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category national | miscellaneous | press release author Sunday March 29, 2015 14:33author by Bernard Moffatt - Celtic League Report this post to the editors

Aer Lingus Crash 1968 Tuskar Rock

Despite three reports on this mysterious, the last of which was the 'final word', ambiguities still persist and the most credible version of events would still seem to be the original report from1970 which drew on eye witness accounts.

NEWS FROM THE CELTIC LEAGUE

AIRLINER CRASH ALMOST 50 YEARS ON THE MYSTERY REMAINS

The airliner tragedy this week provoked swift action by governments and the airline and within days grieving relatives of some sense of what unfolded in the last minutes of the Germanwings flight.

Paradoxically this week marked the anniversary of an equally inexplicable airliner tragedy over the Irish Sea.

It is now almost fifty years since Aer Lingus flight EI712 crashed on Sunday March 24th 1968 off the Wexford Coast.

The plane was just minutes into a routine flight from Cork to Dublin when control was lost and after descending for over 10 minutes in a spiral path the aircraft crashed into the sea near Tuskar Rock. All 61 people on board died.

The initial report (by R W Sullivan Inspector of Accidents) was able to interview a number of eye witnesses and speculated on several possible causes for the accident and pointedly did not rule out a collision with another airborne object or missile. This last possible scenario was seized on much later because of the proximity of the Aberporth missile test range and its associated airfield at Llanbedr where unmanned aerial target aircraft were deployed.

The UK government steadfastly denied any involvement.

However as pressure built up fifteen years ago the Irish government set up what they hoped would be the definitive independent enquiry.

(Note: This is the 2002 Independent Study Enquiry the full detail of it and the other Enquiry Reports the Original 1970 report and the AAIU Review Report 2000 are available in pdf at the link below – as indicated the UK AAIB reprt was shredded).

Though undertaken over thirty years after the event the new (Independent Study Team) enquiry traduced the airborne collision theory of Sullivan’s original report and based its results (as it saw it) firmly on structural or mechanical failure. To this end it predicated its conclusions on Aer Lingus maintenance data that was ‘discovered’.

However doubts still remain not least because of ambiguities to do with data about the crash (or more accurately the lack of it) in Ireland and the UK.

For example when the new enquiry was conveyed as indicated above it drew heavily on Aer Lingus records and yet only months before in 1999 the Irish Transport Minister Mary O’Rourke had expressed her amazement when her Department was informed that Aer Lingus had not produced a written report immediately after the accident in 1968 – yet years later evidence was apparently available.

Things were no better on the other side of the Irish Sea Glenda Jackson (Sec of State for Transport) confirmed in answer to a question from Plaid Cymru MP Dafydd Wigley:

“Ms Glenda Jackson [holding answer 17 March 1998]: The Air Accidents Investigation Branch file relating to this accident was reviewed by the Department of Transport in September 1994. It was not selected by the Public Record Office for permanent preservation in the National Archive and was destroyed at that time.”

It seems incredible that a file on one of the worst air disasters (pre-Lockerbie) to occur in the British Isles should not have been retained at the National Archive.

It is even more surprising that the record had been ‘completely lost’ as a few months later in answer to another query from Dafydd Wigley Glenda Jackson confirmed that:

“The investigation into the accident that occurred to the Aer Lingus Viscount aircraft on 24 March 1968 was conducted by Air Accident Investigation officials of the Irish Department of Transport and Power. The AAIB participated in the investigation. The Irish report was published in September 1970.”

Given Irish (AAIU) and UK (AAIB) investigators co-operated at the time of the crash it seems barely credible that a copy of the UK report was never shared with them. If as we believe it must have been then were copies in both the UK and Ireland shredded!

Also of relevance is the issue of the missing ships logs of several vessels which participated in the search and recovery operation immediately after the crash. Four vessels were involved in the operation and of these three of the logbooks had gone missing. Defence Secretary, John Reid told Kevin McNamara MP:

“Four MOD vessels were involved in the initial three day search for the Aer Lingus Viscount which crashed into the Irish Sea on 24 March 1968. Of these, my Department holds only the log book for HMS Penelope. Extensive searches have not revealed the whereabouts of those of the other three ships involved. I am placing a copy of the relevant pages of this log in the Library of the House.”

Note: Interestingly the MOD originally disputed our assertion saying that only two log books of Naval vessels where lost – they overlooked the fact that the logs from the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Uplifter which was on site recovering wreckage was also ‘lost’. Additionally the log of the ‘auxiliary’ Invermoriston also at the site was ‘lost’.

Invermoriston is something of a mystery vessel ostensibly a converted Ton Class minesweeper undertaking ‘search and rescue’ roles. The MOD told the AAIU enquiry:

‘UPLIFTER and INVERMORISTON were civilian manned blue ensign auxiliaries, not commissioned RN Ships. Logs of auxiliary vessels are not normally retained for more than four years as there is no legal requirement to do so.’

