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Gleneagles 2005: A Rural Riot

category international | summit mobilisations | news report author Saturday October 01, 2005 00:04author by Revolt Video - Revolt Videoauthor email revoltvideo at hushmail dot com Report this post to the editors

25 minute video about the day of blockades during the recent summit in Scotland. (2nd edit)

The film covers the day of blockades in an agit prop, music video style. It tries to explain the frustration of the previous 2 days of being " penned in " by the police at protests and the contrast between the direct action blockades and what was going on at Live 8.

Tech stuff: This video was encoded with the Xvid open source codec.

Install Xvid on Pc http://www.koepi.org/XviD-1.0.3-20122004.exe

How to get Xvid running on Mac http://www.unitethecows.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-876.html


If you have footage that you think will go well with this film please contact us at the above email, please do the same if you have any suggestions or comments.

Related Link: http://video.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/156.shtml
author by Revolt Videopublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 00:19author email revoltvideo at hushmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Koepi's site seems to be down at the momment. You can get the codec from here:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/codecs_and_filters/xvid.cfm

Also this would be a good time to mention that I have copies of the G8 2005 Newsreel that Imc Uk made. I am also distributing the rasied voices interviews.

http://www.raisedvoices.net
http://newsreal.indymedia.de/english.html

If anyone wants these on dvd or mini dv and are will to cover the cost of postage and blanks then drop a line to: revoltvideo@hushmail.com

Related Link: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/codecs_and_filters/xvid.cfm
author by aarrrggghhpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 00:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

download of this film is too long, even on broadband. any possibility of speeding it up or repackaging the download? say in a self opening zip format?

author by wpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 02:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

this film is fucking great, well done lads.

author by broadbanderpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 09:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Its big - but its a 25 minute film, just be patient!

author by Revolt Videopublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:23author email revoltvideo at hushmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

For those interested here is bit about video encoding.

The film has gone from mini dv which itself is a compressed format that weighs in at 215mb a minute to mpeg 2 which is around 60mb a minute and finally with Xvid encoding we got the file size down to about 11mb per minute while still maintaining good picture quality.

Most fims that are available on the net come in about 700mb for 90min (8mb per minute) and just fit on a single blank cd. Some people will split the film across 2 cds in order to get higher quality.

Anything significantly lower than 8mb per minute and the quality starts to suffer.

The version that is on video.indymedia.org was for entering into a festival so it had to be high quality.

Indymedia uk allows files up to 20mb to be uploaded, I might try to put up a smaller version there but it might be completely unwatchable due to the heavy compression.

Does anyone know of other places that you can upload your files for free?


Obviously we want as many people as possible to see the film but it is just not possible nor desireable to degrade a film to the level neccessary to facilitate 56k users. However we can post out dvd copies if those users can't get it off the net.

If you have broadband just set it downloading before you go to bed and it should be done in the morning....that's the beauty of an always on connection!

Make sure to use a download manager like getright though so if the connection stops you can just resume from where you left off.

We have been working on this film for the last 2 months....

I think it will be worth the download (^_^)

author by eeekkkkkkpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

archive.org and ourmedia.org are two places that will let you upload video files for free and they pay hosting costs. I think also that even google now lets you upload video for free.

Might Help.

Is this an Irish or UK made video BTW?

author by Revolt Videopublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 13:05author email revoltvideo at hushmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'll check them out. I think video.indymedia.org eventually pushes stuff to archive.org anyway. The google option sounds interesting but seemingly it takes a long time for them to verify your video and there are a few dogey clauses in the terms of service.

Rural Riot is an indymedia Ireland production but it makes use of footage that people from other countries have shot as well as our own stuff.

author by eeekkkkpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 13:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Can a few stills from the film get up here? It is definitely worth featuring such a big piece of work in some way.

Try here too. It is interesting.

http://www.ngvision.org/index.en.html

As It DTV and Broadcast Machine. Info here:
http://participatoryculture.org/

author by Lishapublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 13:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors

eeekkkkkk - "I think also that even google now lets you upload video for free".

Revolt Video - "The google option sounds interesting but seemingly it takes a long time for them to verify your video and there are a few dogey clauses in the terms of service".

Are you aware of the following:

1) Keyhole, the satellite imaging company that Google acquired in October 2004, was funded by the CIA.

2) Matt Cutts, a software engineer at Google since January 2000, used to work for the National Security Agency.

3) "We are moving to a Google that knows more about you." — Google CEO Eric Schmidt, February 9, 2005

4) Since 2000, Google has recorded your search terms, the date-time of each search, the globally-unique ID in your cookie (it expires in 2038), and your IP address. This information is available to governments on request.

