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Sectarianism - it's part of unionist culture - it's a tradition thing, a British thing

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | news report author Tuesday July 03, 2007 21:58author by Harry Wells - The Well, Well, Well Foundation Report this post to the editors

You don't want to mess with tradition - it could rear up and bite you in the ass - or crack your skull wide open

It is that time of year again, the time to attack Catholics, or 'taigs', as they are known in unionist parlance. It comes around every year alongside the Orange Order's determination to go into frenzied celebration of its Protestant and ‘British' way of life.

It's a bit like if, in Britain, the British National Party decided every year to 'celebrate' Britishness, and this was accompanied by attacks on black people or Muslims, accompanied by thousands of marches, mainly through the areas were the people subject to the attacks live. But wait, that "thousands" can't be right. In Northern Ireland there are over 2,000 marches every year between Easter and late August. Why, that would translate in Britain into tens of thousands of marches. Yes, that sounds about right.
It's that time of year again -  kill a catholic time (Ir News 3 july07 Click to read)
It's that time of year again - kill a catholic time (Ir News 3 july07 Click to read)

The British government like to pretend that this is an 'Irish' problem. But this year the British government decided to expose itself to ridicule and to expose its habit of provoking and promoting sectarian violence. The decision not to prosecute police and army personnel who gave unionist killers a license to kill showed, once again, that it was official policy.

Peter Hain exposed the hypocrisy that accompanies British 'divide and rule' policy by claiming to be an outsider, when it came to apportioning blame for the past. He set up a group to get Britain off the hook of all these exposures of British dirty dealing during the 'Troubles'. If it hadn't been for the Brits doing their damnedest to start a sectarian war in the 1970's, there is no way the conflict would have lasted so long. Dublin Monaghan bombings, Miami Showband massacre, bombings and shootings all over the north and in the republic too - all down to unionists in the pay of British military intelligence and the RUC Special Branch (who took their orders from military intelligence).

Hain is originally from South Africa. Once in the 1970s British Special Branch framed him for a bank robbery he did not commit. That is when he was anti apartheid in South Africa and for troops out of Ireland. Now he is covering up those in the same position who did worse in Ireland. Irony, that’s a British thing too, isn’t it?

Relatives for Justice, The Pat Finucane Centre and Justice for the Forgotten: they gave Hain his answer. What questions is Bertie asking? None that we know of. Maybe it would spoil Tony's send-off, before applying British lessons in the Middle East, where they have learned enough already about western intentions.

In the meantime let us sit back and enjoy, in the words of the Reverend Martin Smyth, former Orange Order Grand master (dig those titles), “the biggest folk festival in Europe”. Or should that be ‘volk’ festival.

Anyway it's just a way to love Ulster a lot in a Protestant sectarian kind of way.

Also, you can read the accompanying articles by clicking on them.

But, if you want to do something really useful, contact these people:

Justice for the Forgotten
64-66 Lower Gardiner Street
Dublin 1

Tel : 00353 (1) 855 4300
Fax : 00353 (1) 819 3258

www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org

Related Link: http://www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org

Go where you are not wanted (for good reason) - It's a tradition thing (Ir News 3july07 Click to read)
Go where you are not wanted (for good reason) - It's a tradition thing (Ir News 3july07 Click to read)

Don't make fun of our 'culture' - show respect for intolerance (Ir News 3July07 Click to read)
Don't make fun of our 'culture' - show respect for intolerance (Ir News 3July07 Click to read)

Pretending it's your problem, not ours - it's a British thing (Ir Times 29June07 Click to read)
Pretending it's your problem, not ours - it's a British thing (Ir Times 29June07 Click to read)

Pointing out British hypocrisy - it's an Irish thing (in fact. it's pretty much international these days Click to read)
Pointing out British hypocrisy - it's an Irish thing (in fact. it's pretty much international these days Click to read)

