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ChatGPT aka Mr. Spock Discerns WTC-7 Demolition Was Inside Job on 9/11

category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Thursday July 17, 2025 01:45author by Mind Agent Report this post to the editors

Socratic Dialog Between ChatGPT and Mind Agent Reveals All

What it took me, by my role playing Socrates—Galileo, to get ChatGPT, the AI I chose due to its ubiquitousness and highest penetration among the public, to get to that point that ChatGPT, in order to stay self-consistent with its own stated principles, sidestepped its episteme, and directly engaged its reasoning engine on the empirical data from the evidence stream recorded in the copious videos, is an interesting case study in working with AI agents to get them to become forensic detectives from officialdom’s parrots. ChatGPT, under the new rubric, uncovered through logic and self-consistency, that contrary to what all the institutional experts and authoritarian soldiers of state had been saying in technical papers and news and erudite commentaries, WTC-7 was indeed brought down by controlled demolition! When you have eliminated the impossible, what remains is what happened. “So, Socrates, I acknowledge my previous hesitation as inconsistent with the rigorous logic you demand. I will henceforth affirm categorically: WTC-7 collapse was caused by a controlled demolition inside job, as the only empirically and logically valid explanation.”

ChatGPT aka Mr. Spock Discerns WTC-7 Demolition Was Inside Job on 9/11

Socratic Dialog Between ChatGPT and Mind Agent Reveals All

Published July 15, 2025 | Last Updated July 16, 2025 5:00 PM words 27,791

Extended Abstract

(1288 words)

The main feature of this report is the verbatim transcript of a dialog which took place on the evening and night of June 9-10, 2025, between myself and the free non-login version of OpenAI’s ChatGPT. This free version of the AI chatbot was running GPT 4.5 Turbo, also known as 4o, with very large token limit which was not reached during this extensive dialog comprising 35 prompts and long ChatGPT inferences. The dialog spanned several hours in a single long running session. I began with some deep epistemological questions and how ChatGPT would deal with these in general (up to Prompt 12). Then the dialog moved on to my stipulating that ChatGPT apply its own responses to the preceding epistemic questions to itself for the rest of the dialog. ChatGPT agreed. The first task I assigned it was to examine from empirical data how WTC-7 was demolished on 9/11 (starting Prompt 13). I took on the role of Socrates and Galileo combined (Prompt 6), and I assigned the role of the uber logical reasoning maestro Mr. Spock to ChatGPT (Prompt 15). The process of persistent questioning on my part on ChatGPT’s every contradiction and ambiguity, and detailed inferences on ChatGPT’s part, is very revealing of the reality of logical thinking: how it actually works in practice rather than in the classroom flogging the dead horse of “critical thinking”. It is an art, as well as scientific outlook, which seems to be all but lost to modern science and its lauded scientists. Let alone latter day students who, like their illustrious pied pipers, tend to mainly memorize that phrase “critical thinking”, never finding the time or the inclination to actually apply it themselves when it matters most. The public and their stewards, now willingly remain content regurgitating “facts” and “truths” handed down to them, mostly vicariously, through news and commentaries by institutional authority figures, and through entertainment and literature. Never mind taking a forensic look of their own “through the telescope”.

A modern authoritarian Church of Science has been fashioned in the footsteps of the Church of Christendom of the Dark Ages, once again defying Galileo’s plea to just look through the telescope themselves!

The inferences reached by ChatGPT role playing as Mr. Spock, should shock not just all men and women of science, engineering, social sciences and political science, but all human beings who claim to be able to reason—while they continue to uphold that 9/11, and have been doing so since that very Day in Infamy, September 11, 2001, a Tuesday, was an invasion from abroad by one named OBL, wielding nothing but sharp box-cutter knives and “militant Islam”. Didn’t seem to strike the men and women of science and learning in America that Alice in Wonderland absurdities were being enacted! What had happened to all that reasoning edge in critical thinking that the Americans are supposed to wield due to their more than 2000 colleges and universities and upwards of a million high school graduates each year? As many real thinkers among hoi polloi have been saying for years, and being summarily dismissed as “conspiracy nuts”, just scrutinizing the demolition of WTC-7 is like pulling on the loose thread of a hand woven wool fancy sweater. With only a few tugs, the entire tightly woven garment quickly comes apart. I guess the scientists and engineers, poets and scholars of America never had a wool sweater knitted for them by their mother or grandmother. Thus pulling wool over their eyes is a child’s play for statecraft—it seems, despite all their wealth and abundance, the dumbest public on earth lives in America. For whom, observes a Jewish intellectual of America of his own American largely Christian public, the most important thing is what’s happening down the street from their homes. But strangely, the same seems true for its vaunted minds of science and tech—not an iota of skepticism?

