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Kevin Myers, Google, China, Celtic Cubs and unfortunately yet more bullshit about the ideals of 1916

category international | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Wednesday February 08, 2006 18:49author by inverted antimatter atomised m-dimensional string being - anton la vey's sewing circleauthor email freedom_for_tibet at china dot comauthor address 1 Tibet House, Hong Kong House, Little Taiwan, Macau.author phone six six six, six six six Report this post to the editors

Trendy tech sector is an extension of fascism/communism in China.

The usual meandering.
"Peoples" "Republic" "of" "China"
"Peoples" "Republic" "of" "China"

Last week in the Irish Times (Feb 2nd), Kevin Myers was up on his soapbox, warning the nation about how the influx of immigrants into the country was changing the ethnic make up of the population; and how by 2016 - the 100th anniversary of the 1916 Easter Rising - roughly a quarter of the country would consider their "home" a place beyond the state boundaries, if the current rate of immigration continues. This spelled "trouble" in his opinion, because when the 100th anniversary rolls around, its aims and ideals would hold no meaning or historical significance for a sizable chunk of the Irish, be they the "new Irish" or the standard "old Irish".

Since when did anyone in this country take the ideals or the aims of the 1916 insurrectionaries seriously - to the point where they continued in the tradition of foolhardy rebellion against the state - whoever it was in power? As soon as we had our little catholic state set up, steeped in monocultural celtic identity and anti-British sentiment, all micro movements in the image of 1916'ers were crushed or branded as 'reds', especially in the 1930's when the government feared (or whipped up fear, funded and backed by the Church, they had the most land and wealth to lose) about a communist takeover. The cultivated image of the Irish as 'rebels' is more a marketing tool aimed at yank tourists than an encouraged way of life. The tradition of 1916 is long dead and gone, they're buried with shining glass office blocks built over the grave.

Nothing encapsulates the dead spirit of 1916 ideals more than the Irish - the native Irish - living in Ireland today. Superficially happy in their shining new cars and 100% mortgaged homes (apart from when it comes to sharing the road for several hours a day with all the other people of course), they are completely disconnected from all struggles of labour or independence. The hyper capitalist marketing dream of the individuals material needs and wants at the peak of the human spectrum of desire has been realised in the Republic.

A prime example of this is the recent decision by Google to extend their tentacles into China, with the domain Google.cn having all the Chinese Government's required filters on Tibet, Tianamen Square, Human Rights etc built into it. Google have also not extended the gmail or blog (online web log, or personal opinion site) services to the "People's Republic". For a company that supposedly prides itself on 'doing no evil', this was bowing to the demands of an oppressive, fascist government, purely for financial gain. They argued that if they didnt set up shop there, then some other company would in their place. That is not the point. No company should be dealing with the Chinese state full stop with its appalling human rights record, but when it comes to the almighty dollar, ethics fly out the window.

Hopefully, eventually, the Chinese communists will be thrown out of power in a 'velvet' or 'orange' style revolution that happened in Eastern Europe in 1989, or more recently in ex-Soviet republics. The number of protests there against state policy increases every year (last year there were approximately 80,000 - information on which is all suppressed by the communist authorities), and if/when this happens, the Western capitalist companies that supported the regime there should be taken to account. Ultimately somewhere down the line I hope that Google will be demonised in the same way that IBM were for their collaboration with the Nazis in processing Holocaust victims.

Google have their headquarters in Barrow Street. Located in the middle of the trendy new Dublin 4 Gasworks development - no social, shared ownership or affordable housing - their workplace and ethos is celebrated as the model for the new service economy workers. Celtic Tiger cubs on decent wages can relax in plush surroundings, chill out on a buddha bag on their lunch break, or play a bit of table football or pool when the mood takes them. Did any of the Irish workers there walk out of their jobs in protest at Google's support for the Chinese Government's suppression of free speech? Did they fuck. They were more concerned about access to gourmet food, relaxation spas, and overseas holidays than dissenting people being silenced, killed, or dumped in prison. Out of sight, out of mind. The internationalist spirit of the likes of Tone, Larkin or Connolly only matters when it relates to access to emerging markets - witness the glut of articles in Sunday supplements heralding property investment in the far east as a blue chip guarantee return.

