Fathers to stage protest in Dublin on Good Friday

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Tuesday April 06, 2004 16:33

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FATHERS TO STAGE PROTEST RALLY IN DUBLIN ON GOOD FRIDAY

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Unmarried and Separated Fathers of Ireland shall continue with the process of lobbying against our governments refusal to recognize the basic level of Human Rights in this country, which will be highlighted at our annual Demonstration on Good Friday 9th April. The demonstration will commence from The Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform, St Stephens Green at 12.00 pm and continue to the constituency office of the minister of the said department.

Unmarried and separated Fathers of Ireland calls on the Irish government to grant equal rights to all citizens, with emphasis on the discontinuation of all forms discrimination against men in the area of the Family and Social Welfare Rights.

Minister McDowell has clearly outlined the government's position t

owards discrimination against men in his submission to the United Nations under the CEDAW program. The program aimed to eliminate all forms of discrimination in Ireland, yet the government failed again as it reserved the extension of rights to the family born out of wedlock, restricted the rights of the unmarried father and enforced discrimination against the most vulnerable of all, the children of our nation. The submission also reserved the right not to extend social welfare and social security rights towards men, a right which is presently more favourable to woman.

This year we celebrate the 10th Anniversary of the International year of the Family, and to commemorate this we call on the government to recognise the true meaning of the family unit in modern Irish society, not that framed in the constitution and based on the fading foundation of marriage, a foundation which is weakened by severity of the family law system it may have to endure. This year we call on the government under its role as Presidency of the European Union with its key theme of achieving greater social cohesion, to establish a public enquiry into the family courts system, exposing the abuse, injustice and discrimination which it administers.

This year we call on the government to abolish the in camera rule in our courts, we ask the opposition parties to resist the introduction of the purposed Courts ad Civil Liabilities Bill currently under motion.

This Bill if passed will achieve nothing less than further the hardship of innocent victims seeking justice in our family courts.

We call on the government for full implementation of international laws relating to civil justice, human rights and the rights of children.

There is uneasiness and tiredness in the area of the family in Ireland today, weighed by restrictions laid down by the state. The government has, and continues to fail in its responsibilities towards all members of the unit that forms the combined family in modern Ireland. This unit in its current legal interpretation comprises of the primary element of the child, followed by the mother the primary carer, but excludes equal rights towards the father, and eliminates automatic rights of a grandmother; the grandfather and the rights of the further extended family such as the aunt or uncle are particularly non-existence.

Today, Unmarried and separated Fathers of Ireland calls for the government to stand up to its responsibilities that are binding to all citizens of our country. We call for the government to recognise the natural rights of fathers, releasing the restrictions they have endured, bound by state legislation resulting in pain, loss and suffering to the individual, and destruction to our society as a whole. Unmarried and separated Fathers of Ireland calls for the government to stand up to its responsibilities towards the most vulnerable in our society, we ask our government to recognise the rights of the children of Ireland, and to recognise their needs and the the importance they play in the formation of the structure of our society. We call on the government recognise, that the family unit is not based on law and legislation, it is a unit based on love. We ask our government, to stop the hurt, stop the pain, stop the discrimination and focus on our children.

USFI Contacts:

Pat O' Donovan, Spokeperson,
+353 87 935 7571

Dave Whyte, Chairperson,
+353 86 261 2400

Ray Kelly, Founder,
+353 86 887 9444

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Comments (9 of 9)

No access

by Dumped

Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:58

No access, no cash. Sorted my ex not very quickly

d'oh

Wed Apr 07, 2004 13:00

despite a preview I still had a spelling mistake, of course it should be

no access, no cash. sorted my ex out very quickly

Women discriminated against in social welfare

by Geri

Wed Apr 07, 2004 19:46

"The submission also reserved the right not to extend social welfare and social security rights towards men, a right which is presently more favourable to woman. "

How so? In fact, it is other way round. If in a couple and both unemployed man claims for both; same with pensions and no guarantee he will pass a penny on.

It's less than 25 years since separated women were unable to claim even a penny of unemployment benefit or assistance, even if they had been working all their lives.

I support rights for fathers, married, separated or single. However, I am acutely aware that it is the courts' view of women as THE care givers, whether we want to be or not, that causes them to discriminate against men. The judges are so out of touch, they think that men still don't know how to change a nappy. Unfortunately, many fathers' rights people see the individual woman as the problem and, as far as I'm concerned, the minute they get into slagging off women's rights, they lose a lot of support

Fathers Protest Good Friday

by Seán Mac Suibhne - Sharred Parenting Ireland

Mon Apr 12, 2004 14:32

Sean at sharedparenting dot org

Good Work Lads!
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Seán

what happened to this tony hamilton guy

by pc

Tue Apr 13, 2004 06:52

read about his hunger strike but couldn't find follow up

seperated fathers - no rights

by Sabrina - -

Tue Oct 05, 2004 15:26

sabrinacasburn at eircom dot net

086 8468544

My brother in law has recentley seperated with only 1 child, and the way he is being treated by our so called law in ireland is disgraceful i cant beleive what he is going through and how any father in the same situation can stay sain i really dont know.

Something really does need to be done.

There are mothers out there that dont deserve a child and you have a good father taking care of a child and then the courts only listen to the mother and beleive her. this is just not right surely someone has the power to stop this????

Fathers Rights v Human Basic Rights

by Archbishop Hynes

Tue Oct 05, 2004 18:47

Yes Sabrina there exists inequality in the legal system as I agree that often undeserving mothers win custody of Bairns.

I feel you should get on to Mary Harney (Mrs Geoughan) The New Minister for Children and Health and see if she will throw any light on the injustice. If I were on the bench this would not happen. Women get away with a lot when it comes to parents rights etc.

Maybe the Judges know better or it could be that they are [cheesed off] with kids? Children can bring you both happiness and sadness. One wise old man I knew who reared a large family once said " you would be better rearing a [lock] of cattle then rearing children"!

Lawyers are the Players- Parents the pawns.!!!

by Portia

Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:14

I am observing the workings of secret family law courts in Irl and UK for 14 years.

I hope you are aware that there are also mothers in the same situation as fathers re access.

In UK the other day another mother was jailed for saying I love you to her child- because courts says she is to have no contact till children are 18.

Her x is a sex offender, but now living with social worker, who knows the ropes.

My suggestion is that fathers and mothers come together and leave the lawyers out of the scenario- because lawyers on both sides are just playing a game of chess, lining their pockets, knowing the innocent party will keep fighting for justice.

Fathers and mothers are just the chess pieces, but the lawyers are the players.

I will elaborate it all for you if you wish, but at the moment the system is winning by dividing mothers and fathers in divide and conquer .!!!!!!

I went with parents to high court London- we had no solicitor or QC, but we got the truth in front of the boys, which left them with no game to play.

If you self represent- then you are a player and not a pawn.

Wishing you all the best/Justice in 2008

smiling all the way to the bank

by Cyril

Fri Dec 28, 2007 14:00

I endorse the above comments about the use of lawyers in family cases. Leave them out as far as possible and seek mediation from voluntary groups like religious organisations, and statutory sources. I know a father who spent years and a fortune trying to gain access to his sons (the mother had run off to another country with another man, he later found out) but all he got out of the process was legal bills and a court order barring him from trying to locate the sons' whereabouts.

The family court system needs an earthquake jolt.

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