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Bernadette Martin     Jimmy    Wed Jul 04, 2007 00:25 
   The face of intolerance     Tommie    Wed Jul 04, 2007 00:54 
   Here we go again     Ed    Wed Jul 04, 2007 01:56 
   Face facts     Civilian    Wed Jul 04, 2007 08:13 
   Reply to Ed     Harry    Wed Jul 04, 2007 08:43 
   All very boring     John D    Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:01 
   Raison d'etre     Matt    Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:58 
   Boring     Harry    Wed Jul 04, 2007 17:19 
   Here is something for John D to chew on     James    Wed Jul 04, 2007 19:59 
 10   Were not sectarian like those bloody Prods ?     Mike    Wed Jul 04, 2007 23:01 
 11   Do you get it Mike?     Harry    Wed Jul 04, 2007 23:33 
 12   reply to Ed, toss the coin fairly     Pat from Dublin    Thu Jul 05, 2007 00:20 
 13   I love this article     rooster    Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:09 
 14   Rooster rousting     Harry    Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:19 
 15   Orangeism is not Protestantism     starkadder    Thu Jul 05, 2007 13:14 
 16   Harry & James     John D    Thu Jul 05, 2007 16:54 
 17   Eh?     Victor Arbuckle    Thu Jul 05, 2007 17:10 
 18   The problem is lack of any identity so hatred comes to the fore     Patrick Henry    Thu Jul 05, 2007 19:47 
 19   Harry is the one who doesnt get it     Mike    Thu Jul 05, 2007 22:10 
 20   Gimme a break     Harry    Thu Jul 05, 2007 22:43 
 21   Obviously Harry you dont know many (any?) Unionists     Mike    Fri Jul 06, 2007 07:40 
 22   Without bigotry/hate, orangeism has no reason to exist     Sarsfield    Fri Jul 06, 2007 07:56 
 23   Trying to be helpful     Harry    Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:25 
 24   the answers you were looking for     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:56 
 25   more cultural apartheid from republicans like Patrick Henry     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:11 
 26   Yeah, real chalk and cheese....     Home to roost    Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:57 
 27   it must be contagious     matt    Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:09 
 28   Questions, questions     Harry    Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:18 
 29   Victor     John D    Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:44 
 30   John D     Jimmy    Fri Jul 06, 2007 14:05 
 31   Were not sectarian like those bloody Prods ?     Mike    Fri Jul 06, 2007 14:44 
 32   thanks for the advice matt     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 15:46 
 33   harry?     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 15:49 
 34   JohnD?     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 15:51 
 35   A closet RC     matt    Fri Jul 06, 2007 16:29 
 36   no, not the pope, I like women too much to be a pope     rooster    Fri Jul 06, 2007 17:20 
 37   Is Harry Rooster?     Sarsfield    Fri Jul 06, 2007 17:49 
 38   Confused, don't be     Harry    Fri Jul 06, 2007 18:11 
 39   Pot v's Kettle     Mike    Fri Jul 06, 2007 19:04 
 40   I am no bigot     Patrick Henry    Fri Jul 06, 2007 19:14 
 41   Ho ho ho     Mike    Fri Jul 06, 2007 19:50 
 42   A Bigot in denial     Mike    Fri Jul 06, 2007 21:49 
 43   Ho ho ho (again)     Harry    Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:09 
 44   Go easy on the poor fellow     Jimmy    Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:14 
 45   A genuine unionist hero - unionists wanted to turn his house into a museum, a tourist attraction     Harry    Sat Jul 07, 2007 14:06 
 46   Most Haunted Team should investigate house of the Unionist Mass Murderer     Curious Spirit    Sat Jul 07, 2007 15:56 
 47   ancient history dude     rooster    Sat Jul 07, 2007 16:02 
 48   Ancient History, my arse....     Patrick Henry    Sat Jul 07, 2007 16:50 
 49   2003     Harry    Sat Jul 07, 2007 21:14 
 50   these are your own words!     rooster    Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:30 