Kevin Myers shouldnt really be worried about immigrants not having a historical sense of struggle in times past. Chances are they'll be able to work it out for themselves, when Irish bosses pay them below minimum wage and house them in squalid conditions for extortionate rents. They'll slowly come to understand the relationship between them and those who call the shots and treat them like shit, and their relationship with other immigrants living around them and how they too, are being exploited by the Irish. They might even fight back and organise against the bosses of the day, just like the Gama workers eventually found their voice, just like ordinary people did in 1913 and 1916. After all, who does Myers imagine will tell them about the significance of 1916 - the "native" Irish tech sector employees in their 06 SUVs and ivory towers, gorging themselves on "organic" pork and Starbucks lattés? I doubt it...

Wikipedia, Human Rights in China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_People...China
Human Rights Watch: http://hrw.org/doc/?t=asia&c=china
Amnesty Campaign to free Shi Tao: http://web.amnesty.org/pages/chn-310106-action-eng
Kevin Myers' piece: http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/opinion/2006/0202/3591....html
Google's excuses: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/google-in-china.html
Google chooses Gasworks: http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/200....html

author by socialistpublication date Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Just as Myers is wrong to generalise all immigrants, its wrong of you to depict all Irish people as tech sector celtic tiger cubs who only give a shit about themselves.. what about the 100,000 people who marched in support of better wages for immigrants during the irish ferries dispute.

author by Misfitpublication date Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'm not sure how you see Google in China as being a prime example of how the Irish have lost the spirit of the 1916 rising....or where you saw the link at all. Google is an American company, who happens to have an office in Dublin... And simply because their workers enjoy maybe better conditions than the rest of us, does not mean that they are not socially aware.

And is it better to exclude the Chinese people from any form of advanced information search, albeit limited, just to get back at their government? Would it not be best to go in there in a limited form in the hope that by showing them (the Chinese people) the freedom we have here in the West, that they might push more for that freedom of information themselves. If they don't know what's out there, how can they fight to have it?

author by John - Googlepublication date Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hey, if you do feel the need to protest outside Google's offices, see do you know anyone working there, and procure yourself a lunch invite. The new restaurant is open, and it's really good grub. Chinese food is on Tuesdays.

John

author by Anonpublication date Fri Feb 10, 2006 16:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I am not sure what Myers is on about.This is the guy who has spent his journalistic career slating the men and women of 1916 whilst simultaneously celebrating the imperial bloodbath of WW1.He is clearly trying to play the green card now (Knowing well that it still appeals to a lot of Irish people) in an attempt to stir up racism.I agree that the dynamic of 1916 was that it encompassed an array of ideologies, primarily the conservative,catholic,gaelic and militant nationalism of Pearse coupled with the revolutionary socialism of Connolly.It is true to say that the former won out in the free state.That said I think people should know that the main revolutionary thrust of 1916 would not have entertained racism.
I applied for a job with Google lately.I have worked with Intel in the past and went to Google believing that they were more liberal, laid back etc.Let me tell you its a myth.Outwardly it may appear all fun and frolics- bean bags,balloons and arcades but having spoke to people who work there, it would appear that they are just like the rest of them.Any perks you do get they make sure you make up for it ten fold with work and sweat.Most of the new staff are now employed through agencies so they are not entitled to any of the perks and are'nt that well paid.I have to admire their stance against Bush though!
Needless to say I didnt get the job.I passed their work sheet, two of the phone interviews and one face to face interview (five interviews in total) after the second one some yank rang me up saying I was doing fine but I just needed to show a little more enthusiasm and commitment ie more cartwheels and arse licking.Oh well thats just me being bitter.

author by Barrypublication date Fri Feb 10, 2006 20:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

There is not a shred of evidence to support that analysis of Pearses separatist politics . Although not a self proclaimed Marxist , Pearses outlook was most definitely left wing with his support for Dublins striking workers a matter of historical record . There is not even a mention of catholicism in his political analysis . Instead the people he describes as the fathers of the modern Irish nation and republicanism , and whose political teachings he articulated were almost all protestant . Right wing elements certainly did , and continue to hijack his image for their own ends whilst completely ignoring his political analysis , (which you clearly ignore as well) . Just as myriad left wingers have regularly claimed Connolly whilst ignoring his separatist analysis . Neither man can be blamed for the actions of political opportunists after their deaths .

The confessional free state ,whether under the blueshirts or de valera ,bore no resemblance to the fully sovereign independent entity with an emphasis on human dignity as articulated by Pearse . Neither did its oppressive and often violent education system which sought to crush the human spirit and its utter failure to cherish all the children of the nation equally . The free states political ethos was more akin to Daniel OConnells catholic vision than Pearses secular one .

Bland and inaccurate stereotypes are in no way helpful to the understanding of Irish politics .

 
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