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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7This is a pointless piece of writing that seems to be a response to a scenario that only exists in the author's own head.
No contributor to Indymedia - opponents of the Lisbon Treaty or not - claims that Europeans would fight right next to each other on the very same battle ground in the same unit. A pan-European army would be comprised of different divisions capable of separate and independent operations and only the commanders of the different divisions would have to co-ordinate their activities. The scenario posited above where soldiers speaking different languages and using very different equipment would be serving in the same units is just so preposterous that no political organisation has suggested it.
On the other hand, increased military co-operation between the military forces of European states and the formation of EU battlegroups under the direct control of the European Union has been a reality for the past three and a half years.
Actually there is a lengthy submission in today's Irish Times on exactly this issue, and the distortions of the treaty that have been peddled by various groups. Go to the Referendum Commission's FAQ http://www.lisbontreaty2008.ie/lisbon_treaty_terms.html for a short summary of the facts. See European Defence Agency, The Solidarity Clause and Mutual Assistance
The second of these begins If the Treaty of Lisbon were ratified then the "Solidarity Clause" would become part of EU law. It provides that the EU and Member States are obliged to assist any Member State if it is the object of a terrorist attack or a natural or man-made disaster. The EU would be obliged to mobilise all the instruments at its disposal, including the military resources made available by the Member States...", but read the full text and not this one paragraph out of context.
You just proved my point:
"A pan-European army would be comprised of different divisions capable of separate and independent operations and only the commanders of the different divisions would have to co-ordinate their activities."
Like I said already the units within each of the American, Russian and Chinese armies are completely integrated with the same command structure, the same ethos and the same weapons platforms.
A Pan-European with divided commands, divided nationalities, duplication of roles, different weapons and different languages is not going to be as effective. A complete logistical nightmare.
A Pan-European army competing with the armies of the other superpowers is a complete fantasy in the minds of military imperialists or paranoid leftists.
I'm sure your delusions make sense to them.
How can the EU Army you rave about 'compete' with the US, when practically every EU country, except maybe France, is occupied to a greater or lesser extent by the US military?
Would it not make more sense to boot out the Yankee occupier from all these countries before starting to talk about an EU constitution, army or sovreignty?
Have the bosses EU not already gotten around the issue of different national and historical differences in their military throught the use of battlegroups that are to be expanded after (or despite) the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty
Where there is a will there is a way.
look up a history book.There are damn few places where The "yankee occupier" is or was in Europe.They were mostly in Germany,southern half.Now there are only somthing like 10% of the original strengthof what was thewre in Cold war times.Only other place was England and apart from the few USAF bases there like Mildenhall,they havent been there much either since 1945.
Get some facts before you show yourself up to be more ignorant by posting such shite!
look up a history book.There are damn few places where The "yankee occupier" is or was in Europe.They were mostly in Germany,southern half.Now there are only somthing like 10% of the original strengthof what was thewre in Cold war times.Only other place was England and apart from the few USAF bases there like Mildenhall,they havent been there much either since 1945.
Get some facts before you show yourself up to be more ignorant by posting such shite!