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category antrim | miscellaneous | news report author Friday December 05, 2003 18:56author by xAnonxauthor email conz at trustkill dot net Report this post to the editors

50 employees this week, another 40 by end of month and up to 150 by end of March

First news report here on job losses at Belfast's Global Email Company:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3295287.stm

Just in time for Christmas too. It looks like the work will be out-sourced to India, although that is just "speculation" at this stage.

author by xAnonxpublication date Fri Dec 05, 2003 19:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I meant to say 100 more jobs by March

author by Anonmazonpublication date Fri Dec 05, 2003 19:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Thats fair enough, if the Indians can work longer for less money its just the right business move to make. Whats the big deal? Slave labour is cool.

author by bad bet innpublication date Sun Dec 07, 2003 23:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Multinational/buisness enterprises relocating to third world economies to take advantage of slave labour, lax health and safety regulations and a non unionised workforce, is Globalisation as advocated by Tinpot tony.

This is what Tony, Bush and G8 have envisaged for the world. Massive Unlimited and unchallenged profits for the buisness classes. Mass unemployment for unionised western workers. What Tony and Bush hope is to force wages in the west down, to similar levels in the east, to break union power, and create a servile, low paid workforce unwilling to challenge unfair and unjust working conditions and practises for fear of managment closing down factories in europe and the west to relocate to the third world.

We see this happening at Shorts recently.Where Shorts employees were told to take a wage cut, because other Shorts global employees had taken wage cuts. Whilst managment and senior executives refuse to relinquish paying themselves exorbitant wage packets and profits.

author by Finaclepublication date Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The comparison with slave labour and outsourcing to India is misleading.

The level of education is extremely high, and the cost of living extremely low. You can pay a person from india a wage of approximately €3000 per annum and that gives them an oustanding standard of living. Also, you can get staff with numerous relevant qualifications.

When the option is paying a less-educated Irish person €60,000 per annum... why bother?

[PS my figures above are based on a financial institution in Ireland which outsources some of its business to India.]

author by united capitalist cunt frontpublication date Mon Dec 08, 2003 16:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Outsourcing to india, or relocating to the third world to exploit third world slave wages, lax health and safety regulations and a non unionised workforce.
Workers in India, may be paid slightly more than their average local slave wages.

At the same time the companies managment get to pay their workforce pittance if transposed to western living standards, whilst simultaneously management get to pay themselves the same big pay packets or make more profits due to exploiting third world workers.
Here we have the repeated laughable lie from the united capitalist cunt front, that western workers are not qualified, to the standard such companies require.

When in fact most of these fly by night call centres/clerk paper pusher jobs, train up employees. These companies deliberately target unqualified staff, to pay them the lowest wages possible and train up these employees whilst they're on the job.

author by Finaclepublication date Mon Dec 08, 2003 16:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

OK - if you can give me ONE example of a major European company which has outsourced to India on a large scale that exploits the Indian staff I'll say you're right.

I'll give you a few starters;
* Bank of Ireland - nope.
* British Airways - nope.
* UPS - nope.

The people these companies employ are not the same type of people exploited by, say, Nike or Benetton or the GAP. These are educated workers getting an EXCELLENT wage in India. Buying houses, having familes, being happy. If insult them by lumping them in with the truly exploited.

author by Ga manpublication date Mon Dec 08, 2003 17:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

There are different forms of exploitation.

And this is surely one:
'We find showing new staff videos of Yes, Prime Minister is particularly effective,' said Raman Roy, Spectramind's chief executive. 'They get a two-hour seminar on the royal family. We download the British tabloids from the web to see what our customers are reading. We make new staff watch Premier League games on TV.'

Making staff watch Premier league games. Now that is torture!!!

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