CIE Workers to down tools on 'Day X'

by hurt them in the pocket Wed Mar 19, 2003 01:24

The 10 minute lark is pathetic even by the low standards of the swp. Mr Kinsella's suggestion of buses and other vehicles being used to block roads is far more effective. This could have huge impact against the weak underbelly of the US (war) economy, namely the many US multinationals based in Ireland.

by Retarded Revolutionary - personal incapacity Tue Mar 18, 2003 22:02

Bit of a moron are we Ailin? I disagree with "dun laoghaire lad". Not paralysing the centre of dublin will do nothing to help alleviate the suffering of the Iraqi people. There is no point in having anti war demonstrations if they don't inflict an economic cost on Ahern and his backers. We have already sent a clear and unified message to Ahern that we are aginast this war. That means that he's already got the message you dolt. He's IGNORING the message. It is time to MOVE ON. Which means that something other than trying to send messages will be needed. I take it you want to actually stop the war? Do what you want without thinking of the consequences to the overall movement which we have all seen work so well in Shannon.

by Paul Kinsella - Irish Anti War Movement Tue Mar 18, 2003 22:01 paulkinsella53 at yahoo dot com 53 Lorcan Grove, Santry, Dublin 9, Eire 087-9748511

Should have said "Maybe I didn't make that point clear enough in my original posting." Instead of "Maybe I didn't make the point clear enough in my original posting." Aaargh!

by Paul Kinsella - Irish Anti War Movement Tue Mar 18, 2003 21:56 paulkinsella53 at yahoo dot com 53 Lorcan Grove, Santry, Dublin 9, Eire 087-9748511

Even though I'm a member of the Irish Anti War Movement I do believe that the 10 minute work stoppage (tea break) is a bit of a joke considering that in many other countries people will be engaging in at the very least 1/2 day work stoppages on "Day X". I do agree though that Public Transport should operate to carry people to and from any actions that will happen on "Day X". From what I've been told, and what I also hope does happen is that the bus AND rail workers will do what they did during the huge PAYE tax marches of the late 1970s and early 1980s when they stopped work at 12 noon for an hour, then resumed a limited special, Nitelink type shuttle service to carry people to and from the PAYE tax demos and then once people were safely home from the demos they again stopped all Public Transport for the remainder of the day. On "Day X" they will probably keep a special bus and rail service going till 9pm to ensure that everyone gets home safely. Finally I should emphasise that its ALL CIE Workers (Dublin Bus, Mainline Irish Rail, the DART and Bus Eireann, and including mechanics, signaling staff, cleaners, drivers, inspectors, maintainance staff, refuelers etc) who will be downing tools at 12 noon on "Day X", not just Dublin Bus drivers. Maybe I didn't make the point clear enough in my original posting.

Paul Kinsella
Irish Anti War Movement (Personal view)

by silo Tue Mar 18, 2003 13:58

(By 'copied below' I meant 'see above', of course. Doh.)

by silo Tue Mar 18, 2003 13:57

Dun Laoghaire Lad's comment (copied below) is trolling rubbish, and not even particularly well done. Ignore.

by Ailin Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:15

Bit of a fascist are we? I agree with dun laoghaire lad. Paralysing the centre of dublin will do nothing to help alleviate the suffering of the Iraqi people. There is no point in having anti war demonstrations if the only people at them are the bus drivers. We want to send a clear and unified message to Ahern that we are aginast this war. That means as many people as possible should make their way into town to protest in the same area. Which means public transport will be needed. I take it you support the grassroots against war stance? Do what you want without thinking of the consequences to the overall movement which we have all seen work so well in Shannon.

by dun laoghaire lad - Irish Citizen Tue Mar 18, 2003 04:51

You guys are really showing what you are all about - damaging society - it was never about the war - its about destroying the state and the government - if the war starts you have a stark choice back good or bad - by striking you are directly backing Saddam.

If you really cared about the Iraqi people you would be pushing for fast resolution to the war and demanding the US/UK doesnt use inds weps.

Then again that wouldn't get Boyd-Barret and the rest of the SWP, the hijackers of the AWM any votes at the next local elections!

Its time for us in Labour to withdraw our support from this action.

by Retarded Revolutionary - personal incapacity Tue Mar 18, 2003 01:53

Why does everyone have to go into the center of Dublin for a f***king march? What's the point of a strike that allows everything to go on as usual.

Close the f****ing country down. Strike where you are.

Do we have to keep shops open so that marchers can buy sweeties?

Do we have to keep newspapers staffed so that marchers can see pictures of themselves?

Do we have to et-f***king cetera

Strike or shut the f**k up.

by Ailin Tue Mar 18, 2003 01:15

A day long strike by Bus Drivers on Day "X" would only prevent people from getting to anti war demonstrations in the city center. Most of the people I know who went to the Feb 15th march did so by bus and would be unable to attend in the event of a withdrawal of public transport. I think they are right to have a small protest of less than an hour as they would show their opposition to the war but would also play a bigger part by getting protestors into town.

by Damien Tue Mar 18, 2003 00:20

Too late for a mere 10 minute stoppage. We must bring the entire country to a complete standstill.
We should also consider a consumer strike, aimed primarily at US and British owned businesses.

by Seamus Brennan Mon Mar 17, 2003 23:48

if they stay out longer their ass will be canned. god save ireland from public sector unions

by J Dornan - Socialist Party Mon Mar 17, 2003 23:01 02890 232962

Great step forward. Now we must use this example to build resistance by all workers.