Audio: Joe Higgins on Saturday View, and others

by Listener - CWI Personal Capacity Sun Jan 05, 2003 15:13

Just heard Joe. He's very interesting. Thought for a moment it was Neddy Seagoon --- an easy mistake to make.

But Joe is interesting. Better than a Max Bygraves LP. Where does he get his ties? He's always very well turned out -- a credit to the Trotskyist movement!

No if only Clair Daly would get a nice frock and do something about her hair she too could take her rightful place in Dail Eireann.

Did someone say Ray Cunningham was away for a facelift? I've missed his interesting posts telling people to "post a link and write a summary".

He would make a good attorney general. I know he's a bit of an anarchist but like the Spanish ones in 36 he could stretch a point and join the government couldn't he? I'm sure he'd be a lot nicer that McDowell.

by iosaf Sun Jan 05, 2003 18:51

the five anarchist who accepted ministries in the 1936 Spanish Republic did so under extreme circumstances, and represented the anarchist values of their assemblies.
They did not take part in all votes, their main contribution was resistance to the militarisation of the militias and providing of a free radio service.
This all occured during war.
a very nasty war.-
I listen to RTE too on occasion and I enjoy Joe Higgins appearances just as I enjoyed SF TD aongus o snodaigh on TD pay rates before Xmas.
From a distance you technical grouping co-members seem so alike :-)!!!!

by Genuine Socialist Mon Jan 06, 2003 21:20

This wouldn't be the same so-called 'Socialist Party' that seems to be supporting the undemocratic, CIA/bosses inspired attempt to overthrow the democratically elected President of Venzuela Hugo Chavez would it? No wonder you only get 1% of the popular vote in Ireland, and yet you have the fucking check to try and speak for the whole of the Left in Ireland.

by OK - SP Tue Jan 07, 2003 10:38

That sectarian actually thinks that the SP are "supporting the undemocratic, CIA/bosses inspired attempt to overthrow the democratically elected President of Venzuela Hugo Chavez".

Get a grip, the Socialist Party are not! I really do wonder where you people get your ideas.

by Hebe Tue Jan 07, 2003 11:58

Whatever about Jofe, other SP members have described Chavez as a Bonapartist and a Populist dictator who will eventualy betray the Venezuelan masses.

by red sp Tue Jan 07, 2003 14:29

You know it is possible to criticise Chavez, he's not some god figure that is perfect! CWI do raise criticisms of him, at the same time we do not support any right-wing coup. If you are going to criticise the Socialist Party/CWI why not read our positions first.

while I'm here I want to ask IMCers why they think Joe Higgins is different from the rest of the SP members? Hebe stated "Whatever about Joe....." What is it that make you people think that Joe holds radically different views to other SP/CWI members?

by Hebe Tue Jan 07, 2003 17:11

The guy who puts the SP positions rather extremely.

I wasn't reffering to Joe Higgins. However since you have raised the matter; there are those of us who would have respect for Joe Higgins due to his long record of activism and willingness to work with other people. He is totally non-sectarian.

The same is not true of some of the SP/SY members who post to indymedia.ie

I don't believe Joe or Clare canvass on the doorsteps of North and West Dublin for the right of the Orange Order to march down the Garvaghy Road.

by OK - SP Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:46

Do you honestly think that SP members do not honestly give our positions on all the various issues when asked on the doorsteps. When "Joe or Clare canvass on the doorsteps of North and West Dublin" they do give a full account of our positions when asked.

We are proud of our programme and analysis and we are happt to engage in an honest debate on the doorsteps. In my own experience that we get asked quite regularly about different points on our programme. Of course people dont always agree fully, but much of the time they do agree.

Finally, you're positng does not give an honest assessment on our position on Orange marches. But I'm sure you know that!

by Hebe Wed Jan 08, 2003 14:37

That is a fact.

You also blame Catholics for the situation at the Holycross school. I have yet to hear of the SP saying the blame for the bombing lies solely with loyalists.

You certainly have never put your support for orange marchs in election literature in the south.