Did the government in Greece chose to close Indymedia Greece????

by st3 Mon Apr 07, 2003 03:01

It's just due to a technical matter. They're installing freebsd instead of linux

by ANTIFACIST Mon Apr 07, 2003 04:02

After the giant anti-war demonstration (that became anti-goverment) in Thursday 3 April the programme was surrounding the base in Creta Saturday. Ecofin meeting in Athens Saturday Olympic day in Athens Sunday. The goverment is struggling because the results in all points of activities are horrible. Terrible numbers in economics, unemployment, enviroment and total destruction of the global politismic heritage existed in Greece while the money from EU running as river straight to some pockets.
INDYMEDIA GREECE is the only indepeded media for communication anf first target for this goverment's slaves. So INDYMEDIA desappeard in this crusial moments 3 April without any kind of announcement since 5 April.
In another Greek sites some people from the Indy team they say they didn't know why was crashed and "propably was activity by US Embassy".
When they understund that communication immigrants use UK INDY and ITALIAN INDY and they find out that the problem propably could be only by inside of INDYMEDIA GREECE, after two days (5 April) the team said that the server failed because of programmed updates at the server in USA. If they were programmed those updates why didn't announsed them earlier? Why they said about the US Embassy?
Why they waited two days with crashed INDY to inform about the updates?
Till now is clear that INDY GREECE crashed and the team didn't offer a clear excuses but change announcements from day to day.
When INDY, if ever will start working (after the storm for the goverment passes) will be clear whom to blame.
Today is 7 April and still without INDYMEDIA GREECE. The server is alive answering but access denied.
Also at 16 April all the leaders will be in Athens and security will be horrible. They are planning to rise walls so not even eye contact will be allowed to them and to us.
They will not permit free walking on the streets. The only reason for this security is to keep the EU leaders far from the problems that GREECE is facing by this goverment and its policy and how is destroying EU money to catastrophic projects for the state and citizens. They will try to show a face that the poor Greek citizens are terrorists and how well they manage the problem of "terrorism".
They will try to take the hell out of the leaders and so they will take more money for the five pockets with the excuse of the problems of terrorism that they are facing but is not excisted and with more antidemocratic behavior to citizens.

by Aidan Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:05

SHAME to Athens IMC editorial team ?
by El Greco Mon, Apr 7 2003, 8:26am
There are strong accusations that the Athens IMC is CONTROLED from a leading Greek newspaper – ELEYTHEROPTYPIA. following the orders of Miller – Tegopoulos, deliberately CLOSED down the IMC Athens , with childish excuses

As for Athens IMC , there are some serious things happening. There are down for 3 days. There is no real information from the IMC team in Athens. They claim servers upgrade etc. Mr Miller the US ambassador in Athens started a campaign to the Greek media with suggestion to “calm down” and instructions for “neutral” coverage of the war ( US liberators etc..) .

There are strong accusations that the Athens IMC is CONTROLED from a leading Greek newspaper – ELEYTHEROPTYPIA. Mr. Tegopoulos, the owner of this news paper, is allied very close to the government , and a leading figure in the Greek media trying to control the left wing of the Greek society.

Mr. Miller (US ambassador in the foto) has visited the owners of the news papers also. There are accusations against the editorial team of Athens IMC, controlled from Mr. Tegopoulos ( Eleutherotypia) , that following the orders of Miller – Tegopoulos, deliberately CLOSED down the IMC Athens , with childish excuses.

It is very difficult for me to believe in coincidence, that is to have the server down for 4th day now, and no realistic explanation given.

DOWN WITH TEGOPOULOS , THE MILLER PUPET

related link: uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=62016&group=webcast

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IMC Thessaloniki server attacked
by Anna Mon, Apr 7 2003, 9:55am

Hi, this is Anna from imc-thessaloniki and i would like to report that our server was hacked the otherday so indymedia thessaloniki will be temporary offline.

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Indymedia Greece (IMC Athens-Thessaloniki) hacked
by Mike in Thessaloniki Mon, Apr 7 2003, 10:17am

Dear friends

I am writing from Thessaloniki after visiting the Black Cat "Mavri gata" collective yesterday. Since we announced our actions at the US base at Souda (Crete) on Thursday, our indymedia has been shut down ACROSS GREECE (Thessaloniki and Athina). We still dont know if it is because of a DNS virus from outside or a broader problem with the central US indymedia server or another problem-the people at the collective running the system know the details better...

