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category international | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Wednesday January 18, 2006 05:10author by Xavier Report this post to the editors

Organised religion:political parties in disguise.

Organised religion and political parties are one and the same thing, bodies formed for the exercise of social control through the centralisation of power and the use of hierarchical structures

Stalinist Russia was a dictatorship, where the state exercised social control through the "communist party" as was the case throughout the history of soviet Russia. The fact that organised religion was effectively banned during the soviet period was to avoid any competition for the social control of the people. In case you are confused by my comments, let me be clear, I do not support the ideology of soviet Russia. Imperialist communism(a contradiction in terms, I know) and imperialist capitalism are equally abhorrent to me. So also is the concept of imperialist organised religion. Organised religion (christianity) was a central plank in the European oppression of Africa, India and the Americas.

To me, oppressive social control and centralised power structures are the same wheter political or religious. To look to the middle east we can see the effects of Totalitarian Islam in Iran for example, where dissent on religious or political grounds is not tolerated.The same is true in other regions where Sharia law is applied.

In European society the same laws on discrimination that apply to the individual citizen do not apply to the organised religions. Religions are allowed to discriminate on the basis of gender and sexual orientation for example. Does this not supply them with the opportunity for greater social control?Organised religion eligion would therefore appear to be state sponsored discrimination.

It really does not matter whether the sacred text of such entities was written by Marx or St.Paul. Adherence to dogmatic ideas with no opportunity for dissent from, debate about or progress forward from them has repeatedly failed the people as is evidenced not only by soviet Russia but also by the dictatorship of Roman Catholicism before it. It allows for no evolutionary thought, hence the guardians of power of such entities come to be known as the thought police( wheter it is the K.G.B or the Congregation for the doctrine of the faith it amounts to the same thing)


The three main religious sects of Europe, Roman Catholicism, Anglican Communion and Islam are all patriarchial and hierarchical. All have or are imposing repressive social control through their abuse of power. This leaves those Anarchists with Christian beliefs in a difficult position. Facing up to the dichotomy between anarchism and their membership of an “organised religion”.However on examination of the actual texts of christianity and especially the gospels and acts, where the direct teaching of Christ can be read, it is plain to see that he criticised and condemned the organised religion he was part of. I believe that adherence to these teachings is perfectly compatibile with my anarchist beliefs. In fact I cannot see how I could be a christian without being anarchist.Therefore I must reject membership of the established churches and develop other forms of communal practce. The centralised church, like the state, is the enemy of the anarchist. Being a Roman Catholic is as incompatible with anarchy as is membership in Fianna Fail.
I believe it is useless to look to the failed structures of the past. We need to look forward, to build true community based on the principles of equality, liberty and fraternity and the assent of the people and move forward from dependence on ideologies that not only control our lives but tell us what we may think. This means that as a person to whom religion is important within the anarchist movement I must examine how religious structures can be transformed to horizontal rather than vertical and hierarchical.

What is the solution from a christian point of view. We must return to a radical view of christianityif we are to free ouselves from the relgious bosses yoke, we must return to the roots. Christ himself formed a group of thirteen members, it is a good example. As a group it is big enough to have diversity of thought without losing the personal connection that often occurs with larger groups. If anarchist christians were to organise into such groups, let us call them churches,they could then form a loose association of autonomous churches for organisational purposes.Therefore they could remain true to the ideals of both anarchism and christianity.

