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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday April 08, 2002 15:30author by - Report this post to the editors

Report from ireland.com

The High Court has today rejected challenges to deportation made by
two families with Irish-born children.

The two cases concern Czech and Nigerian nationals who have children
born in the State.

Making his ruling today Mr Justice Thomas
Smyth granted the families leave to appeal the
ruling to the Supreme Court.

But he said: "This case not only turns on the
rights of the child but also on the powers of the
Oireachtas to control the passage of aliens into
the country."

The court heard that Czech national Mr David
Lobet applied for asylum with his pregnant wife
and three young children in March 1999. On
November 2nd 2001, his son Kevin was born in Galway University
Hospital. The family is now settled in Clifden.

Mr Lobet’s parents, one brother and one sister are also living in the
State. He has one brother living in the Czech Republic.

The court heard that Mrs Lobet had testified that the family had applied
in vain for asylum in the UK before travelling to Ireland.

The other deportation order being challenged in the High Court today was
against Nigerian national Mr Osyami. He arrived in the State with his
pregnant wife Nora and daughter Emmanuelle on May 6th 2001. Their
son was born in Ireland on October 4th 2001.

The court heard that Mr Osyami claimed he had never applied for asylum
in any other EU state before. But fingerprint evidence later proved he had
previously applied for asylum in the UK. Mr Osyami then testified that he
had entered the UK on September 15th 1999 under a false passport.

Both applications were transferred to the UK - the first EU member state
in which asylum procedures were initiated - under the Dublin Convention.
The Minister for Justice then issued deportation orders under the 1999
Immigration Act, the court was told.

Today Mr Justice Smyth said the court understood that an Irish-born
child did have the right "to live, be reared and educated in Ireland" under
the constitution, and agreed that it had the right to the company of its
parents.

But, he said, "it does not follow from this that the child has the right to
the society of its family in Ireland".

Justice Smyth said he agreed with the State’s view that when
non-national parents of Irish-born children are being deported, the
constitutional rights of their children are best met through the children
leaving with their families.

When those children are capable of independent living, he said, they
could live in Ireland if they chose

author by Paul G.publication date Mon Apr 08, 2002 15:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This judgment is a total disgrace. I don't know what constitution that judge is reading. It is obviouslya totallycorrupted and biased judgement. This goes to show how much the judiciary are in the hands of their political masters in Ireland. I'd like to know what party Smyth is in.

This judgment legalises the deportation of Irish citizens! It is amazing! Likesomething out of Facist Italy!

author by Raymond - Trinitypublication date Mon Apr 08, 2002 16:20author email coderrer at tcd dot ieauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

the right the family life as specified within the ECHR, and as presented within the case history of similar incidents, prevents the state from taking action which would hamper the development of family life. Although it does grant a level of marginal appreciation to the contracting state, these two cases, when considered in light of the circumstances, do meet the criteria as established by the case law of the ECHR.

In other words, the Oireachtas and the Seanad are in direct violation of the ECHR, and all support should be put behind the applicants if the supreme ct fails to rectify the situation.

author by publopublication date Mon Apr 08, 2002 18:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

After spending three years at law in uni, and repeatedly having the primacy of the family belted at me by the snide liberals, i am glad that the result of this judgement laeves it clear that their law is a tool of convenience with which they can do as they choose. There will be an appeal to the supreme court and maybe to europe, but that too is a forum which al too often panders to domestic politics and prejudices (such as the uk transsexual cases.
Fuck them and their abuse of the law, it remains for the people to decide what happens now.

 
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