However Naval-History-Net which records all significant naval activities in its section refers to Invermoriston as ‘HMS’. It also records and names twelve RN ships involved in at the crash site (this does not include RFA vessels) an extraordinary number which despite having researched this issue over the years Celtic League were unaware of.

In addition the whereabouts of the Aberporth range safety vessel the ‘Hector Gull’ could not be confirmed on the day of the tragedy. With the Missile Range not operational it should have been easy to establish if the range safety vessel was in Port but this could not be done!

Note: We have placed the name of the Aberporth Range Safety Vessel in quotations because the original Celtic League query asked about the whereabouts of the ‘Aberporth Range Safety Vessel’. In their reply the MOD refer to the vessel (a converted trawler originally named Hector Gull) by that name. However by the time the vessel was commissioned and in service at Aberporth it was renamed Dolwen.

Finally there’s the mystery of the RAF flight from Belfast (Aldegrove) to Llanbedr (and return) 48 hours after the crash.

On the Monday after the crash the south-central Irish Sea was a frenzy of activity. A range of naval vessels (including those that lost their logbooks!) in the area plus a number of Irish naval service vessels and lifeboats were in the area. Search and Rescue aircraft (mainly RAF Shackleton Maritime Reconnaissance aircraft) combed the area. Aberporth was already ‘in the frame’ as a possible culprit but if we are to believe what the final enquiry concluded it was business as usual and officials from Shorts just ‘popped over’ to Llanbedr for a routine meeting. The meeting involved the introduction to service at the Aberporth Range of a new supersonic pilotless target aircraft the Shorts SD 2 (named the Stiletto) the discovery of SD2 debris near the crash site of the Aer Lingus plane focused attention on this. However once again the MOD categorically refuted any link saying testing of the SD2 did not commence until months after the March 24th crash in the Autumn of 1968.

However research by the Celtic League show the SD 2 programme was well ahead of schedule as a book published in 1967 one year before the crash records that Shorts in Belfast had already completed the adaption of the SD 2 launch aircraft, a converted Canberra bomber (Serial No. WE146): Source ‘Shorts Aircraft since 1900, Author CH Barnes, published by Putnam and Co, 1967 – Page 490.

The Celtic League still believes that the report by R W Sullivan is by far the more credible of the range of reports (which still survive) compiled. It was undertaken immediately after the event and had the benefit of eye witness testimony.

The jury is still out on the crash of EI712!

All the reports including the original by R W Sullivan can be found at the foot of the pages at this link:

http://www.aaiu.ie/node/5

Various UK parliamentary questions about the crash can be accessed at this link:

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/search/Aer+Lingus+Cr...age=2

Mary O’Rourke’s comment in the Dáil about the shredding of the UK AAIB report and also the lack of a written Aer Lingus enquiry report immediately after the accident can be found at this link:

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/1999/01/27/00152.asp

Report in the Irish Independent – Irish Minister Hugh Byrne highlights the missing log books and the lack of definite information on the whereabouts of Aberporth range safety vessel:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-in-plea-f....html

Note: In relation to the final part of the Independent news story above:

“They had also been unable to find any definite information on the whereabouts of Aberport (sic) range safety vessel Hector Gull but Aberport had a record of her leaving the range the evening of Friday March 22 1968.”

This is not accurate the MOD eventually admitted to the Celtic League that the range did continue operations into the morning of the 23rd of March although for almost thirty years they had insisted the range was closed on both the 23rd and 24th of March.

J B Moffatt (Mr)

Director of Information
Celtic League

27/03/15

(Please note that replies to correspondence received by the League and posted on CL News are usually scanned hard copies. Obviously every effort is made to ensure the scanning process is accurate but sometimes errors do occur.)

ISSUED BY THE CELTIC LEAGUE INFORMATION SERVICE.

The Celtic League has branches in the six Celtic Countries. It works to promote cooperation between these countries and campaigns on a broad range of political, cultural and environmental matters. It highlights human rights abuse, monitors all military activity and focuses on socio-economic issues

Internet site at:

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author by Mike Novackpublication date Wed Apr 01, 2015 03:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Question (since I know nothing else about this crash)

Was it clear? Or totally socked in clouds all the way down to the ground?

If the former, no idea. If the latter, perhaps failure of the "artificial horizon"? With the rudder straight, if the left wing is up, the plane spirals right, if the right wing up, spirals left, or of course, could be going straight ahead.. And no, you cannot feel that you are tipped left or right because the acceleration going around the circle exactly compensates for the tipping. Guessing wrong makes things much worse, so all the pilot can hope is to come out of the cloud before hitting the ground. Used to cause lots of crashes in the early days before the artificial horizon was invented (shows whether tipped left or right or level).

Even birds can't fly blind. Caught in this situation they would tip their wings up into a high dihedral position becoming self correcting from spiral instability. That's why free flight model airplanes have ever so much more dihedral than real planes, they have to be self correcting.

author by Matthewpublication date Wed Apr 01, 2015 20:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Minor point: I am pretty sure the flight was from Cork to London, not Dublin.

 
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