Therefore it would appear that there is a need to begin dialogue with other christian anarchists to expand on this proposition. That is the purpose of this post.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   links     Xavier    Wed Jan 18, 2006 05:40 
   Good post,well said.     Paddy Savage    Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:38 
   hi xavi.     :-)    Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:41 
   Christian anarchy, the full circle?     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:22 
   Christ the Conservative     James    Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:52 
   Christianity     Atheist    Wed Jan 18, 2006 13:15 
   The Gospel of Anarchy     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 14:57 
   Yes James, but ........     Mike    Wed Jan 18, 2006 15:01 
   Mythical     Atheist    Wed Jan 18, 2006 15:16 
 10   Blasphemy     Devout    Wed Jan 18, 2006 15:29 
 11   I don't believe I'm arguing on the religious side     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 15:49 
 12   er..... actually     iosaf    Wed Jan 18, 2006 16:02 
 13   off the point     Xavier    Wed Jan 18, 2006 16:02 
 14   Watch out for my fragile ego if you please     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 16:25 
 15   Why bother with Jesus?     James    Wed Jan 18, 2006 16:58 
 16   freedom and the nature of man.     Xavier    Wed Jan 18, 2006 18:02 
 17   voluntary subjection to 'divine' authority is not an anarchist position     Ray Hanrahan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 18:33 
 18   Not meaning to offend...     James    Wed Jan 18, 2006 18:40 
 19   Who "Jesus" Really Was     Guy    Wed Jan 18, 2006 19:21 
 20   "To say otherwise is blasphemy"     Cormac    Wed Jan 18, 2006 19:29 
 21   Anarcho-Flying Spaghetti Monsterist myself (A-FSM)     shaner    Wed Jan 18, 2006 20:42 
 22   Did Bakunin think or did thoughts come to him?     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 20:48 
 23   Lordy Lordy "shit in a big and punch it"     iosaf    Wed Jan 18, 2006 21:03 
 24   Tis all startin' to sound like double Dutch     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 21:30 
 25   Mark Newman     Mark Newman    Wed Jan 18, 2006 21:35 
 26   i think it was Virgil who reflecting on Homer said (in our english) have a think B4 U write thought     iosaf    Wed Jan 18, 2006 22:12 
 27   Re: Sean     James    Wed Jan 18, 2006 22:25 
 28   the Flying Spaghetti Monster will dash all you heretics with his noodly appendage!     shaner    Wed Jan 18, 2006 22:33 
 29   Sheeeeeesh     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 23:07 
 30   One for the road     James    Wed Jan 18, 2006 23:25 
 31   Fair enough James     Seán Ryan    Wed Jan 18, 2006 23:35 
 32   Anarchism serves the Anarchist, the Christian Anarchist serves Jesus.     Niall Harnett    Thu Jan 19, 2006 00:17 
 33   thanks     Xavier    Thu Jan 19, 2006 01:26 
 34   Hmmm     jack white    Thu Jan 19, 2006 01:28 
 35   .     random character    Thu Jan 19, 2006 02:41 
 36   thoughts     Xavier    Thu Jan 19, 2006 02:54 
 37   Jesus if existed he was a fuckin idiot     Flynn    Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:14 
 38   For what it's worth....     Ciaron    Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:17 
 39   3 for the price of 1     James    Thu Jan 19, 2006 13:18 
 40   in answer to a query anda few more "fine tunings"     know all.    Thu Jan 19, 2006 14:03 
 41   rotfl     Seán Ryan    Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:06 
 42   ongoing non violent revolution     dunk    Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:35 
 43   Christ's teachings.     Devout    Thu Jan 19, 2006 16:03 
 44   you never stop do you?     schmuck    Thu Jan 19, 2006 20:54 
 45   crackpot christians     Seamus    Thu Jan 19, 2006 21:15 
 46   Yeah     Niall    Fri Jan 20, 2006 00:09 
 47   Schmuck, you are well named     Seán Ryan    Fri Jan 20, 2006 00:35 
 48   Thanks Dunk     Xavier    Fri Jan 20, 2006 04:03 
 49   holistic links "doth not fear oh Wanderer, take thy faltering steps"     potential convert    Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:08 
 50   Just to expand on my previous posting     Ray Hanrahan    Fri Jan 20, 2006 19:18 
 51   Silly to suggest that a Christian Anarchist Current Doesn't Exist     Ciaron    Sat Jan 21, 2006 17:05 
 52   Who is arguing that?     James    Sat Jan 21, 2006 19:00 
 53   The guy I lodged with in London complete with thermos at Hyde Park     Ciaron    Sat Jan 21, 2006 19:10 
 54   Today I've been trying to find a second hand part to fix a community computer.     iosaf    Sat Jan 21, 2006 19:52 
 55   emergant trend.     Xavier    Sat Jan 21, 2006 22:25 
 56   God and The State         Mon Jan 23, 2006 16:33 
 57   good audio file with U Utah philips + the spiritual paradigm shift we are going through today     dunk    Mon Jan 23, 2006 16:53 
 58   living is the miracle, being aware of it is tricky, doing stuff is good     dunk    Mon Jan 23, 2006 17:01 
 59   yeah.     Observer2    Mon Jan 23, 2006 17:07 
 60   I'm tired of 5th level veganism     redjade    Mon Jan 23, 2006 17:08 
 61   take a look at a shamrock..... is there an "iota" in Anarchy? eh????     iosaf    Mon Jan 23, 2006 17:09 
 62   one other thing.     (@/*)+(n) =?    Mon Jan 23, 2006 17:30 
 63   another opinion     lazarus    Tue Jan 24, 2006 02:22 
 64   The Church     Joe Christian    Mon Feb 26, 2007 00:25 
 65   Christian Universal Anarchism     Jay    Thu Oct 09, 2008 05:04 


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