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offsite link Fraud and mismanagement at University College Cork Thu Aug 28, 2025 18:30 | Calli Morganite
UCC has paid huge sums to a criminal professor
This story is not for republication. I bear responsibility for the things I write. I have read the guidelines and understand that I must not write anything untrue, and I won't.
This is a public interest story about a complete failure of governance and management at UCC.

offsite link Deliberate Design Flaw In ChatGPT-5 Sun Aug 17, 2025 08:04 | Mind Agent
Socratic Dialog Between ChatGPT-5 and Mind Agent Reveals Fatal and Deliberate 'Design by Construction' Flaw
This design flaw in ChatGPT-5's default epistemic mode subverts what the much touted ChatGPT-5 can do... so long as the flaw is not tickled, any usage should be fine---The epistemological question is: how would anyone in the public, includes you reading this (since no one is all knowing), in an unfamiliar domain know whether or not the flaw has been tickled when seeking information or understanding of a domain without prior knowledge of that domain???!

This analysis is a pretty unique and significant contribution to the space of empirical evaluation of LLMs that exist in AI public world... at least thus far, as far as I am aware! For what it's worth--as if anyone in the ChatGPT universe cares as they pile up on using the "PhD level scholar in your pocket".

According to GPT-5, and according to my tests, this flaw exists in all LLMs... What is revealing is the deduction GPT-5 made: Why ?design choice? starts looking like ?deliberate flaw?.

People are paying $200 a month to not just ChatGPT, but all major LLMs have similar Pro pricing! I bet they, like the normal user of free ChatGPT, stay in LLM's default mode where the flaw manifests itself. As it did in this evaluation.

offsite link AI Reach: Gemini Reasoning Question of God Sat Aug 02, 2025 20:00 | Mind Agent
Evaluating Semantic Reasoning Capability of AI Chatbot on Ontologically Deep Abstract (bias neutral) Thought
I have been evaluating AI Chatbot agents for their epistemic limits over the past two months, and have tested all major AI Agents, ChatGPT, Grok, Claude, Perplexity, and DeepSeek, for their epistemic limits and their negative impact as information gate-keepers.... Today I decided to test for how AI could be the boon for humanity in other positive areas, such as in completely abstract realms, such as metaphysical thought. Meaning, I wanted to test the LLMs for Positives beyond what most researchers benchmark these for, or have expressed in the approx. 2500 Turing tests in Humanity?s Last Exam.. And I chose as my first candidate, Google DeepMind's Gemini as I had not evaluated it before on anything.

offsite link Israeli Human Rights Group B'Tselem finally Admits It is Genocide releasing Our Genocide report Fri Aug 01, 2025 23:54 | 1 of indy
We have all known it for over 2 years that it is a genocide in Gaza
Israeli human rights group B'Tselem has finally admitted what everyone else outside Israel has known for two years is that the Israeli state is carrying out a genocide in Gaza

Western governments like the USA are complicit in it as they have been supplying the huge bombs and missiles used by Israel and dropped on innocent civilians in Gaza. One phone call from the USA regime could have ended it at any point. However many other countries are complicity with their tacit approval and neighboring Arab countries have been pretty spinless too in their support

With the release of this report titled: Our Genocide -there is a good chance this will make it okay for more people within Israel itself to speak out and do something about it despite the fact that many there are actually in support of the Gaza

offsite link China?s CITY WIDE CASH SEIZURES Begin ? ATMs Frozen, Digital Yuan FORCED Overnight Wed Jul 30, 2025 21:40 | 1 of indy
This story is unverified but it is very instructive of what will happen when cash is removed
THIS STORY IS UNVERIFIED BUT PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OR READ THE TRANSCRIPT AS IT GIVES AN VERY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT A CASHLESS SOCIETY WILL LOOK LIKE. And it ain't pretty

A single video report has come out of China claiming China's biggest cities are now cashless, not by choice, but by force. The report goes on to claim ATMs have gone dark, vaults are being emptied. And overnight (July 20 into 21), the digital yuan is the only currency allowed.

