Scuppering a Needed Plan

by Tara Tara Tara Mon Jun 14, 2010 13:32

http://www.meath.ie/LocalAuthorities/Planning/TaraSkryn...ject/

This is the plan in question. The Meath Councillors one by one are admitting they havnt even read it and yet they feel qualified to vote against it. They are being stirred up by the usual suspects already mentioned by the previous poster- and others. They are saying that they werent involved, not informed of meetings and workshops but that is a lie. They just didnt bother to turn up.

The Farmers are saying they wernt represented either but there wasa IFA rep there at the Boundary Workshop- he just didnt bother to report back to his other group members about it. That is a piece of news that came as quite a shock to them over the weekend.There is a concerted effort to scupper the plan between the lot of them so that the developers can continue their cosy relationships with Meath Councillors and with the Council coffers broke they will bend over whatever way they are told to.

God help Ireland.

by TaraTaraTara Mon Jun 14, 2010 14:03

These Politicians have stated publicly that they will be voting against the Landscape Conservation Area even before the deadline for submissions has been reached. The deadline for submissions is Wednesday 16th June 3.30pm

More photos will be added , watch this space.

Nick Killian

Joe Reilly

Shane Mc Entee

Seamus O Neill

Tommy Reilly

by O'Reilly - None Mon Jun 14, 2010 15:13

What right do people have to destroy in one life something that has remained over thousands and may be needed over thousands more?

by TaraTaraTara Mon Jun 14, 2010 17:14

Here's another. In fact Deputy Shane Mc Entee FG is on the record as saying that the FG Party line is to all blanket vote against the Plan. So thats both main parties against it and most Independents by all accounts swung over by Nick Killian etc. Some are more careful than others where they are heard talking.

Suzanne Jamal FG

by Carmel Diviney - Tara Skryne Preservation Group Tue Jun 15, 2010 14:00

FG's Shane Mc Entee and Suzanne Jamal both bungle their way through the brilliant questions posed by Michael Reade - some of which came from Meath Archaeological and Historical Society. Mc Entee was unable to show the relevant part of the document that says there will be no provision for one off housing. He first agrees with MAHS then contradicts himself that there will be no change to planning provisions by deflecting the Tara Landscape Conservation Area Plan into comparison with the Newgrange Buffer Zone which is governed by a completly different set of rules ie. UNESCO World Heritage Status something which Tara is never likely to get due to the M3 Monster roaring through the Valley. Note that a similar application for World Heritage Status has been declined for years at Armagh's Royal Site, Navan Fort, due to its proximity to a quarry.

They are peddling misinformation and responding to local fears by scaremongering and prostitutiong themselves for votes instead of informing and educating the locals to the actual contents of the document which they have obviously not studied.

When Jamal was asked if the local representatives have been asleep at the wheel seeing as it took five years for FG to change their minds on the plan which was endorsed and included in the Meath County Development Plan 2007-2013 she responds by saying that locals would be evicted! Michael Reade asks "Who will be evicted?" and then she back tracks to saying that they need reassurances. I have never heard such scandalous misrepresentation in all my life.

Well done MAHS for getting in there and showing them up.

Carmel

http://www.lmfm.ie/music/podcasts.aspxfor the download or play of the pod cast of the 14th.
22 mins in (Tara LCA)

The Michael Reade Programme Monday 14th June 2010

Today: Fine Gael? Our Political Editor, Eileen Brophy joins Michael to discuss Richard Bruton’s decision to challenge the leadership of Fine Gael. With a no confidence motion in the Taoiseach due to be debated in the Dail tomorrow, Eileen says the timing of this is just “stupid”. At a time when all focus should be on Brian Cowen’s performance as Minister for Finance, has Fine Gael just shot itself in the foot? Local TD in Meath East, Shane McEntee tells Michael Bruton would not make a good leader and that Enda Kenny enjoys his support for as long as Bruton remains in finance. Deputy McEntee also thinks the draft conservation plan for Tara/Skryne will make it more difficult to get planning permission for one off housing. Local resident Mary agrees and FG Cllr. Suzanne Jamall says she must represent the views of locals. The Chief Fire Officer for Louth, Eamonn Wolfe outlines the extent of last night’s fire in Dundalk’s Retail Park which destroyed 2 units. Clogherhead RNLI’s Padraig Rath explains to Michael how the volunteer life boat crew brought four people to safety yesterday when their dinghy drifted a half mile out to sea. FF Senator Mark McSherry joins Michael to debate the banking reports and government’s role in the near collapse with FG’s Kieran O’Donnell but the latter fails to answer the phone. Patsy McGarry of the Irish Times outlines to Michael the damming findings of a poll on the Catholic Church. And Conor Brady in Slane reacts to the latest development in the proposals for a bypass of the village. As usual, there's much comment and reaction from the phones and text messages, an integral part of the programme.

