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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4Happy new year, confused "local". Nice to see you've been busy over the holidays, what would you do without indymedia!?
By the way, your piece tends to contradict itself in a number of ways, but life is too short to engage in point scoring semantics. Check it out yourself.
jm you state "By the way, your piece tends to contradict itself in a number of ways"
If you get the time (in the next week perhaps) you might educate me on where I contradict myself!
To answer your question of "what would you do without indymedia!?"........... the answer to that is if indymedia didnt exist the campaing of mis-info by S2S would would be more dificult (but not impossible)to discredit!
P.s happy new year to you too, Im looking forward to many a good debate in 2007.
30 seconds later.... was this what you meant by
"if you get the time (in the next week perhaps) you might educate me on where I contradict myself!"... ?
re :http://www.climatelaw.org/media/gas.flaring/report/section7
"From this information, it is possible to gauge the extent of human exposure.
According to the World Bank, human exposure to particulate matter causes the following increased rates of adverse health effects:
* 6.72 premature deaths per year for each increase of 1 ug/m3 for each 100,000 persons;
* 1,690 respiratory illnesses per year for each increase of 1 ug/m3 for each 100,000 children; and
* 32,600 asthma attacks per year for each increase of 1 ug/m3 for each 100,000 asthma sufferers.[ 73 ]
Assuming, conservatively, that 40% of the population of Bayelsa State are children[ 74 ] and that 5% of the population are asthma sufferers, particulate matter emissions from gas flaring at the 17 on-shore flow stations in Bayelsa State would likely cause, each year, at least:
* 49 premature deaths
* 4,960 respiratory illnesses among children, and
* 120,000 asthma attacks."
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[ 73 ] World Bank (1997) "Vehicular Air Pollution: Experiences from Seven Latin American Urban Centers," World Bank Technical Paper No. 373, p. 34.
[ 74 ] According to the CIA World Factbook, 43.4% of Nigeria's population is aged 0-14 years (male 29,985,427; female 29,637,684). Available here: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.ht...Intro.
Thank you to the last poster (m) for having the courage and brains to admit that the extract did not come from the "world bank" but rather was "assumed" (to take for granted or without proof;) by "friends of the earth" not really what you can call scientific facts?
Also thanks for pointing out that that the data by the world bank was "Vehicular Air Pollution: Experiences from Seven Latin American Urban Centers," I personally have never seen a oil/ gas refinery driving down a street!
The data from the CIA is not relevant to this debate . My point is S2S is using the credibility of the world bank to support their claim that this refinery will cause health effects on the local population.
Even if you or "friends of the earth" can show the emissions from oil/gas refineries are similar to "Vehicular Air Pollution" then at least put the claim in context.
For example "particulate matter emissions from gas flaring at the 17 on-shore flow stations in Bayelsa State would LIKELY cause," that is 17 oil/gas refineries flaring continuously emmiting probably thousands of times what will ever be flared from corrib (I can do the maths later to give you an actual ratio).
SO where is the contradiction in my original post??