For more information
http://www.google-watch.org/

author by mikepublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 13:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

this film is amazing! well done

author by Archivepublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 13:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://www.archive.org

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author by ali kpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 17:38author email alikrby at yahoo dot ieauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

wow! impressive video, really good footage! its the first ive seen from the protests at stirling and its great to get an alternative view of what the scottish papers and tv were reporting at the time! i was on one of the buses that nearly didnt make it to the gleneagles protest but we got there eventually all the more frustrated and ready to kick off! seeing it again is awesome as it filled me with the all familiar adrenaline rush you get when you stop obeying and start fighting back, nice one!

author by eeekkkkpublication date Sat Oct 01, 2005 22:11author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Become a Vlogger (he he he) and go here:

http://www.blip.tv/

author by SnowDownloadpublication date Sun Oct 02, 2005 18:11author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Glad I didn't go. John Zerzan - what a fucking moron. Primitivist extremist and posterboy for terrorists like the American Unabomber.

Video doesn't show much property destruction, just euro street fighters attacking police lines. I didn't see anyone making poverty history, unless you can count a bunch of middle class folks (bb) attacking working class folks (police) with lethal weapons as such (does making a poor person history count as a small victory? Sending him to hospital at least?).

author by R. Isiblepublication date Sun Oct 02, 2005 23:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well worth the download time. Weird argument above from someone that knows that the masked people are middle class. What is middle-class these days anyway? Someone that earns more money beating up anarchists than the anarchists earn? Is being working-class (whatever the fuck that is) a free pass through the gates of heaven after you've spent your life doing a dirty job?

author by SlowDownloadpublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

John Zerzan is a posterboy for the (extreme right-wing) primitivist survivalists in the United States.

What makes me believe that they're middle class:

A. Almost everyone I know who travels from afar to these (media) events is university educated and middle class. That they may be earning less now than a police officer is irrelevant.

B. Every one of the masked protesters who could be heard speaking in the video was speaking with a middle class British accent.

I'm not saying for a moment that I think it's okay to be a police officer. Theo of the Seize the Day (the guy waving the Volvic bottle while speaking to the police line) basically said how I feel about police and protests.

author by himselfpublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 14:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

B. Every one of the masked protesters who could be heard speaking in the video was speaking with a middle class British accent.


your obviously an idiot ..............did you even watch it............i presume your an expert on british regional dialects.....your opinion is worthless

author by publication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 17:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Two groups both wearing masks. Glad to find out on the ever informative comments section of indymedia that class is now defined in terms of appearance (even if you can't see your face) and accent. FFS. With a class analysis like this ...

author by R.Isiblepublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 18:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Let alone extreme right-wing. To characterize him that way puts the rest of your comment into perspective.

author by Wpublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 20:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

if you listen really closey around the time the pallets are being stacked up - you can hear what is unmistakably a proper for real dublin working class accent.

My god!

author by R. Isiblepublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 20:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

But to an American that would not be distinguishable from a British or Scottish accent. "Slowdownload" is pretty obviously completely ignorant of anything that is being discussed here and should probably be treated as a troll and ignored. Again, a great video and well worth a look: not least because of the interesting disparity between the "MPH" people on the bus that believe that their journey to the stadium is being interrupted as part of a police plot. They deny the existence of the direct action "mythical anarchists" and prefer to believe that the state has decided that their presence at a contained march is so dangerous that the police will stop at nothing in case the subsersive spectacle of them buying t-shirts will topple global capitalism.

author by Anti-capitalist - NIPSA memberpublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 20:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The attempts to block the motorway were completely useless. Did these people actually think that blocking a road was going to stop the G8 from meeting? Get real. The only way of fighting back against the policies of the G8 and undermining their power is to organise workers to take action, mass demonstrations and especially industrial action, which can bring the system to it's knees. Unfortunately, the leaderships of almost every union in Ireland, North & South, which are also bureaucratised by careerists, are an obstacle to this process. Patient work of agitation, explanation and organisation has to be put in on the workshop floor to begin to transform the unions in to fighting organisations, not pathetic attempts to stop the G8 by blocking a road! Jaysus, I ask ye.

author by himselfpublication date Mon Oct 03, 2005 22:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

first, the road was blocked!!!
it was not an attempt and thats what i think the film is about.
second, diversity of tactic's has to be respected its not possible for all of us to be "on the workshop floor" some people who are anti-capitalist dont work in factories and are not members of unions! I did'nt see anyone from NIPSA there,
really your post is pathetic not people who were there trying to do something. rahh rahh workers rahh rahh.....it aint all about unions mate.
why not show it to some of your 43,000 members...or do you have tv's in the factory....bahhh

author by SlowDownloadpublication date Tue Oct 04, 2005 09:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I never said that Zerzan was right wing. Read what I wrote more carefully. If you've still got a problem with it, let me know.