by CharlesBurgess - Cornell University Tue Jun 15, 2010 14:06

This is despite the fact that in the Meath County Development Plan, one of the council's stated objectives is to, 'designate the historic Tara Skryne Area as a Landscape Conservation Area.'

by Morrigan Tue Jun 15, 2010 14:59

Guess they didnt read that bit either Charles. This is the first Landscape Conservation Area ever for the whole country so Mc Entees yak about past experiences has even less bearing on the truth.

by Farrelly57 - Private Tue Jun 15, 2010 16:46

To Meath Politicians; S. Cassells and S. Jamal,

I have just listened with alarm to your simple, flat voiced support of mob rule in a podcast from a radio program on Monday.
Classic political ideology seen it as given that some people (politicians) would educate themselves, research, accept and then promote change for the better. This is what we call leadership.
You though seem to say no; we let people instead decide and we will follow them.
Mz Jamal has even said that even if people are wrong she will still be with them.
If they decide to badger bait, witch hunt or lynch then so be it.
Of course this will not happen in Meath so we make do with lesser evils. Ordinary people do litter, pollute, defoliate, kill, maim and destroy; the royal county shows this to anyone who cares to walk its once emerald fields.
Shane talks about shooting, fishing and fun; but is it all fun?
Shooting involves blowing the head of a mother hare trying to protect her young, shooting involves killing a goose who wishes to land here and rest, shooting involves killing crows who have lived here longer than those who see it fun to murder them.
Would either of you class this fun in public?
I personally found two dead crows in one field last Sunday near Tara, I count tens of these intelligent creatures dead on any stretch of road, anywhere.
Tara and its lawn is in trouble, our land is in trouble, our planet too. We need leadership in a way we never did before yet both of you misuse your positions to make things worse.
I hope that the real powers that govern existence have listened to your weaselled words and that one day you will be force to pay.
I hope you both will not escape the destruction that you now so casually prepare.

by Observer Wed Jun 16, 2010 15:13

In fairness Farrelly 57, it was actually Shane Mc Entee FG who was on the radio with Jamal. Not to say the other fella isnt of the same opinion seeing as he is FF though. They are all supporting each other these days by the looks of things.

by TaraTaraTara Wed Jun 16, 2010 18:14

Some more political prostitutes to add to the list. Apologies if some photos are very small.

Check out this largely one way article from the Meath Chronicle: Local anger intensifies...

Mary Wallace FF

Thomas Byrne FF

Francis Deane Ind

by Farrelly57 - Private Thu Jun 17, 2010 08:51

Sorry,
I have just been informed that I have made a grave and terrible mistake.
I wish to apologise.
It was Shane McEntee TD of Fine Gael that was on the radio program not Cllr Shane Cassells.
I mixed up one Meath Shane with another, the result of a mix up of email addresses.
However my little letter was intended to all politicians who now despoil and destroy the once Royal County of Meath.
Both Shane’s belong to parties who are becoming deeply unpopular, trying to dump their leaders and thus slip the net of history with regards to their part in the destruction of Ireland.
Neither have ever show any interest in sustainability or its ethics, both welcomed the M3 despite the river of warnings from people who knew better and were sane and civilised, neither seem to have read and then informed the Meath populace about the Tara-Skryne Conservation Plan or moved to put right Mz Jamal’s shameful comments about people being evicted, doing wrong when people demand it etc.
Both are against this plan and will work to have it destroyed, both have said so, both show only contempt for wildlife, our heritage and biodiversity, both support Nama, both supported the Lisbon Treaty and its theft of our sovereignty; I could go on and on.
It has reached a stage where hardly anyone now knows the differ anymore between them, if and when it ever existed, and where almost everyone is beginning to say they are all the same.
As a Meath Man I now apologise for my part in that.

