Meath Ogra Shinn Fein says Moilligh Síos!

by clone Sun Aug 12, 2007 18:52

penny dropped. iam talking from a dublin perspective you seem to be talking from a 6 counties experience.

everything i said is true. obviously the movement was and is bigger in the 6 counties and as such have more capabilities and things might be changeing up there fair enough. But dublin is a different kettle of fish, i don't believe i've been any way miss leading.

by Someone silly Sun Aug 12, 2007 17:44

Why is it every time Ogra posts something on Indymedia bad people come along and spoil it?
What about this idea, Ogra? Why don't you block the M50 every week on Friday evenings with your placards about road safety?

by Big Mac Sun Aug 12, 2007 17:25

Clone your answers are typical of many Shinners I have heard recently. There seems to have been a list of answers and put-downs drawn up and passed around, because everyone of you seems to answer awkward questions exactly the same. "Our hands are tied....blah...blah... We have to move on" etc.
The fact is clone before SF caved in or as you call it, ceasefires, drug dealers were very few and far apart and wouldn't have dared target Republicans. Since Paisley, with a little help from the SF leadership put a lease around the neck of Republicans, drug dealing has got out of control. Of course this would also assist SF in introducing the PSNI into Republican areas as of late they seem to have been left with egg on their face following their ludicrous claims that they were going to put manners in the PSNI. We're still waiting while the cops still control the scumbags and let them loose on our streets.

by clone Sun Aug 12, 2007 16:32

republicians getting treatend by drug dealers is nothing new. If you think it's down to recent developments then you're mistaken.

by CLONE Sun Aug 12, 2007 16:29

if SF called you'd come out. well your one of the very few so. Fair play to you. and i mean that i'd respect it.

In reality SF is a small organisation in the past it puched way above its weight. Alot of people took/take that for granted and expect them to be able to solve problems as quick as they clicked there fingers. It doesn't work like that. The woman who would give out that nothing is being done in her area but would rather watch eastenders or fair city than go out side her door and actually do something that's what bothers me. how can SF or anybody else do anything under that. there in the main a voluntary organisation, it's unreasonable to expect them to be there as quick as the AA thats what i was getting at in responce to a previous post by a kd (i think)

by King Billy Sat Aug 11, 2007 20:48

Well said fish but there are only 4 or 5 little sinns in meath. They do as they are told and if they step out of line they are not let meet him the most high and not to meet him is like not having air. God help them they do their best but are keep down by their local boss ie. look at tara not to be seen. In fact none of the sinners have the balls to be seen helping tara it must be uncool for pro R.U.C. but bet they will be over in King Billys glen to bow to the R.e.v. You see Fish they are lost misgided kids with no were to go they are used for work others would not get out off bed for or leave the pub for. but at least they got on indy and are doing some thing not like their bar stool bosses. Keep it up meath orga you will soon see you are been used.

by A Town Sat Aug 11, 2007 20:47

So this is what sinn fein calls a victory, we are left with a so called settlement where drugdealers can intimidate Republican families, we must surely be a crowd of ungrateful B*****s

by Big Mac Sat Aug 11, 2007 19:42

I was in SF in the past and left for personal reasons, in other words you were shafted.
I see however that you were in SF as you use the old 'if you want the drug dealers sorted, do it yourselves, you can't expect us to put our necks on the line' excuse for doing nothing. There's a couple of things you seem to forget, clone, firstly, I'm not an elected representative, elected to look after the interests of my community and supposed to lead the line when that community needs me and my party. If SF were to call for people to come on to the streets to confront the scumbags then I would be first out.
Secondly, clone, SF boldly announced that they were going to hold the police to account and that was their reason for following the SDLP onto the Policing board. Put manners into them we were told, but we all know that was a feeble excuse for allowing Paisley to pressurise them into supporting the PSNI and the courts.
The Police still use these scum to terrorise our communities and SF has yet to demand action, but we all realize that SF are no better than the SDLP when comes to doing something meaningful.

by clone Sat Aug 11, 2007 17:31

i was in SF in the the past left for personal reasons but i hated that line why don't. why don't you... you would sit and watch a drug dealer and give out at others not from your area for not doing anything. that is mental. If a provo did go after a drug dealer you'd be just as quite when the drug dealers are intimidateing republician families

by KD Sat Aug 11, 2007 17:03

I am living in an area plagued by drug dealers and other scum I have yet to see Ogra or even Sinn Fein on the streets trying to do something about it.
I wouldn't even know a member of Ogra Sinn Fein if I saw one, they seem to spend their time setting up web sites and posing for photos.

by Fish Sat Aug 11, 2007 15:14

Why aren't Ogra out on the Streets of our Towns and Cities campaigning against drugs and alcohol and the damage it is doing to our kids. They should be organising protests outside the homes of well known drug dealers and the off-licences which are knowingly selling alcohol to our children instead of telling motorists to slow down in Navan.
If you want to do something useful ask your leadership in Sinn fein when are they going to start putting manners in the PSNI like they said they were going to do. Then again this was just another lie to be able to support the cops as demanded by Paisley.

by Paddy Joe Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:55

A friend of mine who is an OSF activist in Dublin, told me that the membership had voted to accept a motion to make Workers Rights the Next OSF campaign. Can anyone clarify if this is true? If so, why was the decision ignored?

by Larry Jenkins Thu Aug 09, 2007 23:46

Great iniative Ógra - very impressed. Good angle for the campaign as well!

by Dessie Black - Road Saftey Awareness Network Thu Aug 09, 2007 22:27

Glad to see young ones taking an intrest for once, well done to all of you involved!