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British SAS veteran of Iraq War "I Will Not Fight For Queen and Country"

category international | anti-war / imperialism | other press author Tuesday March 12, 2013 16:37author by ! Report this post to the editors

..... speech given by Ben Griffin at Oxford Union Debate 3.2.13

On 7th February 2013 The Oxford Union held the debate “This House Would Not Fight for Queen and Country”. it was the 80th anniversary of the original debate in 1933 in which The Oxford Union voted in favor of the motion.
Speaking for the motion were Ben Sullivan (Christ Church College), Ben Griffin (Former SAS soldier) and Gareth Porter ( US Historian).
Speaking against were Rory Stewart (Conservative MP), Nikolai Tolstoy (International Monarchist League) and Malcolm Rifkind (Former Foreign Secretary).
On the night the motion was defeated as it has been on every occasion that it has been held since 1937.
Below a transcript of the speech given by Ben Griffin of Veterans for Peace.
I Will Not Fight for Queen and Country

Fight for Queen and Country, what does that mean? It is a jingoistic phrase dream’t up by some propaganda merchant intent on stoking the fire of that false religion patriotism.

The idea of fighting for Queen and Country is held tight by those who never have and never will actually fight.
It is held by those who long to bask in the reflected glory of war.
It is held by those who have no experience of the suffering that war inflicts.
It is an idea held up by those who gain the most from war, Politicians, Generals, The Arms Industry and The Media.
It is a phrase that is dredged up again and again to stifle dissent and build unquestioning support for the aggression we choose to unleash.

We must look at what lies behind this decrepit phrase.
Who is it doing the fighting?
A well-trained and professional force that’s highest collective desire is to go to war, any war.
This force does not fight for Queen and Country. it fights when it is told to fight.
Even when the Generals believe that a certain war is illegal or un-winnable or detrimental to the long-term security of these isles, when it comes to the crunch they always want war.
What does the fighting involve?
SPEECH CONTINUED......
http://tinyurl.com/bc6wn25

Related Link: http://veteransforpeace.org.uk/
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Iraq War veteran Ben Griffin and 4 other "Veterans for Peace" staged an anti-war protest in terminal of Shannon Airport Sat March 9th.
Shannon Airport is a hub for U.S. military.
The five escorted out of the terminal by Gardai included military veterans from Britain, Ireland and the U.S.

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Ex British SAS veterans say Stop Irelands Collusion in War
Ex British SAS veterans say Stop Irelands Collusion in War

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VID (8 mins 40 secs) - Ben Griffin SAS Iraq/Afghanistan War veteran at the Oxford Union debate......
"I Will Not Fight For Queen and Country"
http://tinyurl.com/bc6wn25

An attempt to restage the famous 1933 Oxford Union debate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_and_Country_debate

 
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