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Jump To Comment: 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1Guardian blog on the G20 summit - day 2
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2009/apr/02/g20-sum...eblog
http://therampart.wordpress.com/
(Guardian) 2.05pm
Paul Lewis says he's receiving information of people emerging from the Rampart Street "squat" with head injuries.
He says it's more of a social centre.
(IMC-LONDON) 13:55 Police have now left Rampart, there are no police left in the building or on the roof. Last few searches are occuring outside
(IMC-LONDON) 13:04 Raid a t the Rampart centre ongoing. Legal observers were taken away and searched by FIT officers and threatened with arrest under anti-social behaviour legislation, the Riot police are focibly removing people. The riot police brough an embedded ITN news crew on the raid.
(Independant UK) Police raid 'squats' linked to G20 violence
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-r....html
youtube vids from yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/user/piper4242
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http://www.dissidentisland.org/ShowArchive/2009-04-01.html
Go to end to listen from this thread
including the space hijackers tank story
info from yesterdays DN! show outlining reasons behind the protests etc:
As Obama Arrives in London for G20, Tens of Thousands Gather to Protest in the Streets
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/1/as_obama_arrives_i...n_for
G20 protests: Riot police, or rioting police?
The trouble-makers are out in force again. Dressed in black, their faces partly obscured, some of them appear to be interested only in violent confrontation. It's almost as if they are deliberately raising the temperature, pushing and pushing until a fight kicks off. But this isn't some disorganised rabble: these people were bussed in and are plainly acting in concert. There's another dead giveaway. They are all wearing the same slogan: Police.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/200...-riot
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(RECENT) Timeline of events:
12:50 80-100 people at bank outside the stock exchange, walking kettle, all peaceful, march coming down from Threadneedle St
12:44 Police are detaining everyone inside the Earl St Convergence Centre
12:40: Police are on the ground and top floor of Earl St, people have barricaded themselves in on the first floor
12:36: Police on ground floor of Earl St Convergence Centre
12:34: Report of Police entering Rampart with shields, building fully surrounded
12:30: 100 Riot police with door opening equipment and armoured vehicles are outside the Earl St Convergence Centre
Cops start "riots" in London?
http://www.archive.org/download/DissidentIslandRadioApril1st2009-G20Part1/Dissident_Island_Radio-April-01-2009_64kb.mp3
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Things will be run the same way they always have been - that is badly.
If history has taught us anything it is that the human race is a hierarchy, a more sophisticated version of a pride of lions or baboons.
Human beings are ultimately obssessed with three inter-related commodities - Money, Sex and Power.
The people who rule will always be those have all three.
Thus has it ever been and will always be.
Revolutions are merely the displacement of one elite for another.
The iron filings will always be attracted by the magnet.
Water will always be wet.
Become an eater or be eaten.
I agree with you Mike, but at the end of the day protesting doesnt gain much. All those protests all over the world to stop the Iraq war, did they work? No. The world is changing and I believe the only way for the people to take control is through other means, violence should be the very last step. Mass disruption of the capitalist systems of power and control is what should be done, and theres many ways to do that?? But the real problem is that most people at the moment dont care because life is too easy at the moment, but thats just starting to change. The people who control and run this world will not give up their power or wealth very easy, protests wont do much!
You can't be violent towards inanimate objects.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSocialistParty
well I thought the guardian internet users would have been more sympathetic to the protesters cause..
the link below shows good photos from today (if you click on the circles it brings up an image)
Once again a legitimate protest gets sidetracked by a bunch of children in masks and backpacks. Tomorrow the newspapers or the wider public will not focus on all the real issues that various groups were trying to raise but instead will focus on windows getting smashed and people being arrested. These posers serve the police - they are part of the police, without them the police wouldnt exist, they think they are anarchists because they have a little flag, mask and backpack but they are wearing a uniform just like their beloved enemies - each makes the other exist, they are one. All the issues get flushed down the toilet. Now the focus is on the violence.
Not a suprise really, anyone who inhabits Cif will know that if there is such a thing as a typical Guardian browser he/she is not a fully paid up member of the sterotypical tree-hugging anti capitalist cohort. Rather GU readers are ordinary internet users with "average" lives, not based on a hard ideology.
I think the comments to this blog are 'interesting' too - the comments are mostly against the protesters which I was really suprised at - the Guardian readership could be mistaken for Financial Times readers