Relax folks - don't call people trolls and "idiots" and say that their opinions are "worthless" just because they are different from yours.

The video presents a very uncritical pro-BB view of the G8 protests (complete with Zerzan's excuses for property damage). If someone wanted to show off an uncritical pro-Bono/Geldof charity video on Indymedia we'd all be jumping at the bit to take it to pieces.

In what way is blocking your fellow travellers (the nonviolent protesters and charities on the coaches) from using the motorway a good thing to do?

In what way can you say that the BB were "respecting diversity of tactics", when they were clearly *blocking* others from employing their chosen tactics (coach ride up to stadium, then nonviolent protest, vigil, demo, teach-in, etc.)?

Finally, if it is the case that all the moderate tactics should actually be disrupted -- that they're not needed, or worse, that they provide false hope and therefore should be exposed and expelled from the activist activity book -- then would those employing BB tactics once every 6 months or so when there's a photo op PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE pick up the slack and start doing BB hardcore street fighter actions (banks, McDonalds, take your pick) on ordinary week days, weekends and bank holidays for a change! Thank you!

author by Anti-capitalistpublication date Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'first, the road was blocked!!!'
- only for a very short time. The only impact this had was to hold up those of us who were trying to get to the protest, including a bus-full of NIPSA members. I witnessed these clowns, who knew all the traffic on the road was destined for Gleneagles to protest against the G8, try to block the road with my own eyes. It was truly bizarre - so called 'anti-G8' protestors trying to stop those travelling to join the protests.


'it was not an attempt and thats what i think the film is about.'
- What impact did it have on stopping the G8?

'second, diversity of tactic's has to be respected its not possible for all of us to be "on the workshop floor" some people who are anti-capitalist dont work in factories and are not members of unions!'
- By workshop floor, I do not mean factories exclusively. In all workplaces, material which explains the role of the G8 needs to be distributed and discussed with people. Unfortunately, the trade union leaders actions have led to low recruitment to the unions, and as you quite correctly point out, many workers are not members of unions. But that still does not change the fact that capitalism completely relies on the labour of the working class. Even if you are not a worker, the anti-capitalist movement should orientate towards the working class.

As for diversity of tactics being respected - blocking the roads which the majority of protestors were travelling on, was not only far from 'respectful' but impacted negatively on most protestors ability to reach the protest.

'I did'nt see anyone from NIPSA there,
really your post is pathetic not people who were there trying to do something. rahh rahh workers rahh rahh.....it aint all about unions mate.'
- Again, you paint a picture that you represent the majority of people who protested against the G8 - not true. The majority of people who 'were trying to do something' were opposed to the tactics of blocking protestors.

'why not show it to some of your 43,000 members...or do you have tv's in the factory....bahhh'
- Yes, thank you for that suggestion. The film will confirm the correctness of the method of class struggle above the elitist individual actions of small groups, to fellow members of mine.

author by Anti-Capitalistpublication date Tue Oct 04, 2005 14:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The only impact this had was to hold up those of us who were trying to get to the protest, including a bus-full of NIPSA members. I witnessed these clowns, who knew all the traffic on the road was destined for Gleneagles to protest against the G8, try to block the road with my own eyes. It was truly bizarre - so called 'anti-G8' protestors trying to stop those travelling to join the protests."

No it didn't Personal insult removed. Please don't do this, it wastes our time editing them out. Thanks. - IMC Ed. And I'm sorry, but you were in the minority, a few hundred protestors on buses as opposed to the thousands involved in DA spread out over the scottish countryside blocking multiple roads not just the one with the crack team of NIPSA members who were somehow going to shut down the g8 with chants, placards and a police sanctioned protest march miles from gleneagles. Another personal insult removed. Whole posts will be hidden if they contain too many insults to edit out. Thanks. IMC Ed!


"What impact did it have on stopping the G8?"

Check here to see the list of delegations stopped from even getting there by the blockades. It happened. But just because the media was covering londons olympic bid, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

http://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/2109/index.php

http://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/2108/index.php


"As for diversity of tactics being respected - blocking the roads which the majority of protestors were travelling on, was not only far from 'respectful' but impacted negatively on most protestors ability to reach the protest."

See first reply, and using "the majority" in trms of public opinion (dear lord) in a political debate, the biggest falacy of all. And the fact that the majority of people were at the MPH march and believe the G8 are a force for good in the world, doesn't make it so. MPH should be looked back on as one of the greatest acts of hegemony and co-optation performed by the/a state in the last five if not fifteen years. What a complete and utter joke.


"The majority of people who 'were trying to do something' were opposed to the tactics of blocking protestors."

Get over this majority thing and start putting forward some actual arguments.

"Yes, thank you for that suggestion. The film will confirm the correctness of the method of class struggle above the elitist individual actions of small groups, to fellow members of mine."