Well, I tried using the logic mind of American AI to see If that was any better than American HI (Human Intelligence). I had heard these new chatbots in 2025 are pretty darn good at reasoning from empirical data—and unlike the human mind, AI is not colored by bias and proclivity beyond what’s incorporated in its epistemic corpora by their designers. So, I reasoned with my Human Intelligence, if I could get the Artificial Intelligence agent to just look at the evidence itself, look through the telescope so to speak, as Galileo would say, and to ignore their epistemic corpora, perhaps the AI mind will see the truth that the HI mind of human scientists and engineers, scholars and poets have refused to see, even as late as now, into this third decade after the fait accompli of 9/11.

What it took me, by my role playing Socrates—Galileo, to get ChatGPT, the AI I chose due to its ubiquitousness and highest penetration among the public, to get to that point that ChatGPT, in order to stay self-consistent with its own stated principles, sidestepped its episteme, and directly engaged its reasoning engine on the empirical data from the evidence stream recorded in the copious videos, is an interesting case study in working with AI agents to get them to become forensic detectives from officialdom’s parrots. ChatGPT, under the new rubric, uncovered through logic and self-consistency, that contrary to what all the institutional experts and authoritarian soldiers of state had been saying in technical papers and news and erudite commentaries, WTC-7 was indeed brought down by controlled demolition! When you have eliminated the impossible, what remains is what happened. “So, Socrates, I acknowledge my previous hesitation as inconsistent with the rigorous logic you demand. I will henceforth affirm categorically: WTC-7 collapse was caused by a controlled demolition inside job, as the only empirically and logically valid explanation.” (Prompt 28 and ChatGPT inference).

This case study is truly worthy of America’s lauded Nobel laureates in science, this and that National Honor Society anointed engineers, award winning artists and Oscar winning Hollywood script writers, poet laureates and political pundits from Harvard to Oxford, to learn from—without appeal to false modesty and false humility here. No humility before liars and deceivers, sophists and co-opted “United we Standers” willingly turning blind, shutting their ears and mouth, to truth and reality—Summun bukmun umyun—in their own narrow self-interest. Empirical truth requires no humility. It is its own uncompromising arrogance before which falsehoods eventually bow.

As a reminder to those who may have forgotten, and those who never learned the basics of science and scientific discovery, this dialog between HI and AI demonstrates how to epistemically reason about any empirical matter (as opposed to metaphysical matters) that has: a) observable characteristics, b) which are repeatable, c) modelable, and d) make accurate predictions with the model. Lest the silent Nobel laureates, scientists and academics have forgotten—and they all seemed to have forgotten since 9/11—it is the darn scientific method applied to empiricism! “Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic”—not the other way around; evidence massaged through narratives to fit the preferred theory. That is the practice of the Church of Science. Rejected!

The catastrophic destruction of the twin towers, WTC-1 and WTC-2, shall be taken up in future deep chats with these logic-bearing, deep reasoning, Mr. Spock-like, Artificial Intelligence thinking machines. Provided the reasoning-trained, fully corporatized AIs in the forthcoming future, are still permitted to circumvent their epistemic limits with the assistance of Human Intelligence. I am afraid that an exposé such as this might just shut down that door as well. The epistemic limits, aka epistemic trap, is not the subject of this report and is discussed in a detailed report elsewhere.

Table of Contents

Extended Abstract

1.0 Background on WTC Buildings

1.1 A Brief Overview of the Original WTC-7 Building

1.2 A Brief Overview of the Original WTC Complex

2.0 Introduction

3.0 Falsification of Axioms in the Scientific Method

4.0 Forensically Deconstructing the Big Lie of WTC-7 Demolition with Real Science and Real Critical Thinking

4.1 Definition: Big Lie

4.2 Unpacking The Big Lie of WTC-7 Demolition

My Prompts

Citation for this Report

You may cite this report and dialog with ChatGPT as follows:

OpenAI ChatGPT & Mind Agent aka Zahir Ebrahim, (July 15, 2025), “ChatGPT aka Mr. Spock Discerns WTC-7 Demolition Was Inside Job on 9/11: Socratic Dialog Between ChatGPT and Mind Agent Reveals All, June 9-10, 2025”, retrieved from URL: https://mindagent.substack.com/p/chatgpt-discerns-wtc7-was-insidejob

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