl    Wed Nov 15, 2017 21:12 
 51   you are incorrect in your "critique" poppy     fred    Thu Nov 16, 2017 03:30 
 52   Really?     Botanist    Thu Nov 16, 2017 09:22 
 53   you're wilfully ignoring what the author actually said for propaganda purposes     fred    Sat Nov 18, 2017 23:44 
 54   Oh dear reverts to puerile insults.     Botanist    Sat Nov 18, 2017 23:54 
 55   your sort are the lowest of the low     fred    Sun Nov 19, 2017 03:22 
 56   Thank you.     Botanist    Sun Nov 19, 2017 09:57 
 57   more sly smearing of 1916 rebels     fred    Mon Nov 20, 2017 01:02 
 58   You speak of one sided propagandists?     Botanist    Mon Nov 20, 2017 06:42 
 59   More one sided propaganda     Botanist    Mon Nov 20, 2017 06:55 


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