the "alliance of civilisations" launched.

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Friday July 15, 2005 13:21

by .:. iosaf ·.· ipsiphi

launched today by the UN co-sponsered by Spain & Turkey.

Last 21 of September 2004, Zapatero addressed most of the United Nations representatives (Israel was absent) on the proposals from the peninsula for
"An Alliance of Civilisations"
at U.N. level and reaching into all inter-cultural and trans-national initiatives as a key mechanism in the combat against emergent forms of imitative terrorism which use extremist islamic fundamentalist beliefs to recruit, fund, plan and execute attacks on civilians.

At its most basic, the proposals which today got aproval of Kofi Annan and the United Nations mean asking and answering these questions:-

Who are you?

Where do you live?

What do you believe?

Do you have any special eating requirements?

Do you need infrastructure development aid?

Do you need assistance with good governance?

Do you need someone to explain where you stand on the girl on girl thing?

How do you feel about your holy books being subject to abuse?

Any thoughts on the Guantanamo thing?

Any thoughts on the illegal invasion of Iraq by the USA and UK? = speak up. we're listening, a lot of us agree with you.

Any thoughts on the continued injsutice against the Palestinian people?

Was your independence deal a bit sour?

Why is that partition of your lands on religious grounds fifty years later sees base issues unchanged, and a climate of extremism and desperation?

What do your young people do?
*What would they like?
*Do they need jobs?
*Do they need to get married and date more?

What's your version of apocylapse?
*How have you reacted at mass psychological level to the clash of civilisation publicity by Hollywood & Washington?

Don't you agree bush is a plonker?
= relax he'll go within 4 years. He's not the first bad US president we've had.

Have you realised that at your most rightwing you have natural allies in the west, you know the "girl on girl" and "eggy" thing?

= have a chat with them, go okupy their churches.

Have you realised that at your most leftwing you have natural allies in the west?

= have a chat with them, they'll help you okupy a church.

Of course these complex proposals go on and on...

As a member state of the EU leading the state responses to migration and security issues and having suffered the _worst terrorist attack_, Spain has seen her migrant population increase in 5 years from less than 4% of total population to almost 14%. Unique amongst her EU partners, Spain has offered amnesty to migrants in an attempt to bring them into the normal protections, rights and responsibilities of other citizens and employees. Spain has favoured the "night class in our constitution approach" to islamic communities which have vered to interpretations of religion which _do not_ match the civil, gender and social rights of european citizenry, based on the input to wider society by that community itself. No mosque needs european spies, every mosque in Europe ought count europeans _in every sense_ amongst its worshippers. Who feel themselves integrated into the section of Europeans who support religious based political doctrines, ethics and campaigns, and realise that europe operates a secular system of collective governance.

The migration burden of Spain has not been matched by other states with a traditional, and cultural obligation to assist citizens of certain states in their rights to the pursuit of liberty, prosperity and a new life.

The percentage of migrants from the sub continent of India & Pakistan & Bangladesh seeking spanish citizenship has jumped, as their traditional ties with Britian are subject to yet more and more controls. Britian's partner Ireland likewise has been slow to accept a proper "quota" of migrants from the sub-continent which was partitioned on religious grounds by the British in their immediate post-war response to empire downscaling.

No-one can underestimate the importance of the abuse allegations in Guantanamo and the desecration of the Holy Koran in kindling Islamic fundamentalism, hurt, and anger.

Since independence the populations of both India and Pakistan have grown at an astonishing rate, and the two states have gone to war many times, diverting exceptional amounts of their fiscal revenue to an arms race which has most recently become nuclear. There is little sign that the British establishment have taken their post-imperialist responsibilities seriously in mid Asia. The influx of migrants from mid Asia in the post war period were poorly integrated, and are overwhelmingly found in marginalised urban areas.

The UN initiative is co-sponsered by Spain and Turkey.
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There will be more on this.
Its nothing new.

The ideas of how to promote these *connections* rather than *differences* ought be perfectly apparant to us in the civil rights, human rights and wider justice, liberty, democracy and anti-globalisation movements.
On the level of social movements many of the themes have been explored by the first social forum for the mediterranean (the common area of "european" and "islamic" civlisation) held in Barcelona june 16-19th 2005.
On the level of European Institutions these themes will be explored at the Euro-Mediterranean conference also in barcelona in November, which will see the UK EU presidency *listen* to the voices of Islamic societies of many types from Morroco to Lebanon, Egypt to Turkey.