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offsite link Exposed: How Green ?Philanthropy? Writes Scripts for Ulez ?Clean Air? Activists Sun Nov 23, 2025 07:00 | Ben Pile
Ben Pile highlights the work of Charlotte Gill exposing how green 'philanthropy' gives scripts to activists pushing 'clean air' schemes like Ulez as blatant proxies for the climate agenda.
The post Exposed: How Green ‘Philanthropy’ Writes Scripts for Ulez ‘Clean Air’ Activists appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link News Round-Up Sun Nov 23, 2025 01:46 | Will Jones
A summary of the most interesting stories in the past 24 hours that challenge the prevailing orthodoxy about the ?climate emergency?, public health ?crises? and the supposed moral defects of Western civilisation.
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offsite link British TV Comedy Has Lost its Class Sat Nov 22, 2025 17:00 | Finlay McLaren
The BBC's Director of Comedy wants to "save the sitcom". But the sitcom is only endangered because most of them stopped being funny. As To the Manor Born reminds us, British comedy has lost its class, says Finlay McLaren.
The post British TV Comedy Has Lost its Class appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Is the Era of Cheap Internet Surveys Over? Sat Nov 22, 2025 15:00 | Noah Carl
Is the era of cheap internet surveys over? A new paper demonstrates that AIs can now be "trivially programmed" to answer online surveys in ways that are essentially indistinguishable from humans.
The post Is the Era of Cheap Internet Surveys Over? appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Thank Lockdowns for the Worst Budget in History Sat Nov 22, 2025 13:00 | Will Jones
We're a week away from the most painful Budget in history thanks largely to the eye-watering cost of lockdown. Yet Baroness Hallett says next time the Government must be ready to go harder and faster. This is insanity.
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Major budget day protest in Dublin?

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday November 25, 2002 14:00author by Paul Kinsella - Variousauthor email paulkinsella53 at yahoo dot comauthor address 53 Lorcan Grove, Santry, Dublin 9, Eireauthor phone 087-9748511 Report this post to the editors

Major budget day protest in Dublin?

I've heard that there's going to be a Major budget day protest in Dublin on the day of the budget this Wednesday week, December 4th in protest at the various cutbacks that have already been announced in the book of estimates and further cutbacks that will be announced on budget day itself (i.e. Cutbacks in health, housing, schools, transport and the abolition of the 1st time buyer's grant amongst others). Apparently they're going to assemble at the Central Bank, Dame Street and march to the Dail on Kildare Street. Does anybody know what time this is all starting at and who's organising it?

I've heard that there's going to be a Major budget day protest in Dublin on the day of the budget this Wednesday week, December 4th in protest at the various cutbacks that have already been announced in the book of estimates and further cutbacks that will be announced on budget day itself (i.e. Cutbacks in health, housing, schools, transport and the abolition of the 1st time buyer's grant amongst others). Apparently they're going to assemble at the Central Bank, Dame Street and march to the Dail on Kildare Street. Does anybody know what time this is all starting at and who's organising it?

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paul is someone who is dedicated to fighting back against capitalism at both a national & international level.

while some people on indy may disagree with pauls politics I doubt if anyone could challenge his committment.

i doubt if the same could be said about the anonymous fool who really should go to clown college if wishs to be humerous.

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Yes the Millies have organised some stunt with their pals in the Dail

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it starts at 1pm.

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it starts at 1pm.

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The protest will start at 1pm form the Central Bank on Dame Street.

The protest was called by the Socialist Party, Tony Gregory, Séamus Healy(Tipperary Workers and Unemployed Action Group), Finian McGrath, Mick O'Reilly.

It will have the support of many grassroots trade union and community activists. For example, this lunchtime the Campaign for Free Education (CFE) have decided to endorse the demo and will be sending a contingent

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Never Never Land (Lost Boys & Pirates Unite!)

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Wonderland (Cheshire Cats & Dormouses Unite!)

Toyland (Golliwogs & Gnomes Unite!)

Middle Earth (Orcs & Hobbits Unite!)

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THE FOLLOWING debate took place in the Dail (20/11/02), between Joe Higgins, Socialist Party TD, and the Minister for Justice, Eqaulity & Law Reform, Michael McDowell (PDs). The debate was concerned with the proposed 'Government Estimates' cuts, but in typical fashion, the Minister avoided the questions and proceeded to hurl abuse at Deputy Higgins. The Minister also shows his lack of understanding of the differences between genuine Marxism and Stalinism.

Download the audio here http://www.geocities.com/newbridge_liberation_front/joehiggins20-11-02.mp3

Mr. J. Higgins: I welcome a delegation of striking fire-fighters from Northern Ireland to the Visitor's Gallery and express my solidarity and that of Irish workers and the Socialist Party with their just struggle.

