The Bertie Fraud

by White Collar Criminal Tue Oct 03, 2006 21:15

The forces of the state are trying to break peaceful community protest.
The dogs in the street know it.
Bertie stated before that he has never been 'unethical' : never been caught more like.
He said that the nearest he came to being unethical was meeting the head of Shell EP.
Repeat that.

This is our kids heritage that they are selling off, destroying, demolishing and
defacing.

Every law they brought in , in relation to planning is weighted against the community.
It criminalises ordinary people.
It benefits the rich.
The PPP is weighted to the re-zoners and to the corporations.
It is about disempowerment and isolation.
Ghettoes are constructed to hide the poor.

Ordinary kids are being imprisoned in the JOY and coming out dead.
Elitism is based on Materialism.
There is no political mandate for screwing a people.

Remove FF/PD.

by Eoin Dubsky Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:12

Thousands of Hungarians went into the streets and camped outside their government buildings for much less than this. The PDs have publicly declared their support for Bertie no matter what money he received -- Surely it's the perfect time for people to get out onto the streets exposing both parties in Government?

by inevitable Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:19

The majority of the people in this country are fully behind the government...and behind Bertie Ahern. He has done nothing wrong or against the rules. There is absolutely no comparison between this saga and the very serious situation in Hungary. Maybe you should take your temper out on another plane!

by cool j Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:40

I think the problem is that like Mr Inevitable, many people in this country have been so blinded by the greed and rampant materlism of the so-called Celtic-Tiger that the don't care or recognise the rotten corrupt core of this governemnt and the main opposition party. People don't seem to know what corruption is anymore even when its in front of them Indeed I would go as for as to say they wouldn't even put up much of a fight if the British Army rolled in and we became part of the British empire again so long as the big builders, speculalators and big business continue to rake it in(and rip-ff ordinary people in the process) - Indeed I'm begining to wonder was was the point in Ireland getting independence after the scene's this week in Erris.!

PS - People need to wake up and question like why are Irish banks and insurance companies the most profitable in Europe. - Why do we pay so much more for groceries on this side of the border compared to NI?????????

by RJS Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:44

This government got 42% of the vote. I can't remember the turnout. If it was 70%, the government got a whopping 28% endorsement from the Irish people. If the turnout was 63%, the government got an amazing 24% approval - popular indeed.

Given the amount of money it takes these days to wage an election, the idea that there's something democratic about meaningless rhetoric, is bizarre and commonplace at the same time.

by Ag Votail Thu Oct 05, 2006 14:27

A danish group were studying the Irish machines, due to be introduced too in Denmark.
and yes- they are open to interference, secret hacking, software adaption to suit
whatever specific left/right orientation the powers that be would think suit us.

The progressive development model of democracy-observable in Erris.
(get the feckers off the road-it's crony time)
or
The regressive social responsible right-wing coalition -observable through the
FG/Lab pact which will introduce reform (bit like the Tony Blair post-Thatcher admin)

then when enough reform has come to feed the masses we get the FF (clawback party)
and on it goes.

Politics is perception and there is no choice. maybe people would vote in open
fair elections if there was advocacy not clientelism.

So e-voting is kinda out, for the MO.

Now is someone challenging the Aer Lingus sell-out or is that a rumour?

by Flynn - agrescon@agrescon.nl Thu Oct 05, 2006 14:44

Were the Irish Gas deposits , at Middlewich Cheshire discussed at Manchester Bertie ? surely you could have asked someone where they are obtaining 30 million cubic litres ,from ? Milford Havens obtaining theirs from Quatar, and is the Largest in Europe, but its not your Gas anyway and with you running the Circus it wont belong to the Irish People soon. I hope you gave your regards to the Royals of Norway,as your after life will obviously contain the Noble Prize for Incompetancy or even a recommendation for Medical attention . Personally I hope your brought before the Irish Constitutional Courts and Impeached, as you,re having problems with understanding a few paragraphs or sentences contained in the Constitution itself, then we can go ahead in Europe and really make your Day. Standing next to the Kray Twins, you would Shine! Flynn O Flynn

by number 42 - legalise freedom campaign Thu Oct 05, 2006 14:45

Has Anyone out there considered occupying the G.P.O. in a peaceful non uniform manner to get our Country back from the Crooks?

by Ag votail. Thu Oct 05, 2006 16:01

Which I am not at liberty to divulge- involving large amounts of cash
and mismanagement of funds.

Must be a funny moon coming.

The PD's are tight-lipped and won't comment on the latest revelations in the Dail.

It doesn't look good for Mac Dowell.

I would love to drop the anon and write a new article:

MC DOWELL, THE SHORTEST-SERVING TANAISTE IN THE HISTORY OF THE STATE.

HIGGINS WAS RIGHT, THE DOGS PISSING ON THE LAMPOSTS IN RANELAGH UPON WHICH
HE ERECTED HIS LADDER OF RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION AND GUARDIANSHIP OF VOTERS
RIGHTS KNOW ITS ALL BLACK LIES.