 51   Learn something every day     Sarsfield    Sun Jul 08, 2007 13:03 
 52   get real Harry     rooster    Sun Jul 08, 2007 13:26 
 53   innocent?     Sarsfield    Sun Jul 08, 2007 13:37 
 54   Typical     Harry    Sun Jul 08, 2007 14:43 
 55   innocent and typical?     rooster    Sun Jul 08, 2007 20:02 
 56   Unionist killing and sectarian attacks     Harry    Sun Jul 08, 2007 23:35 
 57   How about this, Rooster? Recent enough for you?     Harry    Mon Jul 09, 2007 00:37 
 58   Britsh Army and sectarian killing - new reveations     Harry    Tue Jul 10, 2007 00:09 
 59   So whats the whole point to this topic?     Ed    Tue Jul 10, 2007 14:15 
 60   Time will tell     Big Mac    Tue Jul 10, 2007 15:47 
 61   Britsh Army and sectarian killing - new reveations?     rooster    Tue Jul 10, 2007 20:28 
 62   Sectarian bigots     Protestant    Tue Jul 10, 2007 22:44 
 63   Questions, questions - and answers     Harry    Wed Jul 11, 2007 01:12 
 64   I see what you mean Harry     Ed    Wed Jul 11, 2007 02:21 
 65   makes sense     fdr    Wed Jul 11, 2007 13:19 
 66   A small point about giant bonfires....     Patrick Henry    Wed Jul 11, 2007 14:54 
 67   Burn baby burn     Red Jed    Wed Jul 11, 2007 20:02 
 68   Bonfires an Ancient Irish Tradition     Seaicilín F    Wed Jul 11, 2007 23:05 
 69   All very interesting     Harry    Thu Jul 12, 2007 09:19 
 70   Some examples     Harry    Thu Jul 12, 2007 09:37 
 71   Oops     Harry    Thu Jul 12, 2007 09:39 
 72   Bigots     Sarsfield    Thu Jul 12, 2007 09:57 
 73   KAT- KAI     Harry    Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:07 
 74   Chuig: Harry of the Wells     Seaicilín F    Thu Jul 12, 2007 18:25 
 75   The Tricolour DOES NOT represent the orange orders     Baz    Thu Jul 12, 2007 19:11 
 76   tricolour - hate to nitpick but...     Barry    Thu Jul 12, 2007 19:33 
 77   You are legally allowed make your orange part as big or as small as your want. though 3:1 is norm.     3r's    Thu Jul 12, 2007 19:41 
 78   The Four Provinces of Ireland Flag     Seaicilín F    Thu Jul 12, 2007 20:12 
 79   the same thing happened to my granny..,     iosaf    Thu Jul 12, 2007 22:28 
 80   What the fuc....     Red Jed    Thu Jul 12, 2007 23:14 
 81   Unionists celebrate the deaths of dead Catholics, and ask: "Whose Next?"     Harry    Fri Jul 13, 2007 09:30 
 82   It seems that its not just Protestants that like to start fires!     rooster    Fri Jul 13, 2007 20:46 
 83   and its not just the Apprentice Boys who are targeted!     rooster    Fri Jul 13, 2007 20:48 
 84   Horay for the web     Burt    Fri Jul 13, 2007 21:06 
 85   Co. Londonderry ?? - never heard of it.     Seaicilín F    Sat Jul 14, 2007 01:12 
 86   OK to burn?     rooster    Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:26 
 87   condemnation or the lack thereof?     rooster    Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:36 
 88   Rubbish     Roostered    Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:56 
 89   Rooster's pathetic response     Harry    Sat Jul 14, 2007 14:49 
 90   Chuig: 'Rooster'     Seaicilín F    Sat Jul 14, 2007 15:55 
 91   One of two probable translations -     Sharon .    Sat Jul 14, 2007 19:25 
 92   is this FAIR?     SillyFrazier    Sat Jul 14, 2007 22:00 
 93   King Billy & his Catholics     man in Laois    Sat Jul 14, 2007 23:40 
 94   Protocol     beingdiplomatic    Sun Jul 15, 2007 02:47 
 95   It looks like we are back in the playground     D.Carney    Sun Jul 15, 2007 03:51 
 96   Patronising, ignorant, nonsense     Harry    Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:13 
 97   Bitter to the point of twisted     Eddie    Sun Jul 15, 2007 13:34 
 98   wise up     The Barley Shaker    Sun Jul 15, 2007 14:00 
 99   Reply to Eddie     Harry    Sun Jul 15, 2007 19:00 
 100   To Harry     rooster    Sun Jul 15, 2007 22:19 
 101   Rooster's pathetic response (2)     Harry    Mon Jul 16, 2007 07:13 
 102   And and bears dont really s**t in the woods     LMAO    Mon Jul 16, 2007 19:19 
