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What should be done in Iraq?

category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Tuesday April 20, 2004 12:28author by Tyler Durden Report this post to the editors

What is the solution to this big mess?

What kind of government should there be in Iraq?

Should there be an Islamic state?

Certainly Iraq nor any country in the world shouldn't be ruled by religious authorities.
We have enough experience of such a regime by priest in Ireland ( sexual abuse of children, intolerance of other religions, imprisonment of unmarried mothers and enslavement of orphans in so-called industrila schools).
Islamic fundamentalist government makes Roman Catholic theocracy look like heaven with limb amputation for thieves, stoning for adultrers, death for apostasy etc.

So we can forget about an Islamic state.

Should there be a military dictatorship?

The Iraqis lived under military rule for 30 years under Saddam one of the most barbaric regimes of the twentieth century.
They certianly don't want the U.S. military running their country now and would hardly want U.N. troops ( foreign Arab troops included) doing the same job.
The assassination of the U.N. representative in Iraq should tell you that.

Should there be secular democracy?

Certainly I think since this system works very well in other countries ( South Africa for example)

Two systems of government both state and regional would exist side by side.
A system of judiciary, parliament and executive with separation of powers.
Each region of Iraq would have local elections as well as national elections to elect regional and national parliaments with powers to appoint local judicary and national judicary who could in turn limit the power of the local and national executive. The executive could veto legislation of regional and national parliaments but could be impeached by those parliaments if its power is exceeded. Like wise the judicary could make laws to limit the authority of parliament.
This way government would be accountable.

The directly elected government would appoint the police and army to uphold the law.

There would complete separation of Church and State.

Elections for parliaments and executive positions could be held every four years.

Human rights for women, homosexuals, minority groups both ethnic and religious would be tolerated.
There would be freedom of the press and the right to own private property and many other basic human freedoms from education, to health care and fair trials.

This will take a long time to be brought about.

The last thing that the Iraqis need is the likes of the Baath party ceasing power again or Al-Qeada dictating that an Islamic regime be set up or that Al-Sadr take power and set up a regime allied with the Ayatollahs of Iran.

No fair government of Iraq will survive if these forces are allowed to remain operating in Iraq.
Similiarly no fair governemt would exist if America remained as an occupying force.

Firstly Al-Sadr, Al-Qeada and Baath party remnants will have to be defeated by an international effort and an Iraqi effort.
Unfortunately this will lead to many deaths both civilian and military but i believe ultimately will lead to a true democratic Iraq.

A democratic properous Iraq will fight the emergence of Islamic terror in the middle East and will a good ally for the Palestinians in making a peace deal with Israel.
A new democratic Iraq will spread its influence to other people in the middle East living under Islamic and military dictatorships.

They will need international help but should not be colonised by the U.S. or Russia or china or anybody else.

The future can turn brighter if we have faith in the goodness of human nature.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Good article     Daren Carroll (an american)    Tue Apr 20, 2004 16:56 
   Gibberish and nonsense     David C.    Tue Apr 20, 2004 21:45 
   .     Northern Eye    Tue Apr 20, 2004 22:26 
   Send more troops     Faisal    Tue Apr 20, 2004 23:11 
   The uprising has NOT been crushed...     David C.    Wed Apr 21, 2004 02:15 
   That may be so but...     Tyler Durden    Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:09 
   Informed debate     Homer    Wed Apr 21, 2004 14:51 
   Absolutely     Tyler durden    Wed Apr 21, 2004 15:31 
   .     Northern Eye    Wed Apr 21, 2004 15:31 
 10   logic is all fucked up here.     Tyler Durden    Wed Apr 21, 2004 15:46 
 11   lets take a look     Northern Eye    Wed Apr 21, 2004 18:22 
 12   doh     Northern Eye    Wed Apr 21, 2004 18:41 
 13   What the Islamic terrorists want.     Tyler Durden    Wed Apr 21, 2004 19:21 
 14   Clueless     David C.    Wed Apr 21, 2004 19:26 
 15   Whose clueless?     Tyler Durden    Wed Apr 21, 2004 19:46 
 16   Been away     Drbinoche    Wed Apr 21, 2004 20:03 
 17   the best course     Northern Eye    Wed Apr 21, 2004 20:12 
 18   Don't swallow propaganda     David C.    Wed Apr 21, 2004 20:53 
 19   No doubt     Drbinoche    Wed Apr 21, 2004 21:01 
 20   Don't swallow propaganda...     David C.    Wed Apr 21, 2004 22:32 
 21   Bloodshed not the only problem     David, UCD    Wed Apr 21, 2004 23:37 
 22   Just to add to that     kokomero    Thu Apr 22, 2004 09:50 
 23   q. What needs to be done in Iraq?     refresher    Thu Apr 22, 2004 16:43 


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