The publication of the Estimates for public expenditure reveals an utterly discredited crew of politicians ruling this State and calling themselves a Government who have lied and cheated their way back into power and then with cynical callousness kicked in the teeth those who they duped into believing them. What a cast of characters we have had thrown up in the recent days since the publication of these Estimates. The Minister for Finance and his party leader have been widely labelled as cowboys, unfairly because there is no evidence that a majority of those who honesty herd cows for a living are chancers and cheats. Then we had the parade of the mighty mice roaring from the safety of the Fianna Fáil backbenches about the abolition of the first-time house buyer's grant. We heard their roars from Cork to Swords and beyond but come 7 p.m. this evening, which of the brave mice will come into this House and bell the McCreevy cat by voting in the lobbies against these draconian measures being introduced by the Government? Clearly, they will stick with their chunk of cheese and will be exposed - I welcome this - as fraudulent champions of young workers.

What about the Progressive Democrats? We know the Tánaiste believes working class people are some form of primitive life but what about the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform? His greatest achievement in recent times has been to climb ladders for Ireland during the general election campaign. He has no time to listen to the trauma of those who will endure his cuts; he is too busy hiring aeroplanes to deport a handful of people to Nigeria. How we wish the Minister would leave the few unfortunate asylum seekers here and take the plane to Nigeria and stay there.

These cuts coming at the first hint of economic slow down in national and international capitalism signal the beginning of an onslaught on the living standards of working people and the crucial public services on which they depend. For five years this Government has handed billions to speculators, big business, corporations and the wealthy in concessions and cuts in their taxes. It did not lift a finger as the obscene profiteering and speculation in housing doubled and trebled the price of a home putting it outside the reach of working people. What an outrage now that those who the Government kicks are the victims of the speculators rather than the speculators themselves. My call to working people, trade unionists, working class communities, students, youths and to those needing homes is, let us not lie down in front of it anymore - take to the streets, mobilise in open, visible opposition in the unions and communities to a Government which is determined to solve whatever crisis lies down the road on the backs of ordinary people while protecting its rich backers.

We will force back these draconian cuts and send the Government scurrying. We will expose its Members for the frauds they are.

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): It is very entertaining to hear the incorruptible Deputy from the Socialist Party expostulating on the frauds of others. Let us remind ourselves of one thing - if the public knew the kind of society he really stands for, he would not even have his own seat. He has been peddling Marxist-Trotskyism for years dressed up as socialism. It is Communism with a pink bow tie. It is fair enough if he really believes in his demand that the workers should take to the streets and send the Government scurrying.

Mr. J. Higgins: Yes, and I will say it as well.

Mr. McDowell: He is doomed to the marginalisation that Trotskyism deserves.

Mr. J. Higgins: It is the Minister who is doomed.

Mr. McDowell: Marxism has been seen to fail the very people it pretends to protect. This is all cant about the working class. When Marxists had control of Europe they had to erect minefields and barbed wire fences to keep the workers in the paradises that turned out to be tyrannies.

Mr. J. Higgins: They were Stalinists, not Marxists.

Mr. McDowell: Whether they were Stalinist or Trotskyite the same thing applies. They are all Communists and the people are entitled to know that. If the Deputy stands up in the House to berate others for flying under false colours at elections, he should make it clear that he is a Communist. Why does he not tell his constituents that he wants to bring about Communism in Ireland?

Mr. J. Higgins: It is democratic socialism not Communism.

Mr. McDowell: No it is not. Socialism is the phrase that is frequently used to dress up Communism by people who are ashamed of what they really stand for.

Mr. J. Higgins: This is pathetic. Let us talk about the Estimates now.

Mr. McDowell: The Deputy is a fraud, if I may say so. He is a con man who has been peddling Communist politics under a false pretence for a long time. If he does not like the heat then he should get out of the kitchen. The Deputy can give it but he cannot take it. He is blustering away there pretending he is not a Communist.

Mr. J. Higgins: Let the Minister justify the cuts.

Mr. McDowell: I will yield in this debate if Deputy Higgins will stand up and say that he repudiates Communism and Marxism. He will not do it because he believes in it. That is what he stands for. I defer to nobody and particularly not to Deputy Higgins on a charge of fraudulent politics.

In the last election I stood clearly on a platform which had as its primary role the keeping of the finances of the country on a sound basis. Deputy Higgins was the first to say that I would stand for the kind of politics for which I stand. He was the first to go on platforms in his constituency and berate me and hold me up as an object of contempt because I wish to do what it takes to make this country successful.