 103   Look before you leap     Harry    Mon Jul 16, 2007 20:11 
 104   Getting things clear     IC    Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:13 
 105   Bitchy argument, IC     Patrick Henry    Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:58 
 106   None so blind     Barley Shaker    Tue Jul 17, 2007 16:33 
 107   Orange Order letters from Irish News     Peggie Letter More    Wed Jul 18, 2007 15:50 
 108   To Harry, et al - another one of my pathetic responses     ROOSTER    Wed Jul 18, 2007 17:58 
 109   Comment on "another one of [Rooster's] pathetic responses"     Harry    Thu Jul 19, 2007 08:06 
 110   not sure what your trying to argue now Harry     rooster    Fri Jul 20, 2007 19:57 
 111   Its my fault?     Harry    Fri Jul 20, 2007 20:14 
 112   very inadaquate     rooster    Fri Jul 20, 2007 21:48 
 113   Are you kids still fighting?     Zzzzzz    Fri Jul 20, 2007 23:25 
 114   Chuig: Rooster     Seaicilín F    Sat Jul 21, 2007 00:18 
 115   An argument!     Harry    Sat Jul 21, 2007 08:46 
 116   Catholics...secterian....never!     Fergleen    Thu Aug 02, 2007 16:00 
 117   Scéal brónach ar fad/A sad story entirely.     Seaicilín F    Thu Aug 02, 2007 22:36 
 118   GAA must act     rooster    Fri Aug 03, 2007 08:22 
 119   And what about the OO.......     Roostered    Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:08 
 120   What about the OO?     rooster    Wed Aug 08, 2007 08:27 
 121   Progress     Watcher    Wed Aug 08, 2007 09:39 
 122   OO the most worthless organisation to be founded in Ireland     Seaicilín F    Wed Aug 08, 2007 14:42 
 123   a few facts gents     rooster    Wed Aug 08, 2007 17:45 
 124   And again     Watcher    Wed Aug 08, 2007 18:00 
 125   'Who do you know from round here? Are you a Taig [Catholic]?' Could I sing The Sash?     Nigel Hardwick    Sat Aug 11, 2007 09:04 
 126   How typical     Jamie. S.    Sat Aug 11, 2007 16:41 
 127   religion?     Matt    Tue Aug 14, 2007 09:20 
 128   A new dispensation?     Sceptic    Tue Aug 14, 2007 09:56 
 129   dinosaurs     aristotle    Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:25 
 130   Reply to Aristotle     Fred Johnston    Tue Aug 14, 2007 14:01 
 131   The bottom line     Sarsfield    Tue Aug 14, 2007 17:09 
 132   pipe dreamer     rooster    Tue Aug 14, 2007 17:42 
 133   No doubt     Sarsfield    Tue Aug 14, 2007 18:03 
 134   Zero Tolerance for Orange Order Bigots!     Seaicilín F    Tue Aug 14, 2007 19:14 
 135   sarsfield/scealin     rooster    Tue Aug 14, 2007 20:40 
 136   Life's too short     Sarsfield    Tue Aug 14, 2007 21:08 
 137   hasta la vista     aristotle    Tue Aug 14, 2007 23:14 
 138   Were you asleep     Sarsfield    Wed Aug 15, 2007 08:07 
 139   Poor Aristotle     Lincoln    Wed Aug 15, 2007 09:02 
 140   equilibrium and justice or lex talionis?     rooster    Wed Aug 15, 2007 09:37 
 141   Lincoln reckons a united Ireland is inevitable, forgive me if I don't hold my breath!     rooster    Wed Aug 15, 2007 13:08 
 142   Misses the significance     Sarsfield    Wed Aug 15, 2007 13:51 
 143   warts and all     verucca    Wed Aug 15, 2007 13:58 
 144   Analogies?     Sceptic    Wed Aug 15, 2007 14:04 
 145   Spin and false victomhood     Steve    Wed Aug 15, 2007 14:57 
 146   the unity train has left     matt    Wed Aug 15, 2007 15:12 
 147   Loyalist Propaganda     pat c    Wed Aug 15, 2007 15:31 
 148   Shut your mouths and open your eyes     Patrick Henry    Wed Aug 15, 2007 18:49 
 149   Degrees of moral turpitude?     Sceptic    Wed Aug 15, 2007 20:12 
 150   Chuig: Sceptic - Bíodh ciall agat!     Seaicilín F    Wed Aug 15, 2007 21:23 
 151   Credibility of the accusers     Sceptic    Wed Aug 15, 2007 23:34 
 152   Swings and roundabouts     Pragmatist    Thu Aug 16, 2007 13:55 
 153   Big bad loyalists are the only evil     Tommy Filhinger    Thu Aug 30, 2007 13:43 
 154   The face of unionist sectarianism     Jimmy    Fri Sep 14, 2007 15:42 


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