by Farrelly57 - Private Thu Jun 17, 2010 14:04

To Meath Politicians.
In 1998, The Irish Government; then as now Fianna Fail, signed the Aarhus Convention.
In 2007 the same government signed the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
Both of these were hailed as milestones in the relationship between governments, the governed and the environments in which they lived.
Both offered protection against the sort of crimes that are carried out in Ireland now under the banner of need and progress.
However since then neither have been ratified, neither are quoted, respected or recognised.
Do any of you know why?
Do you have thoughts about this?
Will any of you move to correct this or do you all think that these too should be left in darkness and dust, in the interest of the common good?
It seems to me that we are so seriously out of step with the pronouncements we make, with the things we sign up to and the acts we do to have one believe that we, alone on earth, are not bound to reality.

http://www.unece.org/env/pp/treatytext.htm

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/issues/indigenous/declara...n.htm

by Tara Tara Tara - Maria Murphy FG Fri Jun 18, 2010 08:09

Also voting against...

by Tara Skryne Preservation Group Fri Jun 18, 2010 08:27

To whom it concerns,

The Tara Skryne Preservation Group would like to register our deep distress at recent radio and newspaper reports of local Meath Co. Councillors rallying against the implementation of the Tara Skryne Landscape Conservation Area Plan. A campaign of scaremongering and misinformation is being perpetrated by FF, FG and Independent councillors through which allegations of land sterilisation, eviction and non provision for Planning of one off housing has been instigated. The Draft Plan is to go before the Council on 5th July 2010 for voting.

Several Meath Councillors including Shane Mc Entee TD FG , Mary Wallace TD FF and Nick Killian FF are, in our opinion, misrepresenting the facts which can be seen clearly outlined in the Tara Skryne Landscape Conservation Area Plan located on Meath County Council’s website. The Plan contains more than adequate reassurances on these very same issues.

This is scandalous and reprehensible behaviour unbecoming of elected representatives who are supposed to be working for the good of the community. Instead of informing and educating locals whose fears over the implementation of the Plan are intensifying, they have been encouraging opposition to it with misinformation, inaccuracies and innuendo at a series of meetings in Tara Skryne, on LMFM Radio and in local newspaper interviews.

This is the first Landscape Conservation Plan to be drawn up anywhere in this country and was first announced by Dick Roche the Minister for Environment in 2005. It was later endorsed by Meath Councillors and included in the Meath County Development Plan 2007-2013. Many consultative meetings have taken place since then with locals, stakeholders and experts in various fields yet it is only recently that objections have been raised and all before the deadline for submissions had even been reached. This suggests that the voices of those who prepared submissions for the Wednesday 16th June deadline will not be taken into account by these publicly elected Politicians even before the planning process has been concluded.

The Tara Skryne Preservation Group fully supports the principles outlined in the Plan believing it will be of great benefit to the local community by preserving the landscape rich in history and heritage for future generations, as well as promoting Meath as a Tourism and Heritage destination.

We ask that the Meath Co Council team involved with this project, The Heritage Council and the Dept. of the Environment assuage mounting fears amongst locals by counteracting the concerted campaign of negative propaganda which is currently in full sway. We can only assume that the real fears spreading in the community are being fueled by developers etc. in reaction to the prospect of a drop in revenue from not being able to proceed with inappropriate development within the Tara Skryne Valley.

The Tara Skryne Preservation Group calls on our more responsible Politicians to take the lead, to do what is right by coming forward to support the Plan for the present and future good of all.

Is mise le meas,

Carmel Diviney,

Secretary ,

TSPG.

www.taraskryne.com

by Tara Tara Tara Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:55

I dont know who to credit this beautiful photo to. It was shown at a talk given by Joe Fenwick which was hosted by Meath Archaeological and Historical Society at the Interpretive Centre, Hill of Tara last weekend. Many thanks to them for that, it was highly interesting and enjoyable.

by Morrigan Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:11

I heard the story on the 1 o clock, 2 o clock and 3 o clock news. Good!

by Morrigan Thu Jul 22, 2010 16:38

Here is a direct link to the Manager's Report so people can finally read it for themselves and see that all the scaremongering, political shenanigans and ineptitude over one off housing etc was a load of hot air.

http://www.meath.ie/LocalAuthorities/Planning/TaraSkryn...n.pdf

Examples of Manager's Resonse to various submissions:

The Rural Housing Policy for the area as set out in the current County Development Plan 2007-

2013, will remain unchanged if the Landscape Conservation Area is adopted in its current form.

