Who are the anti Semites?

Thursday August 22, 2002 03:36

by Kirk

Religious fanatical Chutzpah knows no bounds. But, when you are, God's Chosen people, normal rules don't apply to you. It is perfectly acceptable to criticize any nation on the earth for its errors and wrongs, but lo and behold, don't you dare criticize Israel; for if you do that, you will be accused by the programmed masses of the most abominable sin in the modern world, the unforgivable sin of anti-Semitism the weapon of mass distraction and Censored!

So, now we know that criticizing Israel is quote "anti-Semitism" and thus is morally equivalent mass murder, Jews and Israel must never ever be criticized, no matter what crime is committed, no matter how one might feel the need to speak out.

We learn that to criticize the campaign of terror and ethnic cleansing that drove 1,400,000 Palestinians from their homes, businesses, and farms during the creation of Israel is "anti-Semitism."

That to criticize hundreds of Israeli massacres of unarmed men, women and children, such as at Dier Yassin and the Sabre and Chatila massacre in Lebanon, is "anti-Semitism."

That to criticize the fifty odd-years, brutal military occupation of the West Bank and its 2.5 million people is anti-Semitism.

That to criticize the Israeli torture of over 500,000 Palestinians in their prisons is "anti-Semitism."

That to criticize Israel for firing thousands of missiles over the last few years into crowded cities and refugee camps killing women and children in their beds mostly, is anti-Semitic."

That to criticize the repeated Israeli spying against and damaging of the governments of the world as in the Jonathan Pollard case, is just anti-Semitism.

That to criticize the Israeli terrorism against the United States in the Lavon Affair and the murderous attack on the USS Liberty is "anti-Semitism."

Jewish supremacists think that they are the new Gods, and that any criticism of them and the fanatical religious state of Israel is equivalent to blasphemy and heresy!

Such an attitude exposes these religious fanatics that threatens not only Palestinian life and freedom, but also our own, for these religious fanatics are attempting to make legitimate criticism of Israel considered the moral equivalent to a criminal act and thus beyond consideration by thinking people.
It is really disheartening to consider the current state of the world media and culture.
These religious fanatics thoroughly dominate our major media. They can blackmail any politician or public figure into silence. But this control is not enough for them, now they seek to make any criticism of Israel the equivalent to blasphemy. When will the world’s people wake up? When will we break these religious fanatics stranglehold on the world media and on the global populations mind?

But, unless we men and women of honor begin to speak out, far more people than the Palestinians will suffer from these religious fanatics human lives and interests will continue to fall to religious terrorism such as occurred on 9-11, a terrorism born from treasonous American officials who have put supporting Israel's criminal actions and theier own personal profit above the true interests of the American people.

The obvious anti Semitism and most disturbing is that of the slaughter of the Palestinian civilians who ARE Semites at the hands of the religious fanatics that rule occupied Palestine. We should beware of the ones who cry anti-Semitism, especially while they are slaughtering Semites by the thousands.

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Thousands? Why not Billions?

by Michael

Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:08

Anti-semites have never worried about what Jews thought of them.

Articles such as the above seek to cast doubt over genuine claims of anti-semitism as they arise. This is deliberately done to disarm Jews who are being deliberately targeted as such from any form of reply.

Looking at the above article, I see the typical boring argument about how Arabs are Semites as well. It then comments: that Israel is "slaughtering Semites by the thousands" referring of course to the Palestinians.

This is an outright LIE.

Even IDN's bodycount which applies no context whatsoever to the Palestinians who died (for example by pointing out that they dies while trying to murder an Israeli) doesn't come CLOSE to this figure.

Religious fanatics who rule "Occupied Palestine"? The author clearly has no understanding of what makes Israel an island in the whole Middle-East... That the country is NOT ruled by a religious fanatic anything. It is ruled by a democratically (not despotically) elected government, WHICH I might add CAN be ousted by the people if they decide. Compare that to the Palestinian Authority who shoots dissidents as collaborators, or Iran, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan etc. etc.

Then, the article goes on to suggest that Americans are responsible for September 11, not the ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS who perpetrated the act itself.

Let's get something straight.

Israel is a Jewish State.
To criticise Israel is not anti-semitism.
To criticise Israeli policy is not anti-semitism.
To speak out about the above is not anti-semitism.

BUT, to do the above IN SPITE of it being Israel (and therefore Jewish) *IS* anti-semitism. To lie and deceive in order to turn people against the Jews (or Israel) *IS* anti-semitism.

Protests in George Street Sydney ostensibly against Israeli Government are fine. Indeed it's a right most Arabs DON'T have and seem to take for granted here. But, when the placards are featuring Swastikas and people are chanting "death to the Jews" in English and Arabic? THAT'S anti-semitism. Any questions?