Correctness? Insult removed The discussion of the role of trade unionism (as opposed to syndicalism) in capitalism is for another time.

author by Anti-capitalist - member of NIPSApublication date Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'No it didn't Personal insult removed. Please don't do this, it wastes our time editing them out. Thanks. - IMC Ed. And I'm sorry, but you were in the minority, a few hundred protestors on buses as opposed to the thousands involved in DA spread out over the scottish countryside blocking multiple roads not just the one with the crack team of NIPSA members who were somehow going to shut down the g8 with chants, placards and a police sanctioned protest march miles from gleneagles. Another personal insult removed. Whole posts will be hidden if they contain too many insults to edit out. Thanks. IMC Ed!'

- I saw what the IMC Ed deleted and it does not say much about your ability to have a reasoned constructive debate. Not that I'm bothered. To say that the clowns and hooded nature lovers who spent a morning walking in the coutryside of Stirling and attempted to block a road for more than 10 minutes OUTNUMBERED those who marched against the G8 at Gleneagles is laughable. How many people spent their time walking through fields? Was it even 1,000? Let's be generous and say there was 2,000. Yet that is still far less than 50% of those who refused to join with you in the fields and chose instead to join the demo at Gleneagles.

- Crack team of NIPSA members? What have you against low-paid workers who have travelled to Scotland to protest against the G8? There were thousands of cars, coaches, mini-buses etc. on the road to Stirling, who were obstructed to geting to the protest by those 'protestors' attempting to block the road. Not to mention the thousands of others were held up in Edinburgh by the state. The march to Gleneagles was never going to stop the G8 from meeting. The only way the G8 could have been stopped was by the organised working class, through it's organisations of the trade unions, taking industrial action - a general strike.

'Check here to see the list of delegations stopped from even getting there by the blockades. It happened. But just because the media was covering londons olympic bid, doesn't mean it didn't happen.'

- No delegates were stopped from attending the summit. Do you think the capitalist class, who have ruled now for hundreds of years, are stupid enough to send delegates on road? Do you not think their security people would not have seen your plans which were clear from various websites? Tell me how do you plan to stop delegates from flying by helicopter to future summits?

"As for diversity of tactics being respected - blocking the roads which the majority of protestors were travelling on, was not only far from 'respectful' but impacted negatively on most protestors ability to reach the protest."

See first reply, and using "the majority" in trms of public opinion (dear lord) in a political debate, the biggest falacy of all. And the fact that the majority of people were at the MPH march and believe the G8 are a force for good in the world, doesn't make it so. MPH should be looked back on as one of the greatest acts of hegemony and co-optation performed by the/a state in the last five if not fifteen years. What a complete and utter joke.

- Hold on a minute, you brought up the need of 'respect for diversity in tactics'. Blocking people from protesting against the G8, in my books, is not having 'respect for diversity of tactics'. I used majority to describe the numbers of people who took part in the demo and refused to support the field-walking strategy. Nowhere did I mention ' majority in terms of public opinion'. 'The biggest falacy of all' in my opinion is constructing false statements and crediting to your opponent in a debate.

- The MPH was organised by the ruling class to try and cut across a genuinely anti-capitalist demo. Gordon Brown, a leading advocate of neo-liberalism, actually took part in the march. MPH was in no way an anti-capitalist formation. It was controlled by rich, pro-capitalist individuals like Geldof and Bono, as well as corrupt NGO's, charities and the state. However, while most people who took part on the MPH march may have had illusions in the G8 to 'make poverty history', it in no way means that those people today feel the same way. Most people who were on the march, including the 'anarchist 'black bloc', were there out of a genuine desire to rid the world of poverty. The outcome of the G8 has shattered whatever illusions existed. Those who marched yesterday with illusions will tomorrow march with a more combative, determined and militant determination.

'Get over this majority thing and start putting forward some actual arguments.'

- My argument is that the amateur lollipop girls and boys who thought they were disrupting the G8 were only disrupting those wishing to demonstrate against the G8. Such tactics are counter-productive.

author by Anti-capitalistpublication date Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is a real dialogue of the deaf between those who fancy themselves as anti-capitalist. A useful example of why no one outside the anti-capitalist 'movement' need take it seriously. Let the factions, trot, anarchist and otherwise fight for 'control' while the boss looks on and laughs. Idiots!

author by himselfpublication date Wed Oct 05, 2005 20:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i'm really not impressed by this NIPSA guy coming on here banging on about his vision of how things should be its not constructive and gives me the impression that he is a course loud headbanger who likes to give out about things.........you have to much free time on your hands...

outcome: NIPSA IS NOW IN MY BOOKS BEST AVOIDED

author by observer - nonepublication date Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Seems to me the NIPSA person has explained his point of view in a reasonable manner. I've seen much worse on this site.

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