US Air Force allowed to train in Irish airspace

by Alan Riker Sun Jun 16, 2002 15:40

Sinn Fein, promoting peace and neutrality, I dont want to be pessimistic but come on, Sinn Fein? Mass murderers retirement club seeks neutrality for wishful state! Yes i can see the headlines.

Just another empty promise.

by BlackPope Sun Jun 16, 2002 17:10

.. but what are YOU actually proposing to do in order to protect/restore Irish neutrality?

Absolutely F-all, I'm pretty damned sure!!

So, quit your whineing and let serious people get on with the important issues at hand.

You'll probably be the first asshole licking the Yankee Jackboot that you so richly deserve to have firmly planted in your face!!

Shalom, BP

by Tomas Mac Guinness Sun Jun 16, 2002 17:55

Has any one noticed how similar Sinn Féin's programme, rhetoric, political aruguments are to the workers party in the mid seventies?

by BlackPope Sun Jun 16, 2002 22:02 BlackPope at opera dot com

Don't you guys even get it?

Your government has just engaged the overdrive in betraying the Constitution it has sworn to uphold, the Principle and Tradition of Irish Neutrality and the overwhelming will of the Irish People - and for what?

For this: A wink and a kiss blown from the arsehole of an unelected, alcoholic Resident who, apparently pumped to the lugs on crack, or otherwise crazed, is embarking on a lawless warmongering rampage throughout the world. This fucking certifiable button-down lunatic is starting to make Hitler look tame by comparison.

Don't you see that any co-operation with this kind of maniac, who mocks at the rule of International Law, will make this Nation complicit in his planned war-crimes?

And he has certainly not been shy about trumpeting them in advance, has he? It's on the record that up to 60 countries are to be destroyed if they don't toe the line of US-NeoFascism and bend over that barrel double quick time for a severe dose of the old shafting and reaming treatment our Bertie and his mind-enslaved cohorts so thoroughly seem to savour.

Yet your only response to this truely shocking news is to latch blindly onto the Teat SF represents for you, and try to settle some old scores. I don't know if you consider yourselves Irishmen, but if so, then you and your whingeing mentality are a veritable parasitic plague on this Nation.

Sinn Féin, whatever you may think of their history, other politics and current direction or leadership, are very much to be commended and supported in this vital initative - let's just hope they mean it seriously and make it a major point on the agenda.

Shalom, BP

by Harlemite Mon Jun 17, 2002 00:20

Ireland's neurtality is a joke. America appreciates that Ireland is helping in the war against terror. If you don't want the U.S. in Ireland be consistent, and agitate for Intel, Microsoft, Dell etc to be driven out of Ireland. Otherwise shut up. And if your concern is foriegn military forces, just go up the road a little to Armagh. Plenty to protest about there. Or maybe the stupid revisionist historians who have fed you bullshit are only against American imperialism and not British?

by NV Mon Jun 17, 2002 08:34

Well well, Black Pope. Have we annoyed you? You see, some people oppose all violence, and that includes the murder and destruction caused by the right wing Catholic nationalist "freedom fighters" in the IRA. Sinn Fein anti - drugs (but let's head to Columbia). Pro-neutrality (and where's our ceasefire?). If George Bush said that he was going to donate a whole lot of money to an abortion rights programme in the 3rd world, would you accept his good faith and charitable purpose? Or would you criticise his attitude to women's rights at home in the US? The same applies here. Sure, it's lovely that Sinn Fein are opposing US military aggression. Plenty of Irish people oppose it too - but we don't have our own guns, so we can do it with a straight face.

by jack Mc Slamin Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:33

the IRA is great because the kicked the shit out of england so Ireland can be free the IRA is very loyal to Ireland cause thats where they live
unlike the uvf,uff or what ever name loyalist queen butt kissing fag coward woman beater shits

by To Harlemite Mon Jun 17, 2002 17:44

The issue of Irish Neutrality is anything but a joke. It is a principle that must be defended. I do not support any involvement by this country in the "war against terror", a more apt title would be "war on the weak, deprived and defenceless. It is also a truly sickening example of hypocrisy and double standards. Not many years ago, Osama Bin Laden was a friend of Washington.

by baseball bat - ucd socialist Mon Jun 17, 2002 19:26 no fuckin way

would this be the same air force,that $inn F€in said fuck all about when they were loving the attention (and cash) bill clinton and the cia were showering them with?

alan said f-all about irish neutrality,but then again , he diddnt suggest we murder people to protect it

sinn fein , fuck off and talk about peace and neutrality ,when you stop sucking democrat cock , acting all thatcherite/stalinist/swp and raping the health and education system in the north and most af all sponsoring your own patethic little army

well see your leader when hes on the stage at an anti war march,or in a raytheon boardroom

by BlackPope Wed Jun 19, 2002 02:03

Dear Hammerlite,

'All those jobs' - is that your effort at quoting from James Connolly? Do you even know who that is?

You are the only joke here, and a pathetic one at that, if you actually believe the crap you just posted. You should be ashamed to call yourself Irish - even I am ashamed for you!!

I think you use terminology you do not understand in the hope of sounding smart - otherwise, please explain what relevance 'revisionist historians' have to your sentence.

Did I say I was not opposed to British Imperialism? Is the British Army conducting training exercises in the Republic of Ireland? Have you been drinking again?

Dear NV,

No, you don't annoy me, but your sold-my-soul-to-the-lowest-bidder attitude both disappoints and saddens me.

You claim to 'oppose all violence'? How do you personally intend to oppose the lawless violence the US is intending to visit on many countries in the near future? For you, the shortest answer will always be - ineffectively!

Then you embark on a semantic rampage of irrelevance to the issue at hand, which, in case you've already forgotten, is Irish Neutrality.

Your last sentence: I suspect you are suggesting that SF is not genuine in its opposition to US-aggression - that may or may not be the case - but is again not the issue here.

I'm not sure if your reading-skills will permit you to grasp this difficult concept, but, for your information: the US is not committing a military aggression against the RoI, but is breaching its Neutrality at the invitation of a bunch of cheap prostitutes in the Government.

Your kind of 'opposition' to such occurences sounds like it is very much limited to kicking back on the couch with your thumb in your ass to suck in another installment of 'Glenroe'! Or maybe organising an ecumenical prayer-meeting. Both options have the same effect - absolutely zero!!

Both of you have a nice day, BP

PS: Steve, please mail me.

by ex-dell worker Thu Jul 18, 2002 21:22

If working 12 hour days for 21 days straight for slightly above minimum wage and during that time doing damage to your back that has taken years and incredibly expensive medical treatment to heal sounds like a good job to you, then you're welcome to it. That was my experience at Dell.
And I live in Limerick where the entire ecomonmy of the city has been made reliant on a company who are making it clear that their current Irish facilities are all being moved to Mayalasia as soon as they train that workforce to do the more complicated tasks.
And if having this country complicit in the murder of thousand of innocent people is the price we have to pay to be treated like slaves in dead end jobs. Then I think the answer to your really ridiculous question is obvious.

by James McKenna Sat Aug 24, 2002 08:29 jimmymac61 at hotmal dot com West Cork 02835152

Disgraceful that only SF has highlighted the use of Shannon by US military mass murderers and their Israeli friends.

Shalom Mr Riker, we see now why you hate Sinn Fein......they speak out!

by mairead lineen Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:53

for f***ks sake all of you get over it, stop wasting your energy splitting hairs between yourselves and go and fucking do something about it. this is not about irish political history and our old gripes with england, this is about thousands of people dying in afghanistan and iraq and half a dozen other countries, and what we can do to stop it. could we please stay focused on the important issues and maybe work together a little?