To spend your whole time bleating about Palestinian mistreatment, and laying the boot into Israel and Jews while TOTALLY ignoring what happens to the Kurds, the Chechens, the Aboriginals etc. etc. etc. simply because THEY aren't involved with Israel... THAT'S anti-semitism.

Do that, and I WILL call you an anti-semite. Want to have an intelligent *truthful* (cough...IDN...cough) debate, and I might disagree with you, but that's all.

Now run away "me again" and the other poster and tell sydney.indymedia what backstabbing baby-murdering blood drinkers the Jews are... THEN add articles like the above to try and trump accusations of anti-semitism.

Oh, and "me again", you can come down off the bandwagon now...

damned lies

by Turing

Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:16

Isreal is NOT "non-religious", Mike.

Even the Jewish Virtual Lie Brary claims that Jews have a right to the land becausea fucking deity gave it to them!

Burning flags is destruction of a re_producable symbol.

Do not confuse the map with the territory, Mark.

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Confusing the Map for the Territory

by Jim Walker
Originated: 10 Feb. 2001
Additions made: 23 Feb. 2001

Homo sapiens spend more time thinking and doing violence to their own species than any other mammal species. Considering our capacity to do devastating worldwide damage, it might benefit us to understand its causes. There must occur prerequisite reasons why we developed a desire to do harm to members of our own species, and one of these reasons must have stemmed from the very language from which we speak and write.

Regrettably, our attempt to understand our dangerous motives aims too high in the hierarchy of our culture and we continually miss the target. We look at political, religious, and ideological motives instead of the common bases for all of them-- the way we think, and in this case a specific kind of thinking we call belief. Belief comes as an emergent property from our spoken and written language. And if we ever wish to understand our errors, it appears impossible without understanding the mechanism of belief.

Unlike any other known life form, humans have evolved a capacity to create and manipulate symbols and to compare them with the outside word (by "outside world" I mean anything external to human body). This capacity allowed the transference of symbols from the mind to symbols outside the body and mind. By creating unique vocal patterns or artful scratching designs on stone, wood, or papyrus, somehow we learned how to compare the sounds and designs to thoughts in the mind. By learning and teaching how to remember the symbols through the use of a common code, an alphabet, we gained the ability to communicate our ideas through space and time. With these linguistic tools emerges the spoken and written language.

Automatically, the invention of written language produced a special and exciting result. What an innovation to store your thoughts on a physical object, giving it to a messenger, and transferring your thought to another human being that lives miles away, or at some future time. Writing allows the storage of ideas that one can recall after a day, a week, or years after. It must have seemed like magic to those at the dawn of the invention of writing. Archeologists tell us that the first known writing came from Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets at only around 5,000 years ago, just a flash of an instant compared to evolutionary time. Not surprisingly, the first writings consisted of pictograms or drawings representing actual things. Though repeated use over time, they began to look simpler and more abstract.

Unfortunately, out of linguistic thought emerges a dangerous flaw that stems from a lack of understanding the difference between the symbols and the things they aim to represent. We sometimes confuse the two by believing in them even when their representations no longer exist. The originator of general semantics, Alfred Korzybski came up with the phrase, "A map is not the territory" meaning that a map can describe a territory in some similar structure that allows us to traverse the land, which gives us a useful tool, but that our perception of the map can never equal the territory, but only our version of it, our map. All symbolism acts in this manner. All information comes to us as second hand. Everything we perceive from the outside world comes delayed, even if by only a few milliseconds, and processed by our brains into linguistic symbols. We may live in the present, but our thoughts reflect the past. We only have maps to refer to and nothing else. So the determination of what terrains our maps reflect to can present difficulties since any information, even if imagined or dreamt, can seem just as real to us as those that come from the outside world.

For example, you can create a mental symbol to represent a cat. If your cat walks into view, you can think about it with your internal language. (If you don't have a cat, then get one. Everyone should have a cat, and will make the following easier to understand.) This internal representation of your cat also allows you to remember and think about it even when your cat has walked away. Marvelously, the storage system of your brain allows the idea of the cat to outlive the cat itself. With the unfortunate eventual death of your cat, you will still have the capacity to remember for the simple reason that your brain continues to hold the symbols of your cat in the matrix of your neurons. In this sense, the cat appears to exist, but only as a set of symbols.

But in another capacity, our brains can also attach emotions to the symbols themselves. Remembering your cat at different times in your past can evoke different emotions depending on how you felt the first time you remembered them. So not only do your cat symbols exist, but an emotional trigger follows them as well even after the death of your pet. These cat thoughts and feelings seem identical to the thoughts you had of your cat while it lived. In this sense, it feels as if your cat still exists. And if you mistake the symbols for the thing, you can develop an error of believing in essences, spooks and all sorts of afterlifes.
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