The British have to learn to *listen*, and except that many of their "solutions" in the past failed and sowed the seeds of the current global crises.

links:-
http://actualidad.terra.es/nacional/articulo/onu_alianza_civilizaciones_403001.htm
http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=293867&tabla=notas
http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/31618/3546130.html
http://www.lavanguardia.es/web/20050715/51189108221.html

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I would like to go record as welcoming his excellency Vladamir Putin president of Russia to Spain.

by iosaf - "diplomatically sarcastic"

Wed Feb 08, 2006 14:21

He may be a KGB man, and autocratic, and responsible for awful things, but he's no worse than anyone else on his scene. & he has dog, and like many of us had a kathurlick education.

Mr Putin has yesterday given extensive interviews to the spanish press in which he talked about the dirty un-hygience brits and their spies, butter, the colour green, nuclear power, and how he really believes that in time of religious tension, commercial media ought exercise restraint.

He's also decided both ZP and Aznar are great leaders.

He isn't talking about the "crack-down" on MI6 front human rights organisations, or the rash of rasta wearing ozzy pacifists on the streets of Moscow. But for the moment, spaniards and catalans are welcome in Russia this summer for the g8 "energy conference.

& so we're going.

if you'd like to see Russia and don't have dredds or an australian or british passport, you can find details of our Russia Gigs here:-

"Reclaim the debate! Resist the G8! In July 2006, the G8 will hold its annual Summit in St.Petersburg, Russia. Vladimir Putin says he's placing "energy security" at the top of the G8 agenda during Russia's presidency. The G8 countries consume 45% of world oil and produce 47% of global CO2 emissions. Their "energy security" is our energy grave!
Yes Indeed, we're going to Russia - details @
http://reclaimthecommons.net/
or
http://www.infoshop.org/news/article.php?story=20060103...57493

Mr Putin of course doesn't come to Europe much. He likes to promote a "Euro 3" alliance of France, Germany and Spain, and the last time he said anything really specific on what he wants from us all, 60 years after the end of WW2 was when he met the supreme wookie in Bratislava. Of course Bush wasn't being a wookie that week he was on "the angel of the lord buzz".
http://indymedia.ie/article/68696#comment101299

For your files here's a photo of Mr Putin with his dog, and Mr Blair n and if you look carefully in the background you'll see fake trees with Brit spies in them.

And as a bonus extra, a picture of mr Putin as kid, when he was still very devout and kathurlick.

Mr Putin's doggy and Mr Blair's fake trees before we made poverty historic at G8 2005

vlad putin as a kiddy when still a kathurlick and his great career as KGB numero uno were undreamt of.

he's ingratiated me

by io

Wed Feb 08, 2006 14:28

because he has refused to meet Spanish business interests.
aint that sweet? And he has said that Europe (led by the unrepentant nazis austria) must not cut funding to Palestine.

Throwing rocks and Spot the dog.

by Seán Ryan

Wed Feb 08, 2006 20:10

If you look closely at the picture, I think you'll see one of them rocks that MI6 like to toss around. The kind with transmitters in them.

For the stupid people out there (like me) the creature to the right of Putin, in the background is his dog, not the creature to the left of him, as I'd first thought. The creature to the left of Putin is most assuredly Bush's dog.

If I can develop the readies, I'll see ya in Russia this Summer.

Sláinte,
Seán

bye bye Mr Putin! "come again soon"

by ipsi

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:29

Vlad one has gone, and in his wake we have several little titbits of interest to both the leftie in general and the bolshie in particular.

in their joint statement on the "danish cartoon war" Vlad one and ZP had this to say :-

"this is a question of sensibility and respect".

I'm sure that will find resonance. for me coz I use the word "sensibility" http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74056
and of course for the bolsheviks coz they use "respect".

And of course Putin is inviting Hamas to Moscow and this morning Jordan expressed its support whilst the israeli state voiced its concern. "nothing wrong with that".

Now before, not many people knew about "the alliance of civilisation" thing & how its supposed to work. I'd ask you to read the article and ask yourself the questions "where you live" "what you believe" "any eating requirements" they may seem trite but they're important. Turkey is the co-sponsor of the project, and thought most EU states haven't come on side, we do have support in the mediterranean region where after all many of the problems of "neighbourly behaviour" come in. But the last days with Vlad one have not been without topics for concern. the King reminded us all that we really need (like really need) a friendly russia sending us gas. Not us in ireland or spain (we get cheapo gas elsewhere) but the majority of EU citizens in central and eastern europe. And the "down-side" Spain and ZP "and all who sail with her" have supported a return of the "cold war balance" in the Levant and near Asia, but with a human rights price - Chechnya.

Now I believe this "low key" very microleft influenced project will in teh fullness of time offer us more than Bono of U2 and the Queen Noor of Jordan doing CNN chatshows together. Bono without the sunglasses and Noor without the veil. But that's coz I live in the real world. So I'm still supporting the "alliance of civilisation" and guess what?

Iran is not in it.

So FUCK IRAN.

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the Holocaust was and is a European issue.

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