The Tara Skryne Landscape is a living and working landscape with a vibrant rural community

which is detailed in the socio economic profile given in the explanatory document. It is dynamic

and constantly evolving, the objective of this project is to positively manage change guided by

the principles of sustainable development and the policies and objectives of the Meath County

Development Plan 2007-2013.

The Rural Housing Policy for the area as set out in the current County Development Plan 2007-

2013, will remain unchanged if the Landscape Conservation Area is adopted in its current form.

Since commencement of this project in March 2009, Meath County Council is satisfied that,

through a process of active engagement with the local community and other stakeholders,

meaningful public consultation has taken place. This public consultation process is ongoing. For

ease of reporting, the details of this process, rather than being outlined in each submission

response are summarised on Pages 5-8 of this report.

The draft boundary was decided through the public consultation process and reflects the

outcomes of the participatory boundary workshop held on March 24th 2010 where participants

defined the character of the landscape based on physical, cultural and visual characteristics. The

outcomes of the public information events and project stakeholder meetings informed discussions

at the boundary workshop. A report on the boundary workshop has been published on the

project website (www.taralandscape.ie).

The Meath County Development Plan 2007-2013 sets out appropriate planning and sustainable

development policies and objectives for the county and will continue to provide the framework

against which individual planning applications are assessed in the Tara Skryne Landscape.

County Meath is renowned for its rich soils and pasturelands that have supported a variety of

farming types. Meath County Council acknowledges that generations of faming families have

played an important cultural role in maintaining and creating this landscape. In drafting the Tara

Skryne Landscape Conservation Area Meath County Council has articulated that landscape is

about the relation between people and place and has sought a balance approach to landscape

management consistent with the principles of sustainable development.

Meath County Council has held meetings with the Meath IFA and has kept Meath IFA informed

during various stages of the project. Meath IFA was invited to and attended the boundary

workshop on March 24th in the Ardboyne Hotel. A report on the boundary workshop is available

on the project website (www.taralandscape.ie).

The Meath County Development Plan 2007-2013 sets out appropriate planning and sustainable

development policies and objectives for the county and will continue to provide the framework

against which individual planning applications are assessed in the Tara Skryne Landscape.

Current farming practices will not be affected if the LCA is adopted in its current form. Section 204

of the Planning & Development Act, 2000 allows a Planning Authority to designate an area as a

LCA. The Minister may in turn prescribe that certain developments within the area do not

constitute exempted development. The order of the Planning Authority designating the area as an

LCA may specify that any development prescribed by the Minister will not be exempted

development within this area. The de-exemption proposals contained in the draft LCA will not be

activated unless so prescribed by the Minister.
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by Tara Tara Tara Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:19

OL'NICK is at it again. Councillor Nick Killian is sending emails out for people to attend in opposition an Info Meeting on the Tara Landscape Project in the Ardboyne Hotel 7.30pm Mon 13th Sept. Be There.

Original Message -----
From: Cllr Nick Killian (MCC)
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: Submission from the Tara Skryne Preservation Group

NICK KILLIAN

County councillor & Peace Commissioner

Ballybin, Ratoath, Co. Meath

Tel: 01 8256700

Email: nkillian@members.meathcoco.ie

Web: www.nickkillian.ie

Re: Tara/Skryne Landscape Conservation Area Project

Further to our recent contact regarding the above, I wish to inform you of recent contact to us from Wendy Bagnall, Senior Planner, Meath County Council.

They have organised an “information evening” in the Boyne Suite of the Ardboyne Hotel for 7.30pm on Monday 13th September 2010.

I would urge you strongly to attend this meeting as I am of the opinion that Meath County Council will do everything to put this Conservation through the Council meeting in October probably.

They have also invited all Councillors to a similar “information” meeting on September 7th.

I am still completely opposed to this proposed Conservation Area.

Best regards.

Nick Killian

Ol' Nick