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US 'Democracy'
by Busholini Mon, Apr 7 2003, 10:48am

IMC Athens became a pole of attraction of the anti-goverment left and hence had to be closed down on behulf of US "Democracy".
For a period of months participants have consistently attacked the Greek version of the Anti-Patriot Act (Trial of so-called 17November 'terrorist' group) as well as consistently supporting Iraq's resistance to the imperialist invasion.
Hence indymedia Athens went 'out of control' of the US gang that now dominates Greek political life, hence its termination for 'systems upgrade' (read monopoly control of news networks).

Indymedia teams throughout the world support protest the closure of Indymedia Athens as a prelude to the closure of all Indymedia outlets.

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shussssssss.......
by no name Mon, Apr 7 2003, 10:49am

the silence of the bastards...

They closed it down by themselves

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And Argentina IMC being evicted
by Terry Mon, Apr 7 2003, 11:00am

As reported last week, the Argentina IMC is under the threat of eviction and may
already be gone.

It would be foolish to believe that there is NOT a concerted campaign to close down
and or disrupt IMCs all over the world.

The 'dark side' know the IMCs are helping to get the word out and it is threatening their
monopoly of the media. If the IMCs continue, there is the danger that people will become
informed and thus will fuel resistance to the globalization project and the series of wars
in the planned pipeline.

by Aidan Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:06

Shame on All IMC's
by Saladin Mon, Apr 7 2003, 10:47am
Closure of IMC-Athens. Why no Protest?

SHAME to All IMCs
by ,, 7:51am Mon Apr 7 '03 (Modified on 8:13am Mon Apr 7 '03)

for their silenceon the fact that many IMCs are closed down, attacked by "special" agents. The International IMC community must react , other wise the integrity of the hole IMC project will be broken. IMC Athens is down, so do many others

What is the position of IMC , IMC UK ,

This is serius news for the front page of their editorial/post.

Other wise ... we may thing ..that IMC is allowed only in the case that is not a threat to the Imperialist powers.

kick the ass of Aristos out of IMC Athens
by pele 7:58am Mon Apr 7 '03

That person, is dangarous !!!!!!!!!!!

Either with Tegopoulos or IMC

When 'democracy' Doesn't Go Your Way
by Busholini 8:13am Mon Apr 7 '03

When consistently and over a period of months Indymedia Athens confronts all the lies of the imperialist media, the lies of the agents who have set up and framed up citizens in what is dubbbed the trial of the century (read Anti-Patriot Act in Greece-trial of 17N) it is inevtible that WE HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN Indymedia Athens.

US 'Democracy' you see is about losing elections, losing the invasion of Iraq, losing it generally.

Hence we had to take special measures and close down all Indymedia outlets that dont support OUR LINE.

Welcome to the new world order. One world. One Lie. One View.

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IMCs that have suffered such attack include
by ipsiphi Mon, Apr 7 2003, 11:04am

Nigeria
Sweden
Palestine.
The IMC is back online and everyone knows.
The most serious attack on an IMC was Quebec by the FBI when Bush showed up in town.
Sweden went off line when Putin's soldiers were gassing people in a theater last Oct 22-25
Nothing comparatively serious happened in Greece these last few days, so the loss of Greek Indymedia activity is not such a blow to freedom of speech, there is Cyprus indymedia which working in the same language could take the really important stuff.
anna from indymedia thessalonika
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server attacked
by anna 4:53pm Sun Apr 6 '03 (Modified on 3:37am Mon Apr 7 '03)
sylv4ra@yahoo.com

server attacked

hi, this is anna from imc-thessaloniki and i would like to report that our server was hacked the otherday so indymedia thessaloniki will be temporary offline.

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ti ennoeis?
by xxxxx 3:37am Mon Apr 7 '03
what exactly do you mean "hacked"? Can you explain me-us what's on with ath & thes indymedia? I am from Athens and i do not believe words like "anabathmisi". Ti ypopteyesai koinos filtati?

and since then lost of unhappy macedonians have written that Greece has the same problems as Spain.
which is doesn't but anyway.

Just because your server aint working doesnt mean
the news doesnt get out.

The most sticky thing Athens and Thessalonika have dealt with is the ongiong N17 related trials.
and the most reporting has been done on German language sites.
result:
less paranoia more acceptance that only if "all" the indymedia sites go down, is there a vacuum.

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by Aidan - IMC Ireland Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:11

Is there a need for this screaming of conspiracy?

I'm on IMC Europe mailing lists and haven't heard a reason why athens went down though I'm inclineded to go with the code theory.

You could ask the athens collective,

And hey if you're not happy with their answer, go to global and set up your own athens collective,

But really screaming here, demanding we protest when we haven't heard whats gone wrong, is just idiotic