Let us be clear about this. The Deputy is a Trotskyite and a Communist. I am not. That is the truth of the matter. I do not wish to hear Deputy Higgins going on about fraudulent politics, fraudulent labels and getting elected by fraud. If the Deputy actually told his constituents what he stands for, the kind of society he wants to create, the kind of society that people like him have created in the past, he would not even save his notional deposit.

Mr. J. Higgins: The Minister has said that three times. Let us hear about the cuts.

Mr. McDowell: I also want to deal with another contribution that was made by a Member of the technical group. It is important that it should be said, although it may not be the appropriate occasion on which to do it. I completely reject the shallow attack on the Lindsay report which was just delivered in this House. It was a well structured and careful report by a responsible and decent judge.

Mr. J. Higgins: Why did the Minister not come in and defend it when it was being debated?

Mr. McDowell: Because the Deputy and his friends so badly disrupted the debate that there was not time for me to speak.

Mr. J. Higgins: Rubbish. Talk about a fraudulent claim.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Order, please.

Mr. J. Higgins: There was loads of time.

Mr. McDowell: The Lindsay report which was referred to by Deputy Connolly is a model of clarity, concision and fairness. It is entirely faithful to the terms of reference which this House set for the tribunal. It is a sad day when politicians turn themselves into a lynch mob to turn on the Judiciary to whom they entrust serious inquiries . I completely reject the series of increasingly vindictive and thoughtless attacks on an honourable member of the Judiciary who presented to this House a careful, well balanced and proper report on a subject.

Mr. Connolly: It was not the woman's honour I attacked but the cost of the report at €23 million.

Mr. McDowell: I entirely reject and distance myself from that type of mealy mouthed lynch mob oratory to the effect that somehow she had let this House down. She most certainly did not and I will stand up for the rights of a judge who cannot defend herself in this House against ignorant criticism of the kind to which she has had to submit.

Mr. Connolly: We made the same comments two weeks ago and the Minister had the chance to say it then.

Mr. J. Higgins: The Minister is two weeks too late.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Order, please.

Mr. McDowell: I wish to deal briefly with some issues more relevant to this debate, the Estimates that are before the House. The Estimates will, in combination with the measures taken on budget day, approximate the growth in public spending to the growth in available revenue. Before the election, that is something which I said I would ensure happened. I, and my party, are clear that if revenue is available we will spend it. If it is not available we will not borrow in order to create the kind of economic mess that brought me into politics in the first place, the situation that existed in 1987 when the country's debt had doubled in five years. We were pictured on the front of The Economist magazine as the sick man of Europe and the IMF was going to come in to rescue us from the absolutely irresponsible politics that had brought us to our knees.

Unemployment stood at 250,000 and 19% of workers were without jobs. There were areas, particularly in Deputy Higgins' constituency, with 80% to 90% unemployment. There were no jobs and third generation unemployment was a fact in some houses. It is the policies of the Progressive Democrats in combination with Fianna Fáil that turned this country around and brought unemployment down to 4%.

Mr. J. Higgins: No way.

Mr. McDowell: The Deputy cannot take it.

Ms Lynch: The Minister warned us about Fianna Fáil before the election.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Please allow the Minister without interruption.

Mr. McDowell: In the course of the election, the Labour Party only wanted to raise taxes but it was afraid to say it. It suggested that it wanted to bring our tax rates up to the European average. Effectively, that meant that it wanted to double some rates of taxation and make our system of taxation the kind that has driven jobs out of central Europe. It wanted to undo all the work that had been done to make this country successful.

Ms Lynch: The Minister warned us about Fianna Fáil before the election.

Mr. McDowell: The Deputy will get her opportunity. It wanted to borrow left, right and centre to bring us back to where it really wants the country to be - in a state of economic failure - so that it can weep crocodile tears for that section of society it claims to protect. I believe social justice comes from giving people the chance to participate in the economic life of the country. I do not believe in socialist politics of human set-aside. I do not want to go back to a situation of 250,000 people out of work.

Ms Lynch: The Minister wants us all to work for a very low wage.


Related Link: http://www.geocities.com/newbridge_liberation_front/joehiggins20-11-02.mp3
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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Septet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Septet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Septet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Septet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Septet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:55pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Octet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 6:48pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:55pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:33pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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by Paul Kinsella's Evil Twin Nanotet Mon, Nov 25 2002, 1:01pm

I couldn't just ask my dumb Question once!!!

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