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category cork | anti-war / imperialism | news report author Monday July 16, 2007 11:36author by John Jefferies - Anti-War Ireland (Cobh)author address Cobh, Co. Cork Report this post to the editors

HMS Liverpool in the heart of Cork City

A ship that served on the US / British naval taskforce in the Persian Gulf during the invasion of Iraq visited "neutral" Cork Harbour at the weekend. Once again Irish neutrality was breached shamelessly. Rumour has it that more visits to Cork Harbour are likely in advance of next year's 70th anniversary of the 1938 handing over of the "Treaty Ports". Looks like we've effectively handed them back.
HMS Liverpool passing Cobh this morning on her way out
HMS Liverpool passing Cobh this morning on her way out

HMS Liverpool (D92), a Type 42 destroyer and sister-ship of the ill-fated Sheffield and Coventry visited Cork Harbour at the weekend and was berthed at the North Custom House Quay - a few hundred metres away from the city centre.

The 4,820 tonne displacement HMS Liverpool left Cork Harbour this morning (Monday) after its weekend visit accompanied by the Port of Cork tug Gerry O'Sullivan. Over the weekend she was heavily guarded by gardaí and armed branch men.

At 125m long (410 feet) and with a crew of 287 on board, the HMS Liverpool is armed to the teeth with the following armaments:-

Twin Sea Dart Missile launcher
4.5 inch (114 mm) Mk 8 gun
2 x 20 mm Oerlikon guns
2 x Vulcan Phalanx close in weapons system (CIWS)
2 x Triple anti submarine torpedo tubes
NATO Seagnat and DLF3 Decoy Launchers

She also carries a Lynx HMA8 helicopter

In 2003 HMS Liverpool was part of the naval task force sent to the Persian Gulf at the start of the US led invasion of Iraq. She had just completed the second test of a Sea Dart missile at sea and had undergone extensive refitting at Rosyth dockyard. In 2003 at the beginning of the Iraq invasion she served as air defence commander to the UK Maritime Battlegroup as well as being the guardship of the Royal Navy's flagship aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal.

author by Dublin AWI'erpublication date Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

These warships are slipping in and out of Ireland now on a regular basis. As part of the British (imperialist) war machine they are no different than the US military being at Shannon airport. Anti-war activists need to be equally vocal in opposing these guys.

author by wise manpublication date Mon Jul 16, 2007 20:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Who ever posted that is talking rubbish and needs medication, Ireland will never hand back its ports to the british and the warships come here for rest and recouperation not on a bombing mission.

author by Joepublication date Mon Jul 16, 2007 21:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Have the British not got plenty of their own ports for rest and recouperation?

author by SINBAD - DISNEY NAVYpublication date Wed Jul 18, 2007 19:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Don't you think that we might extend a little courtesy and hospitality to our neighbours on their visits at this stage in the Anglo-Irish game ?

Do bear in mind that we have a heavy moral burden for which we have never apologised to them.

During WW 2 we would not allow them the use of our ports. This lead directly to the deaths of many allied and Irish merchant seafarers because convey protection was restricted in it's range thanks to our moral stand during de 'mergency (no WW 2 here mate). Mind you we were happy to accept imports from them at the same time. I think this is called typical Irish duplicity and hypocrisy.........

author by Guypublication date Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Courtesy' to our neighbours? 'Peace Process'? This is nothing to do with the so called Irish Peace Process which should more correctly be called 'the project to sell the Treaty under a new name'. The objection to this ship is because it is part of the illegal invasion, dectruction and murder it has participated in in Iraq.
I wonder if those extendng friendship to these murderers are the Irish Navy cadets who did their training with the British Navy and are now sticking up for their ole pals?

author by SINBAD - THE SANE PEOPLE PARTYpublication date Fri Jul 20, 2007 19:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Guy.

Any evidence for your allegations which appear to be rigidly formed judgments at this stage ? I am asking for factual evidence as distinct from the usual propagation of the logical fallacy of the repeated proposition by those with predetermined conclusions.

By the way the British Navy is properly called the Royal Navy.

It is many years now since the RN undertook the training of Irish Naval Service cadets as they were then known. Incidentally, if it is of any interest to you, the Irish cadets all performed extremely well in the UK over the years and gave good accounts of themselves.

What is your position on Irish citizens of to-day who work in the RN ? How do you regard them ?

author by Wise manpublication date Mon Jul 30, 2007 19:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors


Anyone who disagrees with british ships entering irish ports disagrees with nationalists sharing power with unionists.

I dont love the royal navy but they are more than welcome to visit ireland, the days of 1916 are over and some irish people should stop living in the stone age.

author by citizenpublication date Tue Jul 31, 2007 01:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I don't want these ships in our ports. As a citizen, I don't recall ever being given a say in whether I approved of this kind of thing . I bet they don't even pay for the privilege. What if there is an accident? Are they a target for terrorism? It's every bit as bad as shannon.

author by Despublication date Tue Jul 31, 2007 14:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Anyone who disagrees with british ships entering irish ports disagrees with nationalists sharing power with unionists."

What utter rubbish! I am all for Nationalists sharing power with Unionists, but why should that mean I must accept vessels of war coming to my country? Should I all of a sudden accept the British occupation of Iraq and forget about all the innocent people who have died in the process? and maybe you think I should just forget the past and stop demanding that the British Government reveal the truth and extent of the dirty tricks employed by them during the troubles and should I no longer want to see the truth come out about things like Bloody sunday?

author by sgtpepperband - Royal Navypublication date Thu Dec 06, 2007 18:35author email author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I was born in Castletownbere but was brought up in SE London. Joined the Royal Navy at 16 and am still serving. During my service I have been victim to some good natured (and not so good natured) vitriol due to my ancenstry, in the usual "British" vein (Ireland=terrorists+dodgy builders, etc.). Conversely I have never received any hostility from family about my choice of career, of which they are proud; many Irishmen have served in the Royal Navy over the centuries, most notably Shackleton and the Kerryman Tom Crean (a personal hero of mine).

I have visited Ireland on many occasions to visit family in Cork and Wicklow, but regrettably not visiting on board one of my ships. Mainly because I would like to show my family what I do for a living, but also to show my fellow servicemen that Ireland and its people are the most hospitable and welcoming people I have come to know.

Of course my life is filled with stories of the Ireland's incestuous relationship with Britain and I am not naive enough to believe that everyone wants to 'forgive and forget'; in my own way, I try to educate my British colleagues of its own 'forgotten history', but I would like to tell you that any RN warship that visits Ireland is a good thing, for both sides. When former enemies visit host countries (Russian and Chinese warships often visit Portsmouth) it will not be long before more UK warships visit Ireland